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pastrychef

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Sep 15, 2006
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Read up on your Apple history. MacOS was junk by the early 90s and Windows 95 blew it away. Hence why Steve's OS was bought to save the day. That the first action of Steve was to kill virtually every hardware product Apple in the 90s were doing should alone tell you what junk it was.

What history books would state such a subjective matter as fact?
 
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filmak

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Read up on your Apple history. MacOS was junk by the early 90s and Windows 95 blew it away. Hence why Steve's OS was bought to save the day. That the first action of Steve was to kill virtually every hardware product Apple in the 90s were doing should alone tell you what junk it was.

Thank you for your kind reply.:)
Fortunately I don't have to read any history to learn something about the 90s, this step is completely unnecessary when someone has first hand personal experience.

And I ensure you that win95 didn't blew OS 9 away. OS 9 was a lot more stable than the win 95 nightmare.
 
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dogslobber

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Thank you for your kind reply.:)
Fortunately I don't have to read any history to learn something about the 90s, this step is completely unnecessary when someone has first hand personal experience.

And I ensure you that win95 didn't blew OS 9 away. OS 9 was a lot more stable than the win 95 nightmare.

Then you'll know Microsoft won the OS war in the mid to late 90s. No need to try to revise history there, even for fervent Apple heads.
 

LIVEFRMNYC

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Windows was pure hell between 95 and XP. Win ME was the absolute worst. I should get some type of cert for becoming a troubleshoot expert while using ME. I was happier with Linux distros back then, even though you had to compile damn near everything, it was still more stable.
 

filmak

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90s Apple hardware was junk. Just look at the amount of variations of a tired and incompatible brand that was dead on its feet until Steve culled the lot.

All the Apple systems from 90s where beautifully engineered machines and there was not even a single pc to compare in design. And even then most of the time macs were a step forward in technology and reliability. Ask the artists and designers and the QuarkXpress users for more info. Also the Type1 PS fonts in Macintosh were miles better than True Type at the time.

Anyway this thread is about 10.11 system fonts, so back on topic please...
 

davvanc

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Oct 29, 2015
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OS 9… is that the system they had in the 90s?

/System/Library/Fonts, the fonts start with “SF”. System Integrity Protection must be turned off. Delete them at your own peril or use a tweak that overrides the system typeface with something else (like this one).
The Lucida-Grande-El-Capitan-1.0 app from Github mostly works fine on OS X 10.11.2, but I found 1 glitch.
When you try to open the "Save password" in the App Store System Preferences pane, it pops up a distorted dialog box with square boxes filled with question marks. After disabling Lucida-Grande-El-Capitan-1.0 and rebooting, that dialog box is displayed correctly, a "Enter your Apple ID" dialog box. So far, this is the only place I have found where the Lucida-Grande for El-Capitan system font replacement font doesn't work.
 
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