lol touche!You got me there!
I digress then, as I seem to have mis-judged your dislike of these little PC's as typical fanboy arrogance. My apologies.
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Gawd, sometimes mac geeks get so up themselves...
True. I've used macs for 20 years, seriously. I've never used a PC - at school, at work, or at home.
And it's only now that i'm staring to think that - as a brand at least - apple has attracted nerdy geeks, rather than aficionados.
I'd desperately LOVE a notebook size mac.
In our (albeit small) office, I run 3 iMacs, 2 MacBooks (so people can take work home), and we have an Airbook for presenting to clients. I love the Airbook - for presenting, but i STILL want something smaller. (That said, I was reliably informed that I could present my keynote presentations from my iPhone or iPod with an AV cable - is this true??)
So why all this resistance to a notebook sized mac? It would surely be smaller, lighter and lots more interesting than most of the 'notebooks' out there. I seriously think Apple is missing an opportunity here. WE WANT THIS Steve. Bring it on I say.
Apple was invented to lead markets and to make life easier - one area in which they're rapidly failing, I suspect, is when it comes to smaller, portable notebooks.
True. I've used macs for 20 years, seriously. I've never used a PC - at school, at work, or at home.
And it's only now that i'm staring to think that - as a brand at least - apple has attracted nerdy geeks, rather than aficionados.
I'd desperately LOVE a notebook size mac.
In our (albeit small) office, I run 3 iMacs, 2 MacBooks (so people can take work home), and we have an Airbook for presenting to clients. I love the Airbook - for presenting, but i STILL want something smaller. (That said, I was reliably informed that I could present my keynote presentations from my iPhone or iPod with an AV cable - is this true??)
So why all this resistance to a notebook sized mac? It would surely be smaller, lighter and lots more interesting than most of the 'notebooks' out there. I seriously think Apple is missing an opportunity here. WE WANT THIS Steve. Bring it on I say.
Apple was invented to lead markets and to make life easier - one area in which they're rapidly failing, I suspect, is when it comes to smaller, portable notebooks.
I think these show real promise for a netbook sized Mac. They show that OSX scales well on lower specced components and parts and that it is totally feasible to have the mac experience we love in a form factor sized like the wind.
Now what baffles me somewhat are those saying what is the point to something this size, yet they scream they want a tablet mac. I don't get what the big fascination is with tablet laptops, I have used many windows variants and I cannot see how they would be useful for the masses in current technological terms even if you factor in Apples multi touch tech.
A low cost "netbook" laptop running OS X would be great for those who need to get full internet access daily, and need that experience of a full install of OSX... I also think there could be scope for these to be given out in every school, so every child has access to a laptop, and one which doesn't cause back problems.
Now what baffles me somewhat are those saying what is the point to something this size, yet they scream they want a tablet mac. I don't get what the big fascination is with tablet laptops, I have used many windows variants and I cannot see how they would be useful for the masses in current technological terms even if you factor in Apples multi touch tech.
A low cost "netbook" laptop running OS X would be great for those who need to get full internet access daily, and need that experience of a full install of OSX... I also think there could be scope for these to be given out in every school, so every child has access to a laptop, and one which doesn't cause back problems.
That is just the light reflecting on the fingerprints. The black Wind is a pawprint magnet. You would be enjoying the full Blackbook experience with one of those.
There's still the question of support. If Apple sold OSx to anyone at retail they would have to deal with so many different configurations. Right now, the OSx has to support a limited number of CPUs, motherboards, video, ethernet, etc. Tossing just any old hardware would be a nightmare for support. That's part of Microsoft's problem.
I have an MSI Wind. Every time someone sees it, they always comment on it and want to have a go. I wanted a low cost quality notebook for surfing the 'net and picking up emails. It fits the bill perfectly.
All because it isn't made out of Aluminium, doesn't mean it's ugly. These are great little machines that offer something Apple can't - something affordable for doing day to day tasks like browsing and email. And yes, the spec of the machine is pretty amazing given the cost (1.6 GHz Atom, 1GB RAM, 10.1 LED backlit screen, 80GB HDD, built in WiFI, Bluetooth, Webcam, media card slot).
If Mr Jobs can't see this is a market to get into, I'm not sure if he's reading from the same page. Many of my friends this Christmas are purchasing these netbooks for their kids.
I've said this before, if Apple bought something out like this, I'd buy it in an instant.
All because it isn't made out of Aluminium, doesn't mean it's ugly. These are great little machines that offer something Apple can't - something affordable for doing day to day tasks like browsing and email. And yes, the spec of the machine is pretty amazing given the cost (1.6 GHz Atom, 1GB RAM, 10.1 LED backlit screen, 80GB HDD, built in WiFI, Bluetooth, Webcam, media card slot).
If Mr Jobs can't see this is a market to get into, I'm not sure if he's reading from the same page. Many of my friends this Christmas are purchasing these netbooks for their kids.
I've said this before, if Apple bought something out like this, I'd buy it in an instant.
My Asus EeePC runs Windows considerably faster than the Linux installation I was wasting time with before (Ubuntu Eee, specifically designed for the device). And unlike Linux all the hardware features work properly. Linux is the biggest problem with these netbooks, and I'd welcome OSX on such a machine.
See above. Linux was too slow and unreliable for me - much as I hate XP it transformed the machine, and OSX would transform it even further. And how do you know no-one needs iTunes? I'll be installing iTunes on mine, so I can access my music library from it.
Just because you don't need it doesn't mean no-one else does.
Lol. Yeah, I just love fiddling around in arcane text files trying to get the sound card working. Linux is the future(tm).
no it wouldn't - the 'nano' isn't wide enough to house a chicklet keyboard - the only small form-factor computer from apple while steve jobs is there will be the air
The eeePC and the Wind have an SDHC slot as well - you can add 32 GB "internal".
This is why you won't see ARM. If it doesn't run x86 OSX, it might as well be a closed Linux appliance.
Two things - one is that Windows 7 has had a lot of work to run on netbooks, I've installed it on my eeePC. Don't focus on "Vista is a dog" - before too long Windows 7 will erase that issue.
Also, note this review on Newegg:
So, it looks like Vista is helped by a $20 high speed SD card for memory expansion.
What? "wake up"? Dude, we are talking about 2 people here. Is that the basis for this logic? Pretty faulty. Obviously the mass market doesn't want those things otherwise they would offer them. It is pretty simple, marketing 101. Right now for some reason, it would cost Apple more to do these things than they would get returns on. Just because a group of people at MacRumors whines about matte screens and netbooks doesn't mean it is worth it.
Obviously you two aren't reading from the same page as you put it. He is a millionaire, you are not.
You know, lets set the record straight here. PC's like Dell's are NOT more "open" than an Apple computer. They still have a certain list of manufacturers they use and bundle the software/hardware together. They are just as proprietary as Apple computers when you get right down to it, that goes for ANY PC manufacturer save for building this stuff yourself. So, true it is PART of Microsoft's problem, but not the whole story.
Well, i still need on by 2/2.
Give me something for under $500 on the educational side and i'll be a happy camper!
I'm not putting money into a 5 year old iBook that is slowly dying - and i need to replace it with something soonish. A smaller machine, with a smaller price point to get the child thru till graduation would be great.
I don't want to go with a Hackintosh - but i've never been so tempted as i am right now (got more interested in it when i got my prop tax bill yesterday too).
Give me something for under $500 on the educational side and i'll be a happy camper!
I'm not putting money into a 5 year old iBook that is slowly dying - and i need to replace it with something soonish. A smaller machine, with a smaller price point to get the child thru till graduation would be great.
I don't want to go with a Hackintosh - but i've never been so tempted as i am right now (got more interested in it when i got my prop tax bill yesterday too).
Lets not forget portable video (Video iPods, iPhone which by the way has the best portable video experience out there)
Negative - Stupid story for front page. Wow, someone modded a third party laptop to be entirely unlike what Apple would make if they made something!
And iPhone is just a phone....
Apple is already selling products that cost way less than 100 bucks.
It all boils down to will Apple sell crappy, cheap products or not. Is $400 netbook a "crappy, cheap product"? Not necessarily. It costs more than iPod does for example, are iPods "crappy and cheap"?. It all boils down to what you compare it to.
Sure, compared to something like a MacBook or air, a $400 netbook might be "cheap" (it could be a bit more costlier than 400 bukcs, since we are talking about Apple-product here). But it's not really a similar product. Netbooks target a different market. You need to compare the price and specs to it's competitors in that market.
How do you define what is "commodity" and what is not? I mean, Apple is happy selling loads of iPod shuffles. And all iPods are cheaper than these netbooks are.
By your logic Apple should only sell Mac Pro's and Xserves, since those are the most expensive machines in their lineup. But things don't really work that way.
It would probably cost more than most other netbooks cost, sure. But it would also be better.
Netbooks are a big (not as big as regular laptops, though) and growing market. And of course people are not buying Apple-netbooks at this moment, because Apple does not offer them. Hell, few years ago you could just as well have said "people don't want a phone from Apple. If they did, Apple would offer one. Since they aren't offering one, people don't obviously want one".
Which you obviously flunked.
Last time I had to "fiddle with arcane text-files" in Linux was back in.... 2003 or so. Sure, I COULD do just that if I wanted to. But I don't, so I won't. It's not like I'm missing out on anything.
There seems to be a lot of contradictions made here...
So ppl want a 10" "Netbook" with the full OSX Experience (because the apparently the MB is overpowered for this and the MBA still too "big") yet the majority who are crying out for an Apple Netbook say they "only" want to check emails, browse the net and "take notes" where needed... Ermm, so why would you then need the complete OSX Experience???
What's the point of APple giving you access to iLife, iMovie etc etc if you're never going to use it on an underpowered "Macbook Toy"? If you need a netbook so badly, I would say just get any one of the regular (Get ready for it) windows netbooks out there now. They're cheap (which is what you want), small (10" and under) and ideal for "just" browsing, emails and note taking. It just seems like all you're really want is the above, but with an Apple logo on the back... (now where did I see one of those?)
The argument of price is completely silly too, becuase we all know Apple charges a premium for ALL of it's hardware products, so do you really think that IF Apple did release a netbook, that it would be "cheap"?
As you can probably tell, I have no need for a netbook, but that also makes it more obvious to me when statements on this subject just don't add up. In summary, my opinion is that Apple will never release a "standalone" netbook model, but will do a revision of the Macbook AIR in mid-2009 and offer it in 10" and 13" models.
You heard it hear first!
Descent post. But as for me... I would want a netbook for weekend/weeklong trips be it vacation or business:
1. ilife - so I can plug in my camera to easily extract all the pictures, maybe also whip up a quick video while I am sitting in a hotel using imovie (or imovie HD 6 if I needed something more advanced), or maybe even work on my website a little more.
2. iwork - this is already a "lite" product and would be useful for working on documents while at the hotel (how often do you need to change something on the fly).
3. OS X - so I can have the built in preview for docs/PDF's and the built in print to PDF. and all the other features of OS X.
4. Circus Ponies Notebook.
5. then the other stuff people want one for (checking emails, internet, etc).
That would pretty much cover my on-the-road needs.
I have a macbook now, but something a little smaller like a netbook size, and something a little thinner (does not have to be a thin as the air). for on the road stuff, a 80 gb hard drive 1gb memory, combo drive or drive would be fine.
I mean if Gigabyte and Kohjinsha can give us a reasonable priced netbook tablet (and note the Kohjinsha has a DVD drive), why not
.http://www.dynamism.com/#Product=gigabyte_m912 $799
http://www.dynamism.com/#Product=kohjinsha_sx $1299
Ok, now I described my perfect netbook machine. then I would not have to lug aroung my huge laptop bag plus luggage, plus one carry on. My laptop camera could then easily slide into my carry on. Or have a larger laptop bag/packpack that doubles as a carry-on.
trying to store it in the overhead bins or under the seat during takeoff/naps would be eaiser too. As it stands now, some planes are so small you have to check your carry on or give it off at the ramp to be storeed underneath and they hand it back to you when existing the plane - especially if you have a laptop bag that sometimes counts as a carry on (depends on airline and how booked the flight is).
If Apple were to release that and keep it competitively priced I would definitely buy it. I love netbooks, small and easy to carry around, and the technology is getting better very quickly.
OS X runs pretty well on the Atom processor too.
OS X runs pretty well on the Atom processor too.