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I know everyone hates Google and Chrome but the reality is that most of the web developers actually use Chrome for development tool (including myself who works in a major tech company). Making Chrome the first class citizen for websites and webapps...In other words, making Chrome the most compatible and optimized.

Google made a seriously good strategy building the best development tool.. If Firefox and Apple want more marketshare, they need to build better dev tool first.

Also I believe Edge is also based on Chromium. So that is still under Google..
 
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Easy. Uninstall it and use Firefox.
I use Safari exclusively for personal use, and Firefox for work use. I like to separate them into different browsers, and I don’t like any browser except these two. Except for how the browsers work, I don’t like that Chrome and Edge has background processes that runs every time I boot my Mac. I want as few 3rd party login items as possible. And some browsers have horrible and slow syncs, e.g. Brave
 
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Vivaldi is an excellent browser.

Yes, isn’t it terrific? Hope I don’t need to ditch it when Google’s "Manifest v3" takes effect.

I don't care for Firefox. Recent releases of Firefox don't have the same quality and ease-of-use as when it was a younger, fresher offering.
 
I literally never had issues with Chrome‘s memory usage. On the contrary, it’s usually my most efficient browser.

Deactivating tabs sounds like a bad idea, in the end you’ll get logged out of applications and don’t get notifications.
 
Okay, I have the current Firefox on my desktop computer at home. What settings do you adjust to speed up performance?
It's more to switch off all the Pocket and sponsored suggestions stuff, I don't have any performance issues with it at all, and I'm running it on an old Mac mini.
 
Am I crazy? I could've sworn there was already a change like this a couple of years ago...
 
I'm sorry, but that's just ridiculous.
your correct!
but im just typing my experience as quick and to the point as possible:

Last September after uploading and stabilizing my mom's Lenovo yoga,
I went outside and chatted with her neighbors a while
when I returned and noticed she was placing an order from a Miscosoft Edge sponsored vendor
they had an ad on their edge homepage,
which turned out to have 5 negative reviews were stating this company was horrible and they never shipped items.
lucky the order and email never got to this company.

I do remember August 2022 Miscosoft was boasting how safe and secure edge was gonna be
Nope, when my dell ups still worked, many malicious websites would slip through
this was using both AdGuard and Adblocker.

thank Buddha I don't have to deal with those liars anymore!
 
Google made a seriously good strategy building the best development tool.. If Firefox and Apple want more marketshare, they need to build better dev tool first.

Safari's share is actually fairly good (especially on mobile) considering it's only available on Apple devices. If Apple wants to increase Safari's share, a better first step may be to make it available on Android and Windows.
 
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As has been said, Google is the king of data mining as advertising is their core business. They can’t and won’t avoid it.

Yes, Firefox has tracking too but it’s not the same as being reliant on it for income. Remember, Mozilla is a 501(c)3 and needs your data far less than even Apple.

My primary choice is Safari and for those sites that don’t work with Safari (come on Apple!) I use Firefox.

Interestingly, I’m becoming a fan of Microsoft lately. Maybe I’ll try Edge. I moved my e-mail away from Go, read-your-emails, ogle last year and found Microsoft to be quite stable. Office for Mac is great too.
It’s not apple’s fault those few pages don’t work with safari. Poorly coded websites are a thing. If they just followed the web standards that webkit works with, they would work fine. But people are lazy or only use chrome to test it. Since chrome has something like 80+% of the market, they figure that’s good enough. If 99% of all the websites I go to work beautifully, why can’t that last 1%.
 
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My son only uses tabs on his machine. Someone told him that bookmarks uses more ram and storage than tabs. I can not convince him otherwise.
 
Since chrome has something like 80+% of the market, they figure that’s good enough.

By "Chrome" I assume you mean all Chromium-based browsers including Chrome, Edge, Opera and others?

Chrome itself doesn't have 80+% of the market, at least according to Statcounter. It has more like 65% of global market and 51% of U.S. market.
 
By "Chrome" I assume you mean all Chromium-based browsers including Chrome, Edge, Opera and others?

Chrome itself doesn't have 80+% of the market, at least according to Statcounter. It has more like 65% of global market and 51% of U.S. market.
Yes, sorry for the confusion. I don’t use chromium based browsers. I use safari. I find its interface superior and its operation smoother. Also, I don’t trust ANYTHING, made by Google. Chrome sucks, edge would require I use windows which sucks, and is just as bad at spying as Google. For me safari is the only viable option.
 
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Safari's share is actually fairly good (especially on mobile) considering it's only available on Apple devices. If Apple wants to increase Safari's share, a better first step may be to make it available on Android and Windows.
Can you share the source of the claim about Safari's dev tool market share?
I'm talking about development tool. Not the general consumer browser.
Im a developer in Sillicon Valley and none of the devs I know from major tech companies (Google, Doordash, Uber, Twitter, etc) use Safari for development.
 
Continuously boggles my mind that people use Chrome - when they know Google's business model is spying and mining their data.
I actually use Brave or Chromium because of that.

The original Chrome is just to watch apple tv on my lenovo ipad.
 
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I use Safari exclusively for personal use, and Firefox for work use. I like to separate them into different browsers, and I don’t like any browser except these two. Except for how the browsers work, I don’t like that Chrome and Edge has background processes that runs every time I boot my Mac. I want as few 3rd party login items as possible. And some browsers have horrible and slow syncs, e.g. Brave
I loved Safari too. I said Firefox because it's what I'm used to. I use Windows at work and at home I only use my gaming PC/iPhone so I rarely touch my Macs to use Safari. It was easily my favorite on macOS.
 
Ok but using the default search on Safari IS using Safari. If no one used Safari, Google wouldn't pay Apple nearly as much as the payment is largely based on Safari usage. I say "as much" and "largely based" because there has been some speculation that part of the payment agreement was that Apple would stay out of the search business but it hasn't been proven yet.

Google also pays Mozilla to set Google search as default but that payment is a lot less because Firefox usage is less.

Apple has had billion$ of reasons to encourage use of $afari, although a lot of that may change depending on how the DOJ case against Google goes.
Yeah Google is making money through all the traffic on chrome. That’s the important difference. Apple isn’t directly making money from users in safari. You can change the engine to DuckDuckGo
 
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