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I check the model number in setting of just arrive replacement 6s plus, it starts with M, then it is new?
 
The source is outdated as I've got an F 6s and it's brand new. I also know bunch of my friends with F serial numbers who also haven't replaced their phones.

As for the refurb so early in the production... do you people really think that if you get a white box replacement on day one, that it's a brand new phone? The service replacements (white box) this early on, tend to be unsatisfactory units from the production line. For instance, a phone gets nicked, they gut it, slip on a brand new case and it's now a service replacement model.

It is your right to exchange your phone within 14 days with a retail unit. I wouldn't have mine any other way. After 14 days is up, sure, but not before that.
 
I check the model number in setting of just arrive replacement 6s plus, it starts with M, then it is new?

I just check the model number of the used to be new ipad air 2 model number starts with M too.
 
The source is outdated as I've got an F 6s and it's brand new. I also know bunch of my friends with F serial numbers who also haven't replaced their phones.

As for the refurb so early in the production... do you people really think that if you get a white box replacement on day one, that it's a brand new phone? The service replacements (white box) this early on, tend to be unsatisfactory units from the production line. For instance, a phone gets nicked, they gut it, slip on a brand new case and it's now a service replacement model.

It is your right to exchange your phone within 14 days with a retail unit. I wouldn't have mine any other way. After 14 days is up, sure, but not before that.

I was going to post the same thing... What do people think happens to the phones that fail a QC check early in the production cycle? They just throw it in the garbage?

What is more likely is that the refurbished/remanufactured phones haven't been in some random user's sweaty little paws yet.

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The source is outdated as I've got an F 6s and it's brand new. I also know bunch of my friends with F serial numbers who also haven't replaced their phones.

As for the refurb so early in the production... do you people really think that if you get a white box replacement on day one, that it's a brand new phone? The service replacements (white box) this early on, tend to be unsatisfactory units from the production line. For instance, a phone gets nicked, they gut it, slip on a brand new case and it's now a service replacement model.

It is your right to exchange your phone within 14 days with a retail unit. I wouldn't have mine any other way. After 14 days is up, sure, but not before that.

Oh... And people aren't talking about SERIAL numbers starting with an F. They're talking MODEL numbers.

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The source is outdated as I've got an F 6s and it's brand new. I also know bunch of my friends with F serial numbers who also haven't replaced their phones.

As for the refurb so early in the production... do you people really think that if you get a white box replacement on day one, that it's a brand new phone? The service replacements (white box) this early on, tend to be unsatisfactory units from the production line. For instance, a phone gets nicked, they gut it, slip on a brand new case and it's now a service replacement model.

It is your right to exchange your phone within 14 days with a retail unit. I wouldn't have mine any other way. After 14 days is up, sure, but not before that.
Model number. Not serial number so no it's not outdated.
 
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I check the model number in setting of just arrive replacement 6s plus, it starts with M, then it is new?
Correct. That's a guaranteed new phone and has never been re opened by apple and put through a refurbishment process.
 
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Correct. That's a guaranteed new phone and has never been re opened by apple and put through a refurbishment process.

Today I received a "new" 6S, ordered from Apple on line, and delivered by UPS. Sealed retail box and looks new. Has an M model number but on activating it, it already shows over seven hours of call time for the current period and lifetime. It is a week 35 build. Another 6S I received on launch day is a week 38 build. A new phone received almost two weeks after launch built three weeks earlier than a launch day phone? Is my new M model with seven hours on it out of the box new or just new to me? What does Apple really do with the returns we all read about on line? Did I get a reworked factory reject? Both are rose gold...
 
Today I received a "new" 6S, ordered from Apple on line, and delivered by UPS. Sealed retail box and looks new. Has an M model number but on activating it, it already shows over seven hours of call time for the current period and lifetime. It is a week 35 build. Another 6S I received on launch day is a week 38 build. A new phone received almost two weeks after launch built three weeks earlier than a launch day phone? Is my new M model with seven hours on it out of the box new or just new to me? What does Apple really do with the returns we all read about on line? Did I get a reworked factory reject? Both are rose gold...

How to check call time?
 
Today I received a "new" 6S, ordered from Apple on line, and delivered by UPS. Sealed retail box and looks new. Has an M model number but on activating it, it already shows over seven hours of call time for the current period and lifetime. It is a week 35 build. Another 6S I received on launch day is a week 38 build. A new phone received almost two weeks after launch built three weeks earlier than a launch day phone? Is my new M model with seven hours on it out of the box new or just new to me? What does Apple really do with the returns we all read about on line? Did I get a reworked factory reject? Both are rose gold...
Wow. What a fascinating story. I'd be incensed to see 7 hours of lifetime call time on my "new phone". Ugh!
 
Wow. What a fascinating story. I'd be incensed to see 7 hours of lifetime call time on my "new phone". Ugh!

To make it worse this one was for the wife. Not pleased but Apple is prepared to replace it. Problem is I don't know if we will end up better off.

This site has been a gold mine of useful information and I have had good luck with Apple for years, till now. Struggling to get a sound understanding of what went astray on my purchase and wether I should return it and put an old 5 back in service, return if for an exchange, or simply keep it. It looks good and aside from needing many hard resets during setup, is now working well.
 
Lifetime is how long the phone has been on?

The actual hours and minutes of talk time.Don't know how to tell how long the phone has been turned on. Took almost two hours to get the phone setup restoring from a small backup. It kept freezing with the well documented IOS 9 issues. Once I could get into the settings to set it up the way I wanted, it already showed over seven hours of call time, I had yet to make a call.
 
The actual hours and minutes of talk time.Don't know how to tell how long the phone has been turned on. Took almost two hours to get the phone setup restoring from a small backup. It kept freezing with the well documented IOS 9 issues. Once I could get into the settings to set it up the way I wanted, it already showed over seven hours of call time, I had yet to make a call.


You restored a backup, those stats transfer I believe, and get reset when phone is wiped, too, so would always be 0 on a newly setup phone, whether phone was used or not.
 
Ive noticed a LOT of people in here are worried about replacing their iPhone because it might not be brand new.

Right now- all the iPhone 6S/6S+ will be brand new since the launch is so close. But an easy way to tell is by going to settings-----about.

If the model number begins with M - its not a "refurb" or "Remanufacture" phone.
If the model number begins with N - its a replacement or whatever Apple wants to call it.

Models with N are solely replacement products, and once a certain amount of time as passed, they are usually refurbs by apple.


I know it's 2 years old, but it needs some modifications:
  • "F": refurbished unit
  • "M": retail unit
  • "N": replacement unit
  • "P": personalized (engraved) unit
 
I got my Xs Max replaced for free (0 bucks, no warranty) yesterday and it was an N device. I opened coconut battery app and saw it was produced last year with the battery being produced a month before the device. Of course I'm going to enjoy my device, just wanted to point it out. I renewed applecare+ monthly just in case and will do for 3 months.
 
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