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Mac Rules

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Is Parallels the same as Virtual PC for Mac? I'm confused, I guess they do the same thing... Please help!

Cheers
 

yellow

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Mac Rules said:
Is Parallels the same as Virtual PC for Mac? I'm confused, I guess they do the same thing... Please help!

No.

Similar concept, NOT the same thing.

VirtualPC was a hardware emulator. Meaning it had a set specified emulated PC hardware (a Pentium3). It had no notion (nor care) of what you current hardware actually was, so there was a real speed ceiling that one hit rather quickly.

Parallels is a virtual machine technology. It uses your current hardware (what it's able to use) and emulates the rest, but "non-essential" things like your network interface card. Parallels isn't held down, speed-wise, by the inherent limitations of the VPC emulation. Parallels is WORLDS better. And will continue to grow.
 

balamw

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AWerner32 said:
is there a mac based porgram or way on a mac to burn a windows bootable dvd with all of these things on it, can you do it with toast?
I presume you could burn it in Toast, and there were instructions on burning a XOM modified disc using mkisofs at http://onmac.net. The only part that might be difficult would be slipstreaming SP2 if you have to do that.

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Mac Rules

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yellow said:
No.

Similar concept, NOT the same thing.

VirtualPC was a hardware emulator. Meaning it had a set specified emulated PC hardware (a Pentium3). It had no notion (nor care) of what you current hardware actually was, so there was a real speed ceiling that one hit rather quickly.

Parallels is a virtual machine technology. It uses your current hardware (what it's able to use) and emulates the rest, but "non-essential" things like your network interface card. Parallels isn't held down, speed-wise, by the inherent limitations of the VPC emulation. Parallels is WORLDS better. And will continue to grow.

So by this, you could use bootcamp for all your gaming needs, and then use Parallels for running programs such as Live Messenger.... Perfect. How much space does Parallels require and does it need a copy of Windows aswell or is it included?

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balamw

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Mac Rules said:
How much space does Parallels require and does it need a copy of Windows aswell or is it included?
It needs its own copy*, and will use as much space as you allocate to it, but typically a few Gigs.

* Some people have reported that if you call MS and explain what you're doing they'll give you an activation code for the virtualized copy.

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AWerner32

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Jul 26, 2006
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Burning the copy

the Win98 and drivers folders can be completely empty and the disk will still work and the computer will think it has windows 98 in the drive and will let you install the upgrade, this is helpful when your dont have enough space on a disk for those folders and xp
 

gunpowda

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AWerner32 said:
the Win98 and drivers folders can be completely empty and the disk will still work and the computer will think it has windows 98 in the drive and will let you install the upgrade, this is helpful when your dont have enough space on a disk for those folders and xp

This works, thanks!
 

chewy5000

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So, if I copy the contents of a windows XP home sp 1 CD and those of a XP Pro sp2 upgrade to my computer, then burn them to a DVD with the Home files in a folder called something like WINDOWS OLD, then refer to it when prompted during installation.

Will that work?
 

pklaus

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You can do it using the very good tool nLite ( http://www.nliteos.com/ ) which is a freeware tool to reassemble your Windows XP install CD.
Using this tool you have to temporarily copy the files from the CD to your local hard disk. There you put a copy of the folders called "WIN9X" and "DRIVERS" of the windows 98 install CD that you own. (It even works if you dont put any file in those folders but if you don't own the win98 cd this is illegal)

Using nLite I managed to Install Windows XP Professional on a MacBook. I did it converting my Windows XP Pro Upgrade CD to a Windows XP SP2 Upgrade CD with the additional Folders "WIN9X" and "DRIVERS".

It works great! Thanks a lot!
 

Toadhall

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I can't find a copy of timb's file. :(

4) Copy all of the contents of the Macintosh Drivers disc to the a new folder under C:\XPCD (e.g. C:\XPCD\Mac)

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Hi
I have this problem. Followed the thread but got stuck at this point. When creating this Win9x&XP boot disk, what mac drivers are you talking about?
thx
toby
 

balamw

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Hi
I have this problem. Followed the thread but got stuck at this point. When creating this Win9x&XP boot disk, what mac drivers are you talking about?
thx
toby

At the time I wrote that Boot Camp was still a download from the 'net, so I was referring to the drivers that were included in the download. The Boot Camp Assistant used to prompt you to burn them to disc, but many of us just copied the files over to a flash or network drive.

Now of course, they come on your Mac OS X install disc. The last time I did this, I copied the entire contents of the Boot Camp drivers over to the XPSP3+WIN98+BootCamp DVD I created.

I just installed Win7 RTM on my MBP, and wanted to extract the drivers for that too. The hard part for that is you already need a Windows box even to see the Boot Camp drivers. I don't understand why Disk Utility can't see the Windows partition on the DVD.

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