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I am considering getting an AVP but I know that M5 is rumored to be coming "some time in 2025." Personally, though, I have not heard of anyone complaining about CPU bottlenecking on the AVP. Would an M5 upgrade even be noticeable? Is it worth the wait?

Apple is pretty much forced to move from an M2 to a later model chip because the M2 goes out of production. I doubt anyone would need to upgrade. It is just that Apple runs out of M2 chips at some point.
 
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Have you bought it yet?
How about now?
….now?
Now I have! I'm gonna give it a shot. It's a hell of a bill but I'm hoping it will be as life changing as people have been saying. Picking it up tomorrow, but I have to wait for my prescription lenses before I can really try it.

And yes I did get AppleCare+. I always do.. and have never used it lol 🫣
 
Now I have! I'm gonna give it a shot. It's a hell of a bill but I'm hoping it will be as life changing as people have been saying. Picking it up tomorrow, but I have to wait for my prescription lenses before I can really try it.

And yes I did get AppleCare+. I always do.. and have never used it lol 🫣
Congratulations! 🥳
Hope you’ll reply back with your thoughts!
 
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I do disagree with "the technology simply isn't available to get the level of visual fidelity in a mass market product yet." IMO the visual fidelity of the AVP is competent now.

I guess thats semantics. It’s good, but you can still tell its augmented reality; the viewport is small (no 180 degree field of view), etc.

What the processing will be for is full artificial worlds, not just overlays onto the real world or high definition video playback which is what most of the vision pro stuff is currently.
 
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I absolutely recommend anyone who is interested in one to give it a try. There is almost no way to transpose someone else’s experience onto your own perceptions in this case. HOWEVER, if you don’t already have a goal in mind (a “use case”) and are not a developer or tech junkie, definitely wait on the next generation of hardware.

I point to exhibit iPhone (iPhone 3G was leagues up on the OG and only came into its own, hardware-wise, with the 4) and exhibit iPad (iPad 2 was a different beast entirely) and those were meant for mass market consumers out of the gate. “Right now, it’s an early-adopter product. People who want to have tomorrow’s technology today—that’s who it’s for.” Tim Cook, on the VisionPro
 
Congratulations! 🥳
Hope you’ll reply back with your thoughts!
Well it didn’t take long for me to decide I’m not keeping this, lol. It’s a very cool device with a lot of insanely cool technology, but I can’t get over the weight of it on my face making it uncomfortable to use, and the very heavy tunnel vision effect.

I intended to use this pretty much entirely for software development, but I’m finding that my regular monitor is much easier to look at and use than the virtual one in the headset.

My hope was that I could take it outside and sit at a table and put up a big virtual display, and while I can definitely do that, it doesn’t feel like I’m outside because of how much the cameras make everything around the monitor so dull and dark in comparison. It just feels like I’m looking at life through a phone camera, which I guess I am, but it doesn’t feel like “reality.”

I’m sure all of this will get better in time so I’m looking forward to seeing V2 when it comes out. For now though, with how much this costs, I can’t justify it. I know myself well enough to say this would just sit on a shelf 99% of the time, like my Quest 2 does.
 
If the AVP already has such a powerful SOC, I wonder why we still need a Mac to enable the virtual display.
It should be able to launch a Mac virtual instance from within VisionOS, no?
That would be the killer feature. The AVP is lighter than a MacBook, almost half the weight. It's a mobile workstation! A lot of people would spring $3500 for this feature alone. Me included.
 
I remember the jump from the first iPad to iPad 2. It has huge. I hope Apple does the same with the second version of Apple Vision Pro.
 
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I’m no expert, but I haven’t read anything about an upcoming Pro. I’m still in awe every time I use it. Just a couple of days ago I found a new game (Gears and Goo) that’s become a bit addictive. Yes you could do it on an iPad but seeing this huge game map in front of me in 3D is such a visual treat.

In the words of Marge Simpson, your purchase will “help the economy “ ☺️
Gears and goo is wild!! The first game that I found was really addictive and brought sort of a fully fledged „productive“ experience to the device! As in it’s really complex yet you can use it without any controllers or keyboard etc and get „a lot done“ even if it’s just gaming!
 
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Absolutely accurate. However the AVP's current limitations revolve around neither speed/ray tracing/CPU nor display quality. The AVP's current limitations are visionOS competence. Much like with iOS, improving the OS is the bottleneck.
The latest 2.3 betas fixed everything that I needed. Namely, the MBP integration finally works decently. My only real remaining complaint is that if I take it off and put it back on, I have to go back through the whole thing of reconnecting to the MBP, when that should be seamless. Also, I'd love to not have to pull my phone out of my pocket when something happens on my phone, and when I do pull it out, I'd like face-id to understand that the VP is on my head and let me in!

Well it didn’t take long for me to decide I’m not keeping this, lol. [..]

I intended to use this pretty much entirely for software development, but I’m finding that my regular monitor is much easier to look at and use than the virtual one in the headset.

My hope was that I could take it outside and sit at a table and put up a big virtual display, and while I can definitely do that, it doesn’t feel like I’m outside because of how much the cameras make everything around the monitor so dull and dark in comparison. It just feels like I’m looking at life through a phone camera, which I guess I am, but it doesn’t feel like “reality.”
Yeah, I expected you to not keep it. For MOST people, it's a device looking for a problem to solve.

I use mine on and off, and right now is an "on" period. Probably 60+ hours in the last week. Maybe more. Mostly coding. I've taken it on RV trips, and other travel when I need a productive setup. Now that MBP integration is finally working well (2.3), I have no real reservations keeping/using this thing.

But for most people, it's just too expensive and limited in what it solves.
 
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The latest 2.3 betas fixed everything that I needed. Namely, the MBP integration finally works decently. My only real remaining complaint is that if I take it off and put it back on, I have to go back through the whole thing of reconnecting to the MBP, when that should be seamless. Also, I'd love to not have to pull my phone out of my pocket when something happens on my phone, and when I do pull it out, I'd like face-id to understand that the VP is on my head and let me in!


Yeah, I expected you to not keep it. For MOST people, it's a device looking for a problem to solve.

I use mine on and off, and right now is an "on" period. Probably 60+ hours in the last week. Maybe more. Mostly coding. I've taken it on RV trips, and other travel when I need a productive setup. Now that MBP integration is finally working well (2.3), I have no real reservations keeping/using this thing.

But for most people, it's just too expensive and limited in what it solves.
This is getting very close indeed for my needs/wants. I have a new Mac purchase on the docket for this year and a monitor or two, so VisionPro will have to wait but I can see it being a 2026 or 2027 purchase for myself.
 
it's a device looking for a problem to solve.

I would argue that is a rather limited perspective. In my case the VP, although it does solve some problems, is primarily a tool to explore and expand my horizons.
 
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