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Aatos.1

macrumors 6502
Dec 31, 2010
433
0
This laptop, like other Mac laptops still retains a wide bezel from the past. For all the chest pounding & bragging Jobs does, Apple rarely introduces something truly new. They could easily reduce bezel width to thin, give us a 16:10 aspect ratio display. That would give it a very modern look while increasing the usable display size. The MBP line would also benefit from a change like this.
 

animatedude

macrumors 65816
Feb 27, 2010
1,143
88
i'm sure i'm alone in this but the reason i didnt buy the new Air is because they omitted the IRS sensor which i don't think will take much space right?
 

Roessnakhan

macrumors 68040
Sep 16, 2007
3,518
510
ABQ
Don't have much need for a backlit keyboard - but obviously a demand is there so it'd be nice to have that included. As for my personal wants: SD card slot on the 11" would be nice.
 

KPOM

macrumors P6
Oct 23, 2010
18,311
8,325
I'd have added a 256GB SSD option. If it were available, I might have gone with the 11" instead of the 13".
 

iDave

macrumors 65816
Aug 14, 2003
1,029
300
Titanium and early aluminum PowerBooks had narrow bezels. I don't get it. What happened? Put a 12.5" screen in what is the current 11.6" model and it'd be awesome.
 

KPOM

macrumors P6
Oct 23, 2010
18,311
8,325
Titanium and early aluminum PowerBooks had narrow bezels. I don't get it. What happened? Put a 12.5" screen in what is the current 11.6" model and it'd be awesome.

It might have something to do with how thin the screens are on the new models. The Powerbook screens were almost as thick as the 11" MacBook Air in its entirety.
 

iRun26.2

macrumors 68020
Aug 15, 2010
2,123
344
It might have something to do with how thin the screens are on the new models. The Powerbook screens were almost as thick as the 11" MacBook Air in its entirety.

I agree. From a mechanical strength point of view, the extra bezel might be necessary to strengthen the very thin display. I don't think Apple would release a notebook that would allow the screen to be easily twisted / warped. It is very sturdy yet light.
 

63dot

macrumors 603
Jun 12, 2006
5,269
339
norcal
I like how the 11" inch seems to have all the right things in it, and is a step beyond the netbooks because MBA 11" has a full version of OS X.

To make this already great computer better would be to reduce the price and perhaps lure people on the fence with that and mid-high end PC ultraportables from Sony or Lenovo or other major makers which can be in the $700 dollar range. I saw a pretty decently configured Sony for $999 in a very small form factor but it offered more in terms of RAM, HDD space, ports, and processing power. It was slightly heavier but still an ultraportable laptop.

I think Apple would see a pretty big jump in sales if they could offer the MBA 11" with a price of something in the neighborhood of $929 or so, and with whatever Sandy Bridge processor would reasonably fit into it in that price range.

This recession has affected everybody, even the traditionally deep pocketed, hardcore Mac user who is willing to pay a third to a half more to get a Mac. To stay competitive, have an idea what the public is putting at the top of their list, whether it's quality and speed, or more of something that is still good but is affordable.

Apple Inc. is now a big enough company to reach into the moderate price range and compete head to head against the Sonys and Lenovos of the computer world in that very competitive arena.
 

iRun26.2

macrumors 68020
Aug 15, 2010
2,123
344
I like how the 11" inch seems to have all the right things in it, and is a step beyond the netbooks because MBA 11" has a full version of OS X.

To make this already great computer better would be to reduce the price and perhaps lure people on the fence with that and mid-high end PC ultraportables from Sony or Lenovo or other major makers which can be in the $700 dollar range. I saw a pretty decently configured Sony for $999 in a very small form factor but it offered more in terms of RAM, HDD space, ports, and processing power. It was slightly heavier but still an ultraportable laptop.
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Apple has already drastically reduced the price of the MBA. Before you had to pay a lot more for a MBA with a SSD. $999 for a MBA would have been shocking just a few year's ago.
 

63dot

macrumors 603
Jun 12, 2006
5,269
339
norcal
Apple has already drastically reduced the price of the MBA. Before you had to pay a lot more for a MBA with a SSD. $999 for a MBA would have been shocking just a few year's ago.

It's not a few years ago, and we are now in the recession in many markets (even if it's on the recovery upswing).
 

thelookingglass

macrumors 68020
Apr 27, 2005
2,203
682
Give this thing battery life like the iPad and I have no complaints whatsoever. Performance is more than enough for me. Very snappy machine, great screen, great keyboard. It's just the battery life that still makes me feel like I need to be tethered to a power cord all of the time.
 

Scottsdale

Suspended
Sep 19, 2008
4,473
283
U.S.A.
As far as I can tell, they needed the width a 16:9 aspect provides to accommodate a full-sized keyboard.

Actually, the "16" refers to the width and 10 or 9 the height. Therefore, a 16:10 would be the same width but would be one unit taller. This would eliminate the thicker bezel widths on top and bottom than on the sides. My problem with the design is the look. It also sucks to lose space just to be filled by bezel.
 

Mr. Savage

macrumors regular
Jun 11, 2010
248
0
Toronto
Titanium and early aluminum PowerBooks had narrow bezels. I don't get it. What happened? Put a 12.5" screen in what is the current 11.6" model and it'd be awesome.

Apparently what happened is that the 11.6 inch screens were/are the only widely available "off the shelf" screens and in order to keep costs in line they had to go with them (as opposed to sourcing some special proprietary screens with a more ideal size which would've driven up Apple's costs).

Thus, in order to accommodate a full-size keyboard and hit the $999 price point we end up with an 11.6 inch screen with a larger than normal bezel—there is no usable screen real estate hidden behind the bezel, it is mostly all bezel.
 

appleguy123

macrumors 604
Apr 1, 2009
6,867
2,555
15 minutes in the future
I really don't understand the 16:9 display on it. First, it requires an odd bezel; it just looks wrong in terms of the bezel widths on top/bottom and sides. Second, I think this should be the 13" MBA. The MBA they call the13" should be a 15". What in the hell is wrong with Apple when it comes to these ridiculous bezels. An otherwise beautiful laptop could look stunning and make great use of space, instead of just wasting that bezel space that could easily fit a much bigger display. I see a thin bead of aluminum that makes a great edge to lift the display and would fit the otherwise greatness of the design.

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I think that the bezels are there so that the lid can be beveled at an angle that Mr. Ive likes. I doubt that the displays are as thin as the thinnest point of the lid.
 

n1tut

macrumors regular
I have not seen anybody mention this alternative yet. I love my 11.6" MBA, I have accepted the bezel size, but I also would like to see it thinner. Assuming that Apple had to use this standard screen size, then why not make the notebook smaller which would make the bezel thinner, and the Air smaller and lighter at the same time, which are the most important aspects to me. Lying in bed sending this at the moment.

I realise that the keys may have to be slightly smaller, but we are only talking about a reduction of around an inch in the width, and again that would not bother me. Not likely to happen, but then we are discussing what we would like to see, and it would be interesting to speak to an Apple designer to see if it was actually possible.

tut
 

Funkymonk

macrumors 6502a
Jan 7, 2011
773
0
Why not ask for the price to be $0.99? And have them include a bonus magic unicorn in the box!

That would be awesome! Can I fly around in the unicorn too? Maybe I can use the unicorn to hunt down and impale douchebags I meet on the internet! :cool:
 

Lord Appleseed

macrumors 6502a
Nov 7, 2010
682
37
Apple Manor
That would be awesome! Can I fly around in the unicorn too? Maybe I can use the unicorn to hunt down and impale douchebags I meet on the internet! :cool:

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I wouldn't ever bet on a pricedrop below 1000$/€
 
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