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Invincibilizer

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Aug 18, 2011
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Have you gone mad? :confused:

Obviously the battery life of the HTC One X will be complete crap :rolleyes:

A mere 1800mAh to try and power Android, LTE, a 4.7 inch ips screen, and quad core will be laughably bad :p

The ONLY advantage that iOS has is the Appstore....

Android has caught up in iOS with ICS and camera sensors greatly out perform iPhone4S, not to mention 720p, qHD, Super AMOLED displays are just blowing iPhone screens out of the water.
 

matttye

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Comparing a current gen phone with one that hasn't even been released yet. Because that always brings the best comparisons.

If you're trying to decide between the two then it's the only comparison that makes sense.

Not sure what you're getting at here. :confused:
 

cynics

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Jan 8, 2012
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The latest iOS from Apple will run on an iPhone (or even an iPod Touch) that's nearly 3 years old.

How many Android phones can run ICS?


Both were updated in October.


While and Android phone will continue to work after something new is released, it likely won't be upgraded with new features, abilities, OS as they become available... unlike the iPhone. So no, it's not nearly the same as Apple goes.

Unlike iOS 5, ICS is a significant update that requires more hardware. I'd compare iOS updates to windows service pack updates. While ICSis like going to a new version XP to win 7 or something.

Old android phones still get updates within their current operating system. For example the OG droid released in oct 2009 got a gingerbread update I believe in nov 2011. There's really no reason to keep updating it, it works.

Unlike iOS google won't force ics on older devices cause you'll get the even worse slow downs that 3GS owners report going from iOS 4 to iOS 5.
 

SporkLover

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Nov 8, 2011
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That's what I was getting at. HTC, Motorola, Samsung, etc. All release 5 different variations of the same phone that by the time you get one version, the upgraded version is being released. Sensation, sensation xl, skyrocket, skyrocket hd, razor, razr maxx, etc...

I know what you meant. As I said though, HTC is focusing it on the HTC one brand this year. Three variants of the One-X; LTE, non-LTE, and one with a slower processor.
 

mbell1975

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Mar 17, 2012
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The ONLY advantage that iOS has is the Appstore....

False. Other advantages the iPhone has is the ability to share photos, music and apps instantly with your IMac, MacBook and iPad. The ability to sync with your apple tv so you can watch your photos and videos on your tv wirelessly. Siri is far more advanced and useful than any garbage Android assustant app I have used. OS updates are available to every user on the same day! Even if you have an iPhone that's a few years older, that's huge right there. Working with iTunes is far easier with an iPhone. Iphone battery life is a ton better than any Android phone without having to baby it and close out apps after use. Plenty of advantages over Android.
 

DakotaGuy

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Jan 14, 2002
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False. Other advantages the iPhone has is the ability to share photos, music and apps instantly with your IMac, MacBook and iPad. The ability to sync with your apple tv so you can watch your photos and videos on your tv wirelessly. Siri is far more advanced and useful than any garbage Android assustant app I have used. OS updates are available to every user on the same day! Even if you have an iPhone that's a few years older, that's huge right there. Working with iTunes is far easier with an iPhone. Iphone battery life is a ton better than any Android phone without having to baby it and close out apps after use. Plenty of advantages over Android.

The ability to share photos, music and apps instantly with your Mac isn't an advantage anymore. I have MotoCast on my phone and everything will sync perfectly with my Mac. MotoCast is a simple solution that works great for music, videos, pictures and documents. If I need to sync apps from my Mac I can just log into the online based Google Play store.

Second battery life is not a ton better on the iPhone compared to every Android phone. I'd put my RAZR MAXX up against any iPhone for battery life and I'd even leave it running on 4G LTE the entire time. The best part of it... the MAXX is still thinner then the iPhone while packing over twice the battery power.

Last if on Verizon and you have 4G LTE in your area which more and more people do everyday there is simply no comparison. The iPhone 4S for Verizon is still using old outdated EVDO only technology. It's slow and you can't talk and surf at the same time.

The iPhone is a good device, but there are plenty of devices that offer better features and technology. Use what you feel most comfortable with, but don't make statements like the iPhone has a ton better battery life then every other Android phone or that it is impossible to sync a Mac with an Android phone. Both statements are not true.
 

mbell1975

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Mar 17, 2012
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The ability to share photos, music and apps instantly with your Mac isn't an advantage anymore. I have MotoCast on my phone and everything will sync perfectly with my Mac. MotoCast is a simple solution that works great for music, videos, pictures and documents. If I need to sync apps from my Mac I can just log into the online based Google Play store.

Second battery life is not a ton better on the iPhone compared to every Android phone. I'd put my RAZR MAXX up against any iPhone for battery life and I'd even leave it running on 4G LTE the entire time. The best part of it... the MAXX is still thinner then the iPhone while packing over twice the battery power.

Last if on Verizon and you have 4G LTE in your area which more and more people do everyday there is simply no comparison. The iPhone 4S for Verizon is still using old outdated EVDO only technology. It's slow and you can't talk and surf at the same time.

The iPhone is a good device, but there are plenty of devices that offer better features and technology. Use what you feel most comfortable with, but don't make statements like the iPhone has a ton better battery life then every other Android phone or that it is impossible to sync a Mac with an Android phone. Both statements are not true.

How is ICS on your Maxx? You know, the great new Android OS that came out 5 months ago. Oh, thats right, your phone doesn't have it yet. How do you like having a brand new phone running a year and a half old OS? :rolleyes:
 

DakotaGuy

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How is ICS on your Maxx? You know, the great new Android OS that came out 5 months ago. Oh, thats right, your phone doesn't have it yet. How do you like having a brand new phone running a year and a half old OS? :rolleyes:

Well it's expected to start rolling out in a few days so I'm not that concerned...

http://www.geeksailor.com/motorola-droid-razr-maxx-android-4-0-3-ics/

Considering it will be one of the first phones other then the Galaxy Nexus running it I'd say they are doing just fine.

I'd rather deal with older software for a few months then deal with 6 year old EVDO Rev. A network technology for an entire contract.
 
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aztooh

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Jul 5, 2011
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How is ICS on your Maxx? You know, the great new Android OS that came out 5 months ago. Oh, thats right, your phone doesn't have it yet. How do you like having a brand new phone running a year and a half old OS? :rolleyes:

As someone already mentioned, ICS is a significant upgrade and not every piece of hardware made before ICS will be able to run it.

And btw, how different is 5.1 from whatever the latest version of iOS 1.5 years ago? Other than camera shortcut from the lockscreen and the notification center...I'm thinking it's nearly identical....and those are things Android was already able to do. Oh, and iMessage...which is also just a ripoff of 3rd party apps that were already available.
 

blairh

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Dec 11, 2007
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I can't make a decision about my next phone until I see what Apple has in store this fall. I'll probably just get the next 'new' iPhone.
 

aztooh

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Jul 5, 2011
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The latest iOS from Apple will run on an iPhone (or even an iPod Touch) that's nearly 3 years old.

How many Android phones can run ICS?


Both were updated in October.


While and Android phone will continue to work after something new is released, it likely won't be upgraded with new features, abilities, OS as they become available... unlike the iPhone. So no, it's not nearly the same as Apple goes.

Old iPhones don't get all the features that comes with new OS updates...nice try though.

As someone mentioned after you posted this, ICS is quite a significant upgrade. I don't expect every piece of old hardware to be able to run it. And of course there are a lot of Android powered devices that don't get upgrades...a lot of low-end hardware (i.e. cheap, budget friendly phones)...I don't expect them to get upgrades.

I'd be willing to bet that the high end phones get the updates. With ICS being an exception...at the very least taking longer than normal to get the updates.

I do think Android would benefit if manufacturers would cut down on the amount of handsets they made. But if you're getting a high end device, you're getting nice hardware and will be getting updates as long as the guts can handle it.

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Fixed that for you.

You realize the development of phones and the guts for a phone are done well in advance of the release of the phone? You can't possibly be that dense. Actually, from what I've seen on this forum, I shouldn't count it out.
 

mbell1975

macrumors 6502a
Mar 17, 2012
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As someone already mentioned, ICS is a significant upgrade and not every piece of hardware made before ICS will be able to run it.

And btw, how different is 5.1 from whatever the latest version of iOS 1.5 years ago? Other than camera shortcut from the lockscreen and the notification center...I'm thinking it's nearly identical....and those are things Android was already able to do. Oh, and iMessage...which is also just a ripoff of 3rd party apps that were already available.

What are you doing on a Mac forum in an iPhone section? All i have seen from you is trash talking about iOS and the iPhone. Go troll somewhere else or go to an android forum
 

cyks

macrumors 68020
Jul 24, 2002
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You realize the development of phones and the guts for a phone are done well in advance of the release of the phone? You can't possibly be that dense. Actually, from what I've seen on this forum, I shouldn't count it out.

Just as, I'm sure, you realize that the development of an operating system is also done well in advance of it's release.
 

Invincibilizer

macrumors 6502a
Aug 18, 2011
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False. Other advantages the iPhone has is the ability to share photos, music and apps instantly with your IMac, MacBook and iPad. The ability to sync with your apple tv so you can watch your photos and videos on your tv wirelessly. Siri is far more advanced and useful than any garbage Android assustant app I have used. OS updates are available to every user on the same day! Even if you have an iPhone that's a few years older, that's huge right there. Working with iTunes is far easier with an iPhone. Iphone battery life is a ton better than any Android phone without having to baby it and close out apps after use. Plenty of advantages over Android.

85% of the population uses Windows


Myself included, I'm using Windows 7. We couldn't care less about syncing between devices. iTunes is a pita, drag and dropping music is by far the better method.
Siri, I have a couple of friends who have the iPhone4S and they find Siri pointless, in fact the only time they used it was to see how it was and it was left in the dust afterwards.

Fact is iOS5 is not that much different from iOS2, while ICS is contemporary based on hardware, iOS users are stuck with a poor one size fits all bland OS.
 

mbell1975

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Mar 17, 2012
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85% of the population uses Windows


Myself included, I'm using Windows 7. We couldn't care less about syncing between devices. iTunes is a pita, drag and dropping music is by far the better method.
Siri, I have a couple of friends who have the iPhone4S and they find Siri pointless, in fact the only time they used it was to see how it was and it was left in the dust afterwards.

Fact is iOS5 is not that much different from iOS2, while ICS is contemporary based on hardware, iOS users are stuck with a poor one size fits all bland OS.

So if you hate Macs, iTunes, iPhones and iOS what are you doing on a Mac forum in a section for the iPhone? You are simply here to troll I don't know how you people are not banned yet
 

aztooh

macrumors 6502a
Jul 5, 2011
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Just as, I'm sure, you realize that the development of an operating system is also done well in advance of it's release.

And that's relevant how? I'm sure you're well aware that Google develops Android and many manufacturers put together the phones that run Android. Kind of hard for say, Motorola, to develop a device that runs ICS at the same time ICS is in development stages at Google.
 

Invincibilizer

macrumors 6502a
Aug 18, 2011
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So if you hate Macs, iTunes, iPhones and iOS what are you doing on a Mac forum in a section for the iPhone? You are simply here to troll I don't know how you people are not banned yet

Jumping to conclusions? Since when do I "hate" iPhones?

Windows 7 and Android Phones are clearly superior than Mac and iPhones but that doesn't make me hate the products that go up against them.

I have an iPod touch, last time I checked, it required iTunes and its very comparable to the iPhone.
 

aztooh

macrumors 6502a
Jul 5, 2011
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What are you doing on a Mac forum in an iPhone section? All i have seen from you is trash talking about iOS and the iPhone. Go troll somewhere else or go to an android forum

Because I'm an iPhone user. And, just a couple of times, I found useful information here.

Can you show me where I "trash talk" iOS and the iPhone? I certainly have pointed out areas where I've had problems. My posts of "trash talking" would be only in reply to the masses here that think the iPhone and iOS is void of problems. And the ignorant posts about other topics, where it's obvious users either haven't used devices they are talking about, or just plain trash talking themselves.

Having the 4S, I obviously think it's the best for me at the moment (well, WAS, back in October when I got it). But, like I said, I'm not blind to the fact that it's not perfect. I'm a fan of facts, not hyperbole and flat out lies.

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Jumping to conclusions? Since when do I "hate" iPhones?

Windows 7 and Android Phones are clearly superior than Mac and iPhones but that doesn't make me hate the products that go up against them.

I have an iPod touch, last time I checked, it required iTunes and its very comparable to the iPhone.

Not thinking that the iPhone and iOS is perfect = hate.

The next part of your comment is purely subjective though. Superiority of one over the other lies in the needs and wants of the user.
 

cyks

macrumors 68020
Jul 24, 2002
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And that's relevant how? I'm sure you're well aware that Google develops Android and many manufacturers put together the phones that run Android. Kind of hard for say, Motorola, to develop a device that runs ICS at the same time ICS is in development stages at Google.

So, that you don't think Android phone manufacturers aren't privy to future releases and have to wait until the OS ships to see it? ...especially with Motorola Mobile, a company Google is in the process of buying.
 

aztooh

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Jul 5, 2011
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So, that you don't think Android phone manufacturers aren't privy to future releases and have to wait until the OS ships to see it? ...especially with Motorola Mobile, a company Google is in the process of buying.

Of course they're privy to an OS revamp...I mean, the public knew about it, right? But what does that have to do with anything? If ICS wasn't fully built when they started planning the phone, it's not going to ship with it.

And yeah, that's the biggest advantage the iPhone has over android powered devices; the hardware is developed WITH the software. That's why I said in an earlier post in this thread, the manufacturers should cut back on devices made. Still, Android isn't awful like some make it out to be, and iOS isn't perfect either.
 

surjavarman

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Nov 24, 2007
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I actually completely agree what was said about the iphone.

I have an iphone4 myself and while it does work great, its just boring after using ios for 4 years now. There is nothing exciting about it. But its mostly the hardware itself that sucks. iphone is still stuck on 3.5" inch? come on. there are already phones out with 720p 4.7" screens.

And itunes has always been a pita since 2003 or something. Even on OS X. It just feels slow and sluggish. I don't know what it is but dragging and dropping music files in explorer or finders happens instantly but everything you do in itunes always involves some kind of lag.

its easily one of the worst apps I have ever used. Although it actually is my main audio player.
 
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