Huawei P30 / P30 Pro

[stylinexpat]

I can't comment on the Mate 20 Pro but I can say that I have been very happy with my P30 Pro. Not much it can't really do.

 

[ramram55]

I have Mate 20 Pro, Chinese version it was updated 2 months ago. The Huawei Central site shows March update to Emui 10 for your model.

 

[magicman32]

I have Mate 20 Pro, Chinese version it was updated 2 months ago. The Huawei Central site shows March update to Emui 10 for your model.

‘I have the LYA-L29 model (international version I think?). Yeah I know 10 isn’t in wide release yet but I was wondering why I never got 9.1 which was released 6 months ago. Kinda killing the experience now since my phone is not getting these upgrades. Even with the issues with this company ij the US I thought software updates would still get to me.

 

[ramram55]

I understand your frustration when politics mix in. The best thing is to wait a bit, the worst case scenario is to sell it. I did own mate 9 last year, never got to 9 from 8. Huawei in my opinion is not interested with N America customers. Switching to Chinese version, put in the Google Play is easy. That is all I can say.

 

[stylinexpat]

Huawei P30 Pro struggles with images of Black and transparent items taken behind glass where the iPhone 8 Plus easily beats the P30 Pro in this type of picture taking. As you can see the image being taken varies for which smartphone takes the better picture

These 2 with my iPhone 8 Plus




This with the P30 Pro

 

[Tsepz]

Busy enjoying my P30 Pro while my insurance sorts out my iPhone XS Max replacement. I am once again reminded how incredibly functional Android is but also how much poorer apps are on it noticing little things that are off in apps like Instagram.

Anyway still loving the hardware of this beast and Android 10 with EMUI10 continues to be super smooth and efficient, battery life is just stupidly good.

Good to see more phones coming with Periscope cameras, I still greatly appreciate the Zoom on this thing, every time I pick up my P30 Pro I just want to photograph lol.

I've given some thought to getting a S20 Ultra but it seems it's actually not that much better than the P30 Pro outside of Display which is a great testiment to what Huawei did here with the P30 Pro, so I'll probably just get another iPhone

 

[Stevie jobz 2.0]

Specs are leaked and I also found a pic of a new orange color. The 4,200 MaH battery on the Pro is going to be great.

https://hothardware.com/news/huawei-p30-series-powerhouse-phone-images-and-specs-fully-leaked

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This smartphone allows you to save your contacts along with other info to your smartphone instead of forcing you like the Google Pixel to save all your contacts and other personal info to the Google Server.

A) loads do that already... and b) why would you want to risk losing your phone and all your contacts?, the saving the contacts to your gmail account was a game changer. Gone were the little black book with loads of phone numbers in....

 

[stylinexpat]

A) loads do that already... and b) why would you want to risk losing your phone and all your contacts?, the saving the contacts to your gmail account was a game changer. Gone were the little black book with loads of phone numbers in....

Because not everyone wants to save all their personal info on a public cloud sever It's not like no one has store space on their computers these days or external storage devices are outrageously expensive.

 

[Stevie jobz 2.0]

Because not everyone wants to save all their personal info on a public cloud sever It's not like no one has store space on their computers these days or external storage devices are outrageously expensive.

Public cloud server?, so you are saying your gmail account is accessible free and easy to the general public? Really?

Plus, if barry the pizza guys phone number really ends up in the public domain? Big wow!!!

 

[stylinexpat]

Public cloud server?, so you are saying your gmail account is accessible free and easy to the general public? Really?

Plus, if barry the pizza guys phone number really ends up in the public domain? Big wow!!!

If it is your own then it is private but if it is not your own then it is not private and if it can be shared with any others then it is not private. If you like them and trust them that is fine. I prefer options and don't like them enforced upon me like in China and other undemocratic countries.

 

[jamezr]

Public cloud server?, so you are saying your gmail account is accessible free and easy to the general public? Really?

Plus, if barry the pizza guys phone number really ends up in the public domain? Big wow!!!

Buuuut...if you're using a Huawei phone...it is just like having everything in the public realm. The Chinese government is very thankful

 

[stylinexpat]

If I am not mistaken Huawei smartphones allow users to have option to save to Contacts or Gmail while Google smartphones don't give you that option and force you to save to Gmail Cloud Server. Apple also gives users the same option as Huawei where they can save contacts to device or to iCloud server. If you are in the US then it uses US cloud server but if you are in China then it uses China's cloud server.

 

[Stevie jobz 2.0]

Buuuut...if you're using a Huawei phone...it is just like having everything in the public realm. The Chinese government is very thankful

The government is thankful for having your best mate Dave's phone number? Lol, trust me, they already have it!!!!! What they gonna do with it that's so lethal? I await any serious replies....

 

[jamezr]

The government is thankful for having your best mate Dave's phone number? Lol, trust me, they already have it!!!!! What they gonna do with it that's so lethal? I await any serious replies....

Not with the number...just all data from your phone back to the Chinese government.

 

[ian87w]

If I am not mistaken Huawei smartphones allow users to have option to save to Contacts or Gmail while Google smartphones don't give you that option and force you to save to Gmail Cloud Server. Apple also gives users the same option as Huawei where they can save contacts to device or to iCloud server. If you are in the US then it uses US cloud server but if you are in China then it uses China's cloud server.

I believe any Android phones allow usage without signing to a Google account and save everything locally. Not sure about the Pixel phones though, but on all Android phones I have used (Samsung, Motorola, Xiaomi, etc), I can save contacts locally.

 

[stylinexpat]

I believe any Android phones allow usage without signing to a Google account and save everything locally. Not sure about the Pixel phones though, but on all Android phones I have used (Samsung, Motorola, Xiaomi, etc), I can save contacts locally.

Except for Google’s Pixel Smartphones 😉
Which are now struggling to be sold

 

[ian87w]

Except for Google’s Pixel Smartphones 😉
Which are now struggling to be sold

Apparently, saw some Reddit comments about it...
Ah well, I guess that's the "privilege" of having a Pixel phone?

 

[Stevie jobz 2.0]

Not with the number...just all data from your phone back to the Chinese government.

So are you suggesting they have free and easy access to all the banking apps? Doesnt say much for the triple loggin in security then? Are they also stored on the public cloud servers?
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If I am not mistaken Huawei smartphones allow users to have option to save to Contacts or Gmail while Google smartphones don't give you that option and force you to save to Gmail Cloud Server. Apple also gives users the same option as Huawei where they can save contacts to device or to iCloud server. If you are in the US then it uses US cloud server but if you are in China then it uses China's cloud server.

If you are not in china, are we suggesting that the Chinese government has free and easy access to foreign nationality based and run cloud servers? As others appear to have suggested....

 

[jamezr]

So are you suggesting they have free and easy access to all the banking apps? Doesnt say much for the triple loggin in security then? Are they also stored on the public cloud servers?
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If you are not in china, are we suggesting that the Chinese government has free and easy access to foreign nationality based and run cloud servers? As others appear to have suggested....

I am saying the same thing I have said in just about every Huawei thread. The Huawei company is nothing more than a front for the Chinese government.

 

[Stevie jobz 2.0]

I am saying the same thing I have said in just about every Huawei thread. The Huawei company is nothing more than a front for the Chinese government.

So.that.is a yes then, if I use uk based google servers to access my gmail, or my own service provider to access my banking app, you are 100% saying Huawei can see every page, every click?
What are they doing with this seemingly unlimited information and access, can anyone who actually has a Huawei device confirm that they have had money taken out of their bank account? And we are kinda saying that google are doing nothing about it? Have i.missed anything off?

 

[jamezr]

So.that.is a yes then, if I use uk based google servers to access my gmail, or my own service provider to access my banking app, you are 100% saying Huawei can see every page, every click?
What are they doing with this seemingly unlimited information and access, can anyone who actually has a Huawei device confirm that they have had money taken out of their bank account? And we are kinda saying that google are doing nothing about it? Have i.missed anything off?

i think you should read my post again.....then there are other threads on this same subject that contain a plethora of information if one should choose to read them.

 

[ramram55]

Take it easy, you have made the right decision to buy a device that has the leading technology edge. Forget what others said. No point of being bother by others, who did not even experience huawei device superiority. Never stress yourself.

 

[stylinexpat]

So are you suggesting they have free and easy access to all the banking apps? Doesnt say much for the triple loggin in security then? Are they also stored on the public cloud servers?
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If you are not in china, are we suggesting that the Chinese government has free and easy access to foreign nationality based and run cloud servers? As others appear to have suggested....

I may be wrong but I believe that there is reasonable doubt to believe that locals in China using “any local smartphone” that use locals cloud servers will most likely be sharing their info with the government. Those that buy an iPhone in China and setup an iCloud account in China will use a local server in China but if you bought an iPhone outside of China and set it up outside of China you will not have this issue. The same I believe takes place for Huawei smartphone sold and setup outside of China. In the US Google spies on pretty much everything and shares pretty much everything with the government which may be a national security threat. I think quite a few companies around the world do this. Microsoft in the US does this as well. All one needs to do is read all the little writing one has to accept to use their OS. There is a reason Google (along with others) was banned in China as well. This goes both ways.

 

[jamezr]

I may be wrong but I believe that there is reasonable doubt to believe that locals in China using “any local smartphone” that use locals cloud servers will most likely be sharing their info with the government. Those that buy an iPhone in China and setup an iCloud account in China will use a local server in China but if you bought an iPhone outside of China and set it up outside of China you will not have this issue. The same I believe takes place for Huawei smartphone sold and setup outside of China. In the US Google spies on pretty much everything and shares pretty much everything with the government which may be a national security threat. I think quite a few companies around the world do this. Microsoft in the US does this as well. All one needs to do is read all the little writing one has to accept to use their OS. There is a reason Google (along with others) was banned in China as well. This goes both ways.

These companies are banned in Chine because of China repressive censorship. These companies would not acquiesce to the blatant censorship restrictions the Chinese government was trying to impose on them.
It is very well known the Chinese government censors it people. Please be honest and don't try to lump those things in the same basket....

Nice little read here...

How Google took on China—and lost

It used to be that while Google wanted China, China really needed Google. Not any more.

www.technologyreview.com

The right thing to do?
When www.google.cn launched in 2006, the company had gone public only two years before. The iPhone did not yet exist, nor did any Android-based smartphones. Google was about one-fifth as large and valuable as it is today, and the Chinese internet was seen as a backwater of knockoff products that were devoid of innovation. Google’s Chinese search engine represented the most controversial experiment to date in internet diplomacy. To get into China, the young company that had defined itself by the motto “Don’t be evil” agreed to censor the search results shown to Chinese users.

In the end, though, it wasn’t censorship or competition that drove Google out of China. It was a far-reaching hacking attack known as Operation Aurora that targeted everything from Google’s intellectual property to the Gmail accounts of Chinese human rights activists. The attack, which Google said came from within China, pushed company leadership over the edge. On January 12, 2010, Google announced, “We have decided we are no longer willing to continue censoring our results on Google.cn, and so over the next few weeks we will be discussing with the Chinese government the basis on which we could operate an unfiltered search engine within the law, if at all

 

[stylinexpat]

These companies are banned in Chine because of China repressive censorship. These companies would not acquiesce to the blatant censorship restrictions the Chinese government was trying to impose on them.
It is very well known the Chinese government censors it people. Please be honest and don't try to lump those things in the same basket....

Nice little read here...

How Google took on China—and lost

It used to be that while Google wanted China, China really needed Google. Not any more.

www.technologyreview.com

They are banned for quite a few reasons. I do agree that censorship is one of them. The one I mentioned is also true. We must not cherry pick and ignore all other factors