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ugru

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Well that is not a "Bad" laptop per se, it could be a good idea for the next BackBook Air, which is a device that serves his purpose...But not the for the MacBook or god forbid the MacBookPro...IMHO every product should have his niche (big or small).

Hopefully they will not start thinning out everything including their "Professional" laptops and desktops like they did in that period...
 
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dburkhanaev

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I really pray they do not. The thinner design they championed from 2016-2021 was rife with issues and complaints. The new devices finally correct a lot of them; although they're not really much different in size. The design leads people to feel that way, but numbers don't lie.

The obsession with "thinness" has lost me. I could not care less about the thickness (to a point). In fact, I would generally be happier with a thicker/heavier device if it means that I have better battery life and better I/O. I am thrilled with the battery life and performance of my 13 Pro Max, and I imagine that I will be thrilled with the battery life and performance of my 2021 16" (when it shows up).

When design impacts performance, I think it is an issue. This was never clearer to me than when my 2019 i9 would perform tasks more slowly than an i7 model due to thermal constraints and throttling. Yes, that appears to have been solved with Apple silicone, but cutting down the size even more would likely lead us back into the same issues we had with Intel. God forbid they take away the ports and MagSafe again.
This 100%. I think the obsession with thin and light should really be the domain of the air and MacBook. Any computer in my opinion that bears the word “pro”, really aught to have professional power and I/O. It’s crazy doing work along your various site and needing dongles of all sorts to accomplish what a basic consumer notebook can handle. The idea that a cheap Dell Latitude can be 13” and have USB-A, USB-C, and an HDMI port and my $3,000 MacBook Pro doesn’t even have the ability to plug into an external display without a dongle, is nuts. There’s plenty of room for a thin and light with a few uniform thunderbolt ports. I think that’s the space for the Air or MacBook. Both are targeted at students and standard consumers and I think that’s really the place for thin and light against all other considerations.

I don’t like huge and heavy, but I understand that a certain size is required for the I/O that I need to have baked in.
 
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EnderTW

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I think eventually they might, but I don't think Apple will ever go thinner than the thermal profile can handle. I think they learned the hard lesson and based on how much these are selling, I don't see Apple giving the middle finger to the pro community again.

To be fair, I think Intel screwed Apple and with their chips from 2016-2020, I'm sure they promised Apple they were going to improve the thermal performance and just never got to it.
 
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