Still weak though if you hit the lottery on a X mean my one will bench 10370 muilt witch means that the average Xs is only around 7% faster than my X wouldn’t call it a grate improvement
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Other I find it funny there are no benchmarks test for the iPhone xs/xs max
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Still weak though if you hit the lottery on a X mean my one will bench 10370 muilt witch means that the average Xs is only around 7% faster than my X wouldn’t call it a grate improvement
I wouldn't call it a "grate" improvement but coupled with an extra GB of ram and a GPU that is 50% faster and I think you have a great S model improvement.
Gpu maybe a bit better but the extra gb off ram means nuthing you can hit same score with a 1gb ram as you can with 32gb off ram as long as both are runing at the same speed now and the app not maxing the 1gb of ram out if thay put in faster ram then yes it would make a difference but seems ram speed still the same all the extra 1gb ram will do is alow the Xs to run heavyer apps
You literally just explained extra overhead: the addition of additional functions or services, either in the background or foreground, causing the device to slow down. You saying ‘It’s still running fast’ means it’s not hardware deterioration, it’s either A: extra software overhead or B: poorly optimized software. My iPhone 3GS would undoubtedly run today as fast on iPhone OS 3.1.3 as it did when it was new, but it runs slow on iOS 6.1.6.
Until iOS 10, the battery did not affect the speed or usability of a product, except for the need to be tethered to a charger. While, yes, it is a form of ‘deterioration’, you and I both know that you did not mean that in your original post. The battery is considered a consumable, like motor oil, brakes, or tires, and most people know that batteries, for now, have a finite life span.
As far as transistor deterioration is concerned, I have yet to see a processor that is pushed to it’s max 24/7/365 for years on end show any chartiable deterioration that isn’t within the margin of error. All the issues we’ve seen stem from heat - the 2011 MacBook Pro comes to mind - are because of poor soldering, not transistor deterioration. You’re really splitting hairs here.
That is why benchmarks are pretty much useless and do not reflect real world usage.
There's more to new processors than just being "faster"
You may scoff at *only* 7% improvement on some particular benchmark. But there's more going on under the hood.
Let's not forget how efficient new processors can be. Smaller process nodes... less power consumption... new custom workloads and abilities... etc.
The nice thing about Apple designing their own processors is that they can make them do exactly what they want with a specific piece of hardware.
Sure... some people seem to want tangible evidence to prove that their new phone is better than their last phone. That's why there is a growth in GeekBench graphs this time of year.
But sometimes it's what you can't see that makes the biggest difference.
TL;DR... Stop worrying about "scores"
Benchmarkings what I do I can take a Samsung ace 3 witch is a cheap underpowered 2 core 1gb cheap phone and make it out score a Samsung galaxy s6 witch at the time off doing this was Samsung top flag ship
It’s easy to do first root and pull the software and put in a custom build that’s light wight and not ram hungry next unlock the corses so that both cores are being used at all times
Then you want to overclock those 2 cores 2 1.8ghz with a power voltage set a 1.2v it will run hot but just keep a ice pack on the back off it to stop thermal throttleing
Next you want to install a ram swapper so you can run a sd card as ram as well as the phones ram then off load everything apart form the benchmarking app to the sd ram
Next you want to bump the phones ram speed up form 400mhz to 800mhz
Then bump the gpu form 600 to 900
Now run ur bench mark and boom you will out score any stock Samsung galaxy s6
There's more to new processors than just being "faster"
You may scoff at *only* 7% improvement on some particular benchmark. But there's more going on under the hood.
Let's not forget how efficient new processors can be. Smaller process nodes... less power consumption... new custom workloads and abilities... etc.
The nice thing about Apple designing their own processors is that they can make them do exactly what they want with a specific piece of hardware.
Sure... some people seem to want tangible evidence to prove that their new phone is better than their last phone. That's why there is a growth in GeekBench graphs this time of year.
But sometimes it's what you can't see that makes the biggest difference.
TL;DR... Stop worrying about "scores"
And more going on under the hood lol that’s funny more like thay need to put a fan on the thing it will probably thermal throttle like the X dose and if your wondering how to make ur x thermal throttle all you have to do is plug the charger in turn on the torch and run a game at the same time and watch the thing slow down and turn in to lag pice off crap I have seen frame dip down to 2fps
I’ll be sure not to use the flashlight when charging and gaming.
Also, you should check out the grammerly extension it’s sweet.
I think you know that in my original post I was challenging the 'conspiracy theory' that Apple releases new updates to old hardware to intentionally slow them down, forcing people to upgrade.
The battery throttling situation was unfortunate because it gave credence to this conspiracy, despite the alternative (random hard resets) would be worse. I do not believe that most people would consider the battery to be a "consumable", with most users (myself included) expecting it to last the usable life of the device, i.e. 4-6 years. My iPad Air 2 battery is starting to suffer, but it's 4 years old now, and nearing the end of its useful life. My 2011 MBP's battery is still running flawlessly. If Apple considered batteries to be "consumable", they would be easily replaceable.
And I seriously doubt that your old iPhone would run as new on its original OS even if it had a new battery. Maybe transistor degradation over the lifespan is not noticeable in iPhones, however thermal paste between chips and heatsinks degrades over time. Other electrical linkages may degrade over time as well. Either way, it's going to generate more heat, and use more power, to do the same tasks.
Have you browsed the Apple Watch forum lately? There is absolutely zero fact and a LOT of opinions about what color people should buy, size, LTE versus non-LTE. Most are asked for, some are not.
Yet in real world usage there are certain elements assisted by the neural engine improvements that are dramatically better.
I don't understand this benchmarking fetish the tech world has. Phones that score similarly are miles apart when it comes to certain workloads. Video conversion for example.
Meanwhile a lot of SoC improvements don't result in tangible real world, everyday use improvements. I currently have a Oneplus 3 with SD820, which is a few years old but it still runs perfectly smoothly even when put side to side with newer Android phones. My gf's Oneplus X with a SD801 is also perfectly usable but takes a bit longer to open apps etc. You could probably get similar results with older iPhones vs newer ones. For years they have been at a state where they run things rather nicely.
Benchmarks and "which phone opens apps fastest" tests are literally splitting hairs for real-world use cases. Most people don't go around converting videos all day long or running Geekbench while waiting for a bus.
Going from X to XS the most visible improvement you are going to see is the 1 second faster Face ID when unlocking your phone. Maybe next year it's 2 seconds faster.
Yup, but just as we did for laptops quite a few years back, smart phones are now at the point where there is little if any gain to be had in the absolute basic regular use of cell phones. No chip improvements are going to make your texts appear faster, make any real difference in web page load times (which says more about the terrible state of web page development loaded with trackers and scripts), etc. We've hit "good enough for normal non-neurotic tech enthusiasts" a couple of years ago.
Advancements going forward, other than paradigm shifts in things like AR, are really going to be playing around with more refinement-based things like camera processing rather than making the basic use of cell phones improve dramatically.
I agree with your challenge of the conspiracy, I do not believe Apple slows down older iPhones on purpose. It's inevitable that new software will slow down any device so they do know that it'll happen, but it's not to try and force you into a new phone.
Regarding the battery, Apple made the right call but with poor execution. If it had been public knowledge what the throttling was fixing, I would still have my 6s Plus. I had no idea, nor reason to believe, that the battery of all things would be causing a slow down of my phone. The expected results of a poor or failing battery would be random shut offs, not slowing of the device. IMO this was the worst mistake Apple has made in recent years, worse than Bendgate and akin to Antennagate. Also Apple does consider batteries consumable, as outlined in the third paragraph under 'How batteries age' on this support article regarding the throttling. Apple makes the battery in most devices hard to replace so you have no choice but to come to them for replacement.
My iPhone 3GS does not suffer from Batterygate throttling. Also, to date no iPhone has used thermal compound on any component. The metal shielding inside the phone is cutdown on radio interference, not thermal conductivity so that point is moot. Also, it's pretty well known that most 'electrical linkages' do not degrade for no reason like you think overtime.
So no, my iPhone 3GS - if running 3.1.3 - would run exactly the same as it did in 2009/10. Same amount of heat and battery consumption to complete the same basic tasks. The problem isn't hardware slowing, it's software bloat.
Speed isn’t what I’ve upgrade phones for since the 6S. Phones have been plenty fast for years.
To an extent, yes, since people want software to do more things that require more processing power. On the other hand, optimization as improve performance over time, so it's definitely a two-way street.
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