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So, where did you plug it in at the gas station?

He must have had a power converter that hooks up to the car's cigarette lighter and converts voltage from 12 volt to 110 volts. You can run small tv's , computers, video games etc. from these. I would not suggest a toaster though :p That is sad that people go around and take advantage of others like this.

He is likely to do it again, true, but I bet in either a close by city or another part of town. The true scammers are smart. They are like lightening, they will not strike in the same exact spot, but it will strike again.
 
He must have had a power converter that hooks up to the car's cigarette lighter and converts voltage from 12 volt to 110 volts. You can run small tv's , computers, video games etc. from these. I would not suggest a toaster though :p...

Yeah, we already solved that mystery in post #39.
 
Even though he scammed you doesnt mean you can take the law into your own hands, I wouldnt be throwing anything at his car, or stalking him if I were you!

Go back to the police station, and let them sort it out. Though its going to be hard without any witness to proove that he scammed you.

yes i agree thats why im not going to meet with him again but im trying to get his name and adress so i can go to police or something or emil him with his personal info and see if he likes that :D
 
i called twice and i submitted an online claim to the FBI. but nothing yet its been a few days :/ and it happened exactly like i said.
 
I also was scammed with a car sale and as another guy said, the police and gov't don't give a sh*t about you or your money. In my case they said they couldn't do anything... but of course THEY took him to court and fined him for an illegal car inspection so they could get "THEIR" money!

But I see 2 options:

1) Get the police to interrupt another dealing with the guy and catch him in the act. See if they would agree to tell him he needs to give you your money back... hopefully he would out of fear.

2) Get some firepower and take your money back. In #1 they can't force him to give you the money so most likely you'll end up with nothing.

You better do something though. You sound practically resigned to the loss of your money by this *sshole!
 
i managed to take down the serial number while he was not looking to check the warranty etc.

I'm really sorry this happened to you.

It seems to me that you should not have had to be furtive about getting the serial number, etc. It it was an above-board deal, he should have been more than willing to give you that info, his car license #, &/or phone #, and if he was not willing to share that info, it would have been a big red flag ... :confused:
 
well it was strictly email communication he explained his phone was broken and it happens so he responded by email. and we set up meeting point.
 
You don't want to hear this, but... why did you ever let it out of your sight?

Don't be put off by internet buy-and-sell, just use what you've learned from this next time.
 
If you're determined to get this guy's address, take the serial down to the closest Apple store. Spot the Genius that looks like he needs cash the most, and tell him "I need a name and an address," then hand him the serial number with two or three $20's folded up.
 
Hire an attorney. Or, and possibly as a general rule, don't buy anything from the trunk of a car.
 
This is a long shot.....

See if you can file a small claims court action. I forget if you said you had his name or not, but you might be able to start the claim even if you don't know his address. Put down "no fixed address" or something. In anycase, once you have the claim registered, then go to the Apple Store. With proper court document in hand, you may find that the scammer's address is now available to you.

If you can wrinkle out the address this way, you now have two options.

1) Serve him with papers. If he shows up, since you have serial number, and his address, and a copy of the Craigslist listing, and all the email correspondence you had, and he will only have a wild and colourful story, you will likely win. In civil case, which this is, the judge only needs to find "on balance" - not "beyond a reasonable doubt". In a civil case, having a file full of papers beats a wild and colourful story. If you win, the scammer will need to pay the $300 plus all the court costs. He will likely not pay, and you're screwed unless you can find his bank and garnishee it.

Talk to the court clerk, and get their advice.

2) Find his scam on Craigslist (use a different email since he is likely smart enough to not respond to a previous victim) and meet him again - with a friend nearby. When he shows you the working Mini.... serve him with papers, and take the Mini. Have a bill of sale all ready to go. Tell him, sign over the Mini to (you need this so he then doesn't claim you stole it) and you'll drop the court-case. Hopefully he doesn't want to deal with paperwork, and he'll sign.

For the scammer, it will be easier to just steal another Mini and continue his scam than to get bogged down in paperwork.

If you can, find a detective who is sympathetic and give them copies of the Craiglist, his name and address. Perhaps they will sting him.

Good Luck.
 
ya i will prob end up calling police back. but not much i can do it seems my only hope is to get someone who works at apple and get his address and such his serial number to his personal mini is my best bet. I used a power inverter to check the mini out. the weights were a shift knob, batteries and power brick all tapped up.
Probably? Why? Can you afford to lose that money?

An Apple employee is not going to risk their job because you were silly enough to get scammed. Sorry, the guy who sold the computer was a douche, but you need to be on your feet when dealing with strangers - especially where money is concerned.

You have options. You say you already have him baited. If the Police won't help you set up something before hand, call them while your friend is doing a deal with him, like I said, and say the deal is going bad.

When they get there, tell them what he's done to you, and then to your friend - give them the e-mails as well, and the computer as proof.

This is your best bet - not relying on Apple to break the law for you because you'd rather take your 'buddies' and smash someone's windows in - while he sits back laughing that he's scammed you.
ya possibly but i guess i envision meeting him like with some buddies like give me my money back and give him the mini back if he says no then that shift knob will end up in his window or ill follow him to his house or something idk?
Why are you acting as though you 'don't know' what to do?

People here have given you sound advice - follow it and stop beating around the bush. People come here for help only to sit back and whine about it.
 
If you're determined to get this guy's address, take the serial down to the closest Apple store. Spot the Genius that looks like he needs cash the most, and tell him "I need a name and an address," then hand him the serial number with two or three $20's folded up.

Assuming that'd EVER work, the Mac could have belonged to anyone. The store could have a log of the original purchaser, but it may have passed hands many times since then
 
yeah i really appreciate everyones advice im going to try to set up a meeting with him and contact the police and try to set up a mini "sting" i doubt it will work out
 
yeah i really appreciate everyones advice im going to try to set up a meeting with him and contact the police and try to set up a mini "sting" i doubt it will work out

Even if you have to stretch the truth by saying you went along with a friend who was buying a computer that just 'happened' to be the same guy - they can't 'get' you for anything, you've done nothing wrong.

You just need to get this guy and the police in the same place, or, failing that, get his address and/or license plate and approach them with that information as well as the email's and the computer as evidence.

You need to be willing to do more than letting an Apple employee bail you out here. If you valued you're money, you'd exhaust every single outlet available to you until this idiot pays up and is caught.
 
yeah i really appreciate everyones advice im going to try to set up a meeting with him and contact the police and try to set up a mini "sting" i doubt it will work out

You know the throw-it-back/bribe-a-Genius/whatever funny posts are not serious, right? I'm not saying I think you're trying to do something stupid, but I just wanted to know what "mini sting" means.
 
If you're determined to get this guy's address, take the serial down to the closest Apple store. Spot the Genius that looks like he needs cash the most, and tell him "I need a name and an address," then hand him the serial number with two or three $20's folded up.

Hahaha I like that way better :D

Serious business.
 
Why don't you call Apple Care and tell them you moved recently and you want to make sure you have the correct address on file. Ask them to verify the address for you.

Be like "I wanted to make sure you guys have the right address cause I moved recently. What address is it showing I am at?"

Maybe they'll give it to you.

After they say it, say "Oh that's right, I guess my brother must've already called and updated it. Thanks!"

The worst they can do is say no.

If that doesn't work then ask yourself, "what would Jack Bauer do?" :)
 
Why don't you call Apple Care and tell them you moved recently and you want to make sure you have the correct address on file. Ask them to verify the address for you.

Be like "I wanted to make sure you guys have the right address cause I moved recently. What address is it showing I am at?"

Maybe they'll give it to you.

After they say it, say "Oh that's right, I guess my brother must've already called and updated it. Thanks!"

The worst they can do is say no.
I actually really like that idea!
 
WOW that guy got you good. i have always thought about how easy it would be to scam someone on craigslist.

people are too trusting

i.e when i traded my Fender Deluxe Reverb for a mint AC30..... the guy just made sure it powered on and took it.


and when i traded my AC30 after a tour stint when it was all banged up, tubes were popped and had a spill stain on it for my Mac mini ( :) )

the guy just took my word for it that it worked... while i tested his mini down to the core
 
The problem with meeting up again is that he's gonna know what's up as soon as he sees a former victim is waiting to meet him.
 
I actually really like that idea!

You don't have to pretend to be him. It's your Mac Mini. You paid for it, so it's your serial number now. He's stolen it from you. Apple is harbouring a felon by not revealing the name of the man who now has your stolen Mac Mini in his possession.

You need to make that very clear to Apple that the name and address they have listed for this serial number is for the man who stole it from you. Also report the serial number as stolen to the police. Don't bother with the 'con job' angle. It was straight out theft. Just tell them he swiped it from you while you were at the gas station, which is the truth. Let him argue differently after they arrest/charge him.

Edit. I personally don't see any difference between him swiping it by switching it when you weren't looking, or simply swiping it from the back seat of your car when you weren't looking. Same thing. He swiped it. Theft is theft and is a crime, not a 'civil matter'. He is in possession of stolen property.
 
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