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iPad Pro I have an iPad Pro 2018... the iPad Pro M1 doesn't seem better at all, it might even be worse!
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Battery life was the main reason I got rid of my 2018 model. It became nearly unusable the battery was so bad. To be honest, I was hoping the M1 iPad would afford me way better battery life than I’m getting with it. Its still better than the 2018, but not any better than my wife’s 2020 model. I guess it makes sense since its really the screen that’s the big upgrade in the M1 model and while I’m sure the M1 chip is more efficient than the A12Z the screen most likely strains the battery.
Three more today. 20 next week, and at least 87 more by August 1st? ?
No way in hell my 2018 IPP is better than my new 2021 m1 iPP 12.9. The screen is way nicer, the responsiveness is much better, overall just much snappier. I sold mine for about 600.00 and had a 350.00 GC laying around forever so did the upgrade and never looked back. Paired with the magic keyboard, it’s a dream.
Ok, I'll bite.
I have bought the 12.9 M1. It seems strange to criticise better hardware because the software is holding it back. Your problem is possibly with the operating system and not the machine.
The blooming is pretty much non-existent but there is edge shadow which I immediately noticed on powering on.
I am super picky with screens and often send Apple devices back until the screen is perfect but I just don't see it. A lot of the pictures of it appear to be taken with an iPhone camera using bad exposure which falsely emphasises the issue no doubt.
Saying that, the battery seems to be poor for me. It is bad enough that I am returning mine tomorrow in the hopes that it is just bad luck.
I'd happily have last years model if the battery lasts longer but I will take more modern hardware that's more future proof if the battery is ok.
I have bought the 12.9 M1. It seems strange to criticise better hardware because the software is holding it back. Your problem is possibly with the operating system and not the machine.
The blooming is pretty much non-existent but there is edge shadow which I immediately noticed on powering on.
I am super picky with screens and often send Apple devices back until the screen is perfect but I just don't see it. A lot of the pictures of it appear to be taken with an iPhone camera using bad exposure which falsely emphasises the issue no doubt.
Saying that, the battery seems to be poor for me. It is bad enough that I am returning mine tomorrow in the hopes that it is just bad luck.
I'd happily have last years model if the battery lasts longer but I will take more modern hardware that's more future proof if the battery is ok.
i think Apple should have gone for OLED to be called a screen upgrade.
anyway all i knew was ios , tablet or phone. Been a week with mackbook pro and cant go back to ipad, dont care how bright or beautiful is the screen , being so limited even on light tasks, like browsing , emailing even youtube for me is much better on macbook pro.
as I said , didnt know much about mac os but is a revelation for me . Cant be bothered with touch touch and back to touch
anyway all i knew was ios , tablet or phone. Been a week with mackbook pro and cant go back to ipad, dont care how bright or beautiful is the screen , being so limited even on light tasks, like browsing , emailing even youtube for me is much better on macbook pro.
as I said , didnt know much about mac os but is a revelation for me . Cant be bothered with touch touch and back to touch
if you mean they cannot get as bright, it's not that they can't, it's that brightness is automatically limited in order to protect the screen. So in theory it's possible, but in practice it's not done because too risky...
I heartally agree,this new one,with the mini led is superb, and HDR playback is amazing . 16 GB RAM, 2TB SSD, I’m in love man!
I ended up returning the 2021 12.9 that I had ordered from Costco and instead bought a 2018 Apple refurbished 12.9 (also a 256GB) simply because my iPad usage did not seem to benefit from the M1 model.
That said, the 2021 is definitely a noticeable upgrade, whether it benefitted me or not. If I were not usually on my 15" MBP, I probably would have kept the 2021 iPP.
That said, the 2021 is definitely a noticeable upgrade, whether it benefitted me or not. If I were not usually on my 15" MBP, I probably would have kept the 2021 iPP.
The colour contrast on the M1 is considerably better than the 2018 model, and in a way that makes me believe that it’s not just due to the backlighting and that the panel is different altogether.
The only possible concern I have with the M1 is that it seems the screen is slightly more reflective, but I may just be seeing things.
The only possible concern I have with the M1 is that it seems the screen is slightly more reflective, but I may just be seeing things.
I think most people can afford the pro 2021 easily and only go with older models (e.g. refurbished 2018 pro for almost half the price) because for their tablet usage the additional features of M1 are not of much value.... (or are not worth the price difference).
For me for instance, only the additional RAM is a benefit (and even then not a huge one since I split my usage between several iPads and a Tab S7+). I don't care about the additional speed, the miniled display (oled is good enough for me) and Thunderbolt (I have no TB accessories and so far TB on iPad barely works). And the additional weight is even a con for the same size....
If and when in a couple of years Apple makes a 15in pro, then I'll have a very good reason to immediately spend $2000-3000 on it... (not looking to replace any laptop, just want to larger size for home use)
That doesn’t make a bit of sense. If he could not afford it, how the heck did he buy it In the first place? If he could not afford it he would not be able to buy it. Common sense
That’s really just you guessing while the OP has brought up multiple points on why they came to their conclusion.
The OP also already owns and iPad Pro. Assuming they now suddenly cannot afford one is trolling at best.
If the OP cannot see the value of 2021, that is of course his decision. As a owner of a 2017 iPP, I do not either see a reason to switch. I still think 2021 is great device.
Of course most people can afford a 2021 iPP if they want. I try to rationalize what bugs many here. Cost is the only parameter left because no one can say that the 2021 is a bad device. A year ago the 2020 was seen as a failure and now in 2021, the 2018 is the best iPad on the planet. As 2018 also was seen as software limited, logically the 2017 model must be much better value or why not the 2015. Consider me confused.
Well, the 2021 iPad is great, except for the paranoid people, huddled in dark rooms, with 100 percent iPad brightness, screaming "blooooooming!".
Of course it is great. In my opinion it is Apples coolest device at the moment and with any rational comparison it is clear that 2021 surpasses 2020 on every parameter. So what are driving people to speak ill of it? This is clearly driven by feeling rather than cool rational analysis and the OP is one example. Envy seem to be a common emotion. Envy in this case translate to too costly expressed as concerns of blooming and too powerful (!).
Well we also have the MacOS hardcores and their “Toy” argument. These people must feel threatened, why else bother with commenting on the iPad at all?
There are also people that obviously feel belittled because they cannot utilize the “pro” iPad to its full extent. This is double hurt for those using the “Toy” argument. This is irrational as most people cannot utilize the MacPro either.
I think there is some oversimplification here... The fact that the 2021 pro is an overall better device does not mean it offers more value (for money) than say the 2018 one at half the price.... So, at least for some, this has nothing to do with emotions... or with iPad vs Mac.... toy argument etc... I don't necessarily agree with the OP arguments, but
as far as I am concerned, the 2018 pro offers several big advantages over the 2017 and 2015 ones, while the 2021 doesn't offer huge advantages (unless you particularly care about them) and has one small drawback (but that can be annoying to someone for whom it matters for their usage, weight)
Yeah. Bottom line is that "value" is subjective and user-dependent. Valuable to one person can readily be valueless to another.
As an private owner of a 2017 and a company issued 2020, I can point at several advantages for both and numerous ties. The single most important advantage of 2020 is the pencil and how it charges. The rest is not obvious to me. Performance is sufficient for both, finger print button is easier (no bring your face closer), the 2017 is easier to hold because the bezels are larger, the 2020 is sleeker because it lacks bezels, cameras is better on the 2020 but I have an iPhone. Not a single feature in 2020 is a deal breaker.
Saying the iPad Pro M1 isn't a worthy upgrade for you or that you complain about iPadOS is one thing. I vehemently disagree, I think iPadOS 15 is going to be a huge update and I feel sorry that the leakers/rumor mill let some people down with false claims of dual booting macOS or some kind of whole new OS for iPad Pros. But that's not Apple's fault.
But to infer that a 2018 iPad Pro or even 2020 iPad Pro is as good or better than the newest model is mindboggling. Of course the M1 is better. The random blooming issue is a non-starter. It will get fixed. But to say that it's lesser than an old iPad Pro is crazy. The newest model is always the best. Not only on paper with specifications but to use. You can tell the difference. I mean I'm on a yearly upgrade cycle with iPhone and there are *huge* year-over-year changes that might seem underwhelming when viewed from a distance or on paper, but once you put it in your hand, it's obvious!
But to infer that a 2018 iPad Pro or even 2020 iPad Pro is as good or better than the newest model is mindboggling. Of course the M1 is better. The random blooming issue is a non-starter. It will get fixed. But to say that it's lesser than an old iPad Pro is crazy. The newest model is always the best. Not only on paper with specifications but to use. You can tell the difference. I mean I'm on a yearly upgrade cycle with iPhone and there are *huge* year-over-year changes that might seem underwhelming when viewed from a distance or on paper, but once you put it in your hand, it's obvious!