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[bocomo]

Just to give my opinion from a less biased standpoint-- I have and use both a Mac (MBA running snow leopard) and a desktop PC (win7) on a regular basis, and I don't feel that either is superior to the other on the most part. They both do what I need, and neither have ever given me problems. They do the same things, just in different ways, and I think it all comes down to personal preference. There are some features & programs that work better on OSX, and some features & programs that work better in Win7.

As for the poster I quoted who said that PCs don't work out of the box and you need to spend your quality time getting your software to work, well thats bogus, or you don't know how to use a PC. You shouldnt run into any issues unless you are building your computer from scratch, or if you buy a really cheap PC pre-filled with crapware.

This whole "it just works" campaign is all marketing, and Apple milks it for all its worth to bring all the computer-illiterates to Mac. The salesguy at the Apple store talked to me about it as if I were a complete newbie to computers, and tried his hardest to convince me that life doesn't get easier than with a Mac. So then I ask you all, IF it really "just works," then what is the need to have tutorials on the Apple website for people to learn how to use OSX? Or the need for set-up help at the genius bar? Or for people to adjust to OSX from windows? I mean, I understand these are conveniences, but if it "just works," then you shouldn't need any help. It should just plain work. But no, alas its all just clever marketing.

And as for the sheep thing - I agree. Not all, but some Apple fans will buy Apple, and Apple alone, blindly... and then brag about it, annoyingly so, as if it is the greatest invention on Earth. We've all met them at some point.

Btw, for someone who talks an awful lot about the importance of time in his post, you sure do seem to have wasted a bunch adding fire to this mac-vs-pc argument. And thinking about it, I probably shouldn't have spent so much time typing this up either. lol...

i must disagree. the training, etc. is for people who aren't used to OSX/macs and would like to learn. it has nothing to do with "not working"

also, about the "sheep" -- there are sheep of all kinds (windows too)

 

[PraisiX-windows]

Sure, you guys were discussing the malware issue. Only your arguments, once the 'city and violence' analogy was introduced by PraisiX-windows, started to verge away from topic and at one point seemed to dominate the thread (as you then just began to pick away at one another).

But here I am guilty of exactly that!!

I agree with GGJstudios, we were being on-topic as the malware issue is a key item in the mac vs pc debate. - It was brought off-topic when you wanted us to duel it out privately, and all the comments that were about whether or not it was on-topic.

Put in an easy way, you took it off-topic.

 

[ritmomundo]

i must disagree. the training, etc. is for people who aren't used to OSX/macs and would like to learn. it has nothing to do with "not working"

also, about the "sheep" -- there are sheep of all kinds (windows too)

yeah, I know its for people who want to learn more about using their macs. thanks for nitpicking my post rather than seeing the whole picture. what I was saying was in response to the guy (who I quoted in my original post) that was talking about how macs "just work," vs how with PCs, you have to "fiddle around for hours," getting your hardware to mesh with your software, "chasing gremlins" and "missing quality time with your kids." obviously, its futile arguing with a fanboy, and I put much more effort than I should have in replying to him.

anyways, I was just trying to make a point about how ridiculous his argument was, and at the same time, saying that nothing is that simple with macs either. both macs and pcs are complex systems that require getting some used to, and they each have their flaws. yes, at times, they both "just work," and at other times, they both can make you want to pull your hair out. just don't fool yourself (not you specifically, rather the original poster I quoted) thinking that macs are the perfect "superior alternative" and that PCs are inferior crap. rather, they perform similar tasks in different ways, they both get the job done, they both have their limitations, and in the end, it all comes down to the user's preference as to which system works better for his needs.