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eyeseeyou

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Just make the apple logo the fingerprint scanner to stay within the guidelines of apple branding. Have ives talk about how using the logo is revolutionary and the best iphone they've ever designed.
 

onepoint

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The function area is only viable due to the OLED display. The LCD displays of the 7s and 7s Plus could not include this area. Why? Because this area is black. The pixels are almost all turned off. This area looks extremely similar to the Touchbar on the new MacBook Pro.
News to me. I use a black background on my iPhone 7 and it looks pretty ...black.

No iPhone has the Touch ID sensor on the back. And placing the Touch ID sensor on the back on one iPhone and on the front on the other is one of the worst business decisions I've ever heard some people suggest.
Your guesses are your guesses, mine are mine.
 

9594864

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Check out https://www.reddit.com/r/iamverysmart/ - I wouldn't be surprised if you find some of your thoughts there. Until we all know for sure, I'll just be changing my iPhone 7 wallpaper now that you told me it can't handle the color black. Good day.
The iPhone 7 and all other iPhones use LCD displays. LCD displays cannot produce deep black levels due to the inherent fact that the backlight must always remain on. They instead produce dark grays. Due to this, you cannot make an iPhone match the black bezel with an LCD display. Therefore, you must have an OLED display to match the bezel, enabling the seamless look on the face of the device.

We know the top of the device has a cutout in the display where the sensors, etc. reside. This cutout is obviously going to be hidden inside a black bezel + artificial black bezel via the OLED display. I say artificial because I'm referring to the fact that the actual black bezel where they reside must blend seamlessly to the display, resulting in the perceived seamless appearance to the user. Because we know this, we can logically conclude that for symmetry, the bottom of the face will also have a black bezel, but this portion will be only display. This portion will house the Home Button functionality with dynamic info/touch areas embedded in this same area.

We can also say with high confidence that all OLED iPhones will only come in black front bezels as opposed to the optional white bezels on previous iPhones. This is quite obvious for multiple reasons, two of which I stated above.
 

onepoint

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The iPhone 7 and all other iPhones use LCD displays. LCD displays cannot produce deep black levels due to the inherent fact that the backlight must always remain on. They instead produce dark grays. Due to this, you cannot make an iPhone match the black bezel with an LCD display. Therefore, you must have an OLED display to match the bezel, enabling the seamless look on the face of the device.

We know the top of the device has a cutout in the display where the sensors, etc. reside. This cutout is obviously going to be hidden inside a black bezel + artificial black bezel via the OLED display. I say artificial because I'm referring to the fact that the actual black bezel where they reside must blend seamlessly to the display, resulting in the perceived seamless appearance to the user. Because we know this, we can logically conclude that for symmetry, the bottom of the face will also have a black bezel, but this portion will be only display. This portion will house the Home Button functionality with dynamic info/touch areas embedded in this same area.

We can also say with high confidence that all OLED iPhones will only come in black front bezels as opposed to the optional white bezels on previous iPhones. This is quite obvious for multiple reasons, two of which I stated above.
Oh. Now it's deep black levels. In that case, I'm in good shape. Thanks for the logic.
 
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Tycho24

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Until we all know for sure, I'll just be changing my iPhone 7 wallpaper now that you told me it can't handle the color black. Good day.

Lol, take that black wallpaper.... go to a screen with zero icons, max out brightness, then go into a pitch black room...
What do you see? Oh, a REALLY bright ass screen emanating a ton of light from your “black” screen?
Ok... now maybe you can understand what people are talking about when they say that on OLED, black is ACTUALLY black! It would literally turn off every single pixel, so you’d be in total darkness.
Make sense?
 

onepoint

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Lol, take that black wallpaper.... go to a screen with zero icons, max out brightness, then go into a pitch black room...
What do you see? Oh, a REALLY bright ass screen emanating a ton of light from your “black” screen?
Ok... now maybe you can understand what people are talking about when they say that on OLED, black is ACTUALLY black! It would literally turn off every single pixel, so you’d be in total darkness.
Make sense?
Oh, yeah I get it. I did long ago when this red herring popped up; it was just more fun to watch the preaching come down from Intelligence Mountain.

But getting back to the original point, why would this make an “activity” area at the bottom of a home screen not possible with an LCD? Did I miss an Apple statement about the rumored area requiring total blackness in dark rooms?
 

9594864

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Oh, yeah I get it. I did long ago when this red herring popped up; it was just more fun to watch the preaching come down from Intelligence Mountain.

But getting back to the original point, why would this make an “activity” area at the bottom of a home screen not possible with an LCD? Did I miss an Apple statement about the rumored area requiring total blackness in dark rooms?
I told you, the bottom will be black to be symmetrical with the top of the device. It doesn't have to be black, but there are multiple reasons why it makes sense to be black as opposed to a typical area of the screen, or a translucent area.

1. Because the top of the iPhone X has a cutout in the display, this top area will obviously be a black bar, i.e. the display will be mostly turned off pixels. The OLED display accomplishes this area blending into the sensor bezel due to the true black levels.

2. As I stated, because this top area is a black bar, the bottom area must be a black bar equal to it in order to retain symmetry which we all know Apple will retain.

3. Because this bottom area is display, it must blend into the surrounding 4mm bezel or it would look absolutely terrible with a stark contrast between this black bar and the black bezel, due to LCD being incapable of coming anywhere near the black level of the plastic bezel.

4. Apple would never have lit display in rounded corners. It looks awful and completely un-Apple. The screen will never not appear perfectly square in nature. In other words, despite the physical display having rounded corners, none of those pixels will ever be lit.
 
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Volgin

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That thing is gross.
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uwdude

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I still don't understand why they would bring the the display all the way to the top, with a cutout for the speaker and sensors. Unless they were going to display something up there it would be a waste of display. And then if you display something, it doesn't look like a black bar anymore.
 

FrancoisC

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Oh. Now it's deep black levels. In that case, I'm in good shape. Thanks for the logic.

One « easier » way to compare it. Display a full screen black photo on an LCD and OLED screen in total darkness (or just at night). On an LCD, you’ll always be able to see the black screen because of the backlight. On an OLED, black emits not light whatsoever, so it’ll be just like if the screen was off.
 

onepoint

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One « easier » way to compare it. Display a full screen black photo on an LCD and OLED screen in total darkness (or just at night). On an LCD, you’ll always be able to see the black screen because of the backlight. On an OLED, black emits not light whatsoever, so it’ll be just like if the screen was off.
I can’t believe it.
 

9594864

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I still don't understand why they would bring the the display all the way to the top, with a cutout for the speaker and sensors. Unless they were going to display something up there it would be a waste of display. And then if you display something, it doesn't look like a black bar anymore.
What do you mean? It still looks like a black bar, you just have objects shrouded in black on the left and right sides.

An example would be a perpetual Search icon (the magnifying glass) in the top right and if you are playing music in the background a pause button appears in the top left, and when you tap it, it turns into the play button. Obviously these are easily accessible in Notification Center and control center but I'm just using them as examples.
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I can’t believe it.
Maybe imagery will help you (assuming you weren't being sarcastic as I am now).
 

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iapplelove

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I think we have a good idea what the next iPhone will look like front and back.

The question is will it still include Touch ID on the front built in under the screen.
 
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