Umm...I believe that the D700s are actually W9000s.
http://architosh.com/2013/10/the-mac-pro-so-whats-a-d300-d500-and-d700-anyway-we-have-answers/
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I just cancelled my nMP order
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Umm...I believe that the D700s are actually W9000s.
http://architosh.com/2013/10/the-mac-pro-so-whats-a-d300-d500-and-d700-anyway-we-have-answers/
So why lead somebody astray by not even showing me a computer with a similar spec'd graphics card and call it equal. Seems rather dis honest of you. As if you had a point to prove rather than helping somebody find an equivalent box at an equivalent price.
For some reason you seem very biased and offensive. Regardless, I consider the 7,3k USD configuration equivalent - or to put it better, an equally preferable choice. You get larger disk, dual gpus (each one is weaker but both of them work better for some apps that take advantage of them), you get TB2 etc. PC on the other side offers more choices. Both of them are nearly in the same price range. And that was the initial topic. PC is not cheaper and better. That argument is a dead horse already. That's all I'm saying. Won't be back on this, though.
Only on macrumors will you find somebody who believes 41.6Ghz < 32.4Ghz. The only biased person is you. You doth project too much SMH.
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However, I question the legitimacy of a state law that taxes a purchase I make out of state. By your definition, any meal, bubble gum, or trip to the gas station should be reported if you are on vacation.
Now if it is a national VAT, that's a different story. I reside in my state, I'm not a citizen of it.
Thats actually not at all how it works.
If you go on vacation to another state, and visit a gas station and buy a pack of gum, you pay sales tax on the gum at the store if that state has a sales tax.
If you are sitting at home and order something from an online store that does not charge sales tax, and it is delivered to your home, you are required to report it and pay your home state sales tax.
Some online stores already charge it for you, such as Apple. Whether they are currently required to charge it for you is determined if the company has a physical presence in a given state. Apple has a presence in almost every state, thus, they charge.
Yes, but what if the state does not collect tax? To go beyond consumable items, what's the difference in buying a sweater in Oregon vs a MacPro and bringing it home?
The question is, how does a state claim authority over my purchase if its made "out of state"?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Use_tax
Whether or not you agree with the state taxing statutes is irrelevant to whether you owe the taxes. Ask Wesley Snipes.
Whether its a sweater or a Mac Pro is irrelevant. Only way to avoid it is to establish permanent residence in a non-tax state.
Appreciate your concern for my decision. My business is doing just fine, and a 7k computer would not phase my business bank account.
The decision is two fold really, do I need it now? No. If not now, when? Answer: I'm not sure. I've got plenty of work lined up that will not require this high performance machine in the immediate future. My original purchase thought was to get it within the timeframe presented to me from Apple. They did not meet that fulfillment and I made a decision to change my order. Simple really. And who are you to tell me I this was not a well thought out decision? Do you know me? Please.
Once my 4k workflow starts piling up, I may jump back on the bandwagon. But I don't see that coming for another 6-8 months. In the meantime, I'd rather take the 7k and put it towards Cine Lenses. The cost of these lens' make the price of the nMP seem cheap
Carry on.
It was never proven. Silly people assumed this, because they were clueless too impatient to wait for test data.
These laws will probably be updated at some point, but arguing whether or not you purchased something out of state because you ordered it over the internet is a bit abstract. The rest of your argument is indicative that you haven't read any of the laws in question as they pertain to your state. I can tell you that at the very least, in the case of California, the laws that pertain to these things are very explicit in where this does or does not apply. I'm not sure about your state, but here the details of them render the consumable items portion moot. In some states sales tax is owed if the item is over a certain amount and brought into the state within a certain period of time after taking ownership. You can look it up as it pertains to your state. Those kinds of laws are really in place to make sure people do not have extremely expensive items shipped to out of state addresses to evade sales tax. This can be the case with items like artwork. Many states want sales tax to be charged at the time of purchase due to the amazons of the world. If you can order online without paying sales tax, yet brick and mortar is forced to charge it, online retailers have a specific advantage due to decreased liability and accounting costs.
Talk about expensive..
Building a comparable PC to what my nMP order is will cost $3k, perhaps a spec more. Problem is the software costs that go along with that would ultimately eliminate any cost savings.
Also most of the "build your own" systems that are touted here as the "50% cheaper than the nMP" are really underpowered... they'll use an i7 and a good graphics card, but then use some $100 MB. Great for Geekbench, not so great for actual workflows.
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Umm.. what I just posted about.. yes a PC with a i7 and a GTX780 will do great on geekbench, but that $100 MB is not going to buy you all the improvements that the nMP has.
Yes, again, the nMP is more expensive, but that PC will still cost you $3kish if you build it right, and then there's the software update costs.
Side note.. the folks who are already Adobe CC subscribers have it the easiest here. Not hard for them to jump platforms. A lot bigger challenge for those with legacy software that would have to be replaced, or those who don't want to commit to Adobe CC subs.
And how much do you think think the nMP MB costs? Don't full yourself. If you are talking quality motherboards with features, the NMB is junk.
And what you stated is incorrect , buy PCI based ssd and your good on a DYI build. Apple did not invent PCI SSDs. There is nothing is a nMP that you cannot get performance wise from a DYI project, in fact you can get better.
Frankly there are too many people on here justifying thier new purchase. Just enjoy it!
I did't had the pleasure to meet you, so what?
How would I know You only because you write in this forum?
Maybe it would be a pleasure to meet you, who knows...
But not knowing you does not take my right away to have my opinion.
I do not see any need to publish here a personal decision you have taken since it hardly helps anybody to know it.
Will you tell all readers what you had yesterday for lunch or what you dreamt about this night?
So you cancelled your order for a nMP.
I clap my hands for your courage to tell it to the world or at least to the readers of this forum.
The world (and this particular forum) will never be the same after your historical disclosure that you cancelled your ordered nMP...
I very much appreciate and thank very much all the people who give here useful information to other readers in this forum. Their experiences with MacPros, technical data, benchmarks, problems they found or solved, news about new hard- or software, news about Apple and so on.
For all the rest I believe the world can still turn around in the same manner without knowing it.
Personally I had a long and hard time to make up my mind to order a nMP (and decide it's specs) and personally I believe in thinking over any decision involving such an high amount of money.
Personally I do not believe that a well thought decision is easily cancelled.
But even if this would not be true, I still see no more use in writing a post about it here than to write it down in your personal pin wall...
It only concerns you and yourself and brings nothing to any other soul on earth!
How would I know You only because you write in this forum?
Maybe it would be a pleasure to meet you, who knows...
But not knowing you does not take my right away to have my opinion.
I do not see any need to publish here a personal decision you have taken since it hardly helps anybody to know it.
Will you tell all readers what you had yesterday for lunch or what you dreamt about this night?
So you cancelled your order for a nMP.
I clap my hands for your courage to tell it to the world or at least to the readers of this forum.
The world (and this particular forum) will never be the same after your historical disclosure that you cancelled your ordered nMP...
I very much appreciate and thank very much all the people who give here useful information to other readers in this forum. Their experiences with MacPros, technical data, benchmarks, problems they found or solved, news about new hard- or software, news about Apple and so on.
For all the rest I believe the world can still turn around in the same manner without knowing it.
Personally I had a long and hard time to make up my mind to order a nMP (and decide it's specs) and personally I believe in thinking over any decision involving such an high amount of money.
Personally I do not believe that a well thought decision is easily cancelled.
But even if this would not be true, I still see no more use in writing a post about it here than to write it down in your personal pin wall...
It only concerns you and yourself and brings nothing to any other soul on earth!
I see your new to MR.... World of pain awaits
With that response, I would recommend you stay away from.... forums and blogs.... etc !!! There is a world of disappointment for you!!!! Shock horror, users post about themselves on the internet!!!!
Ain't that the truth. People here complain about the cost of the nMP and external storage, but the cost of lens or a good 4k camera makes it look like penny candy a lot of the time. It all depends on your needs and what to steal a term going around in the new a lot these days "are the facts on the ground."
What does the cost of a lens have to do with the cost of a computer?
An aircraft carrier costs about $13 billion! Makes the Mac Pro a bargain!
Actually it does concern me, and I'd like to personally thank to OP for notifying me that I have officially moved forward one spot in line!
This is sensible advice. I am an American although I reside in the UK, but when I heard about the assembly ( or part therof) taking place back home? I decided to wait and see what happened before even thinking about ordering one. It would seem that our concerns have been vindicated. I'm not sure what's causing the bottleneck, but folks everywhere are being told that dates slip, then slip again. Maybe in 6 months or a year, they will have nailed the QC and production process. Until they do, I'm happy with my maxed out iMac. It still does the stuff I want to do, and so what if I have to wait a little longer for renders or transcodes to take place?
At least I have a working, proven product that does the job I want it to do.
I'm guessing this was a rhetorical question but I'll reply anyways as I deal with the same issues. When you're a photographer (or videographer), the computer is just one of the many tools you need to do your job. It's just part of the overall capital expense. And sometimes, a new lens, camera, lighting setup or whatever, might mean more to your business than a new computer.
Of course. Limited resources and all.
I was responding to the notion that judging the pricing of a nMP as being a good value or not could be done in relation to completely unrelated items. Whether or not it is a good value can only be judged in relation to other items that could accomplish a similar task.
i live in a state where apple does not have a physical presence. they still charge sales tax for online orders.