I was suspicious of that when I read it. Just commenting that there is a lot of conflicting information out there.
I wish that Apple would give us this optimized charging system but give us an alternate where we say, just charge to XX%.
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I leave my MBA permanently docked, can I force it to only charge to 80% to preserve the battery?
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I wish that Apple would give us this optimized charging system but give us an alternate where we say, just charge to XX%.
Wait really? I have used it on my m1 pro since release and it has been fine.
Yeah, when i learn about aldente i make a research and some posts on reddit have different and random problems.
I also use aldente and my laptop is fine. I using it Mon thru Fri when my mac is connected via a dock for working. On Friday evening, I disable aldente and allow it to charge to 100% so that I dont have to bother with charging during the weekend. Usually this allows me to use laptop all weekend without working to charge it and on Monday when I start my grind over again, I turn aldente and make sure that my laptop does not charges past 80%.
Apple's optimized charging would never work for my use case
Apple's optimized charging would never work for my use case
Aaaaaaand are Apple finally implementing the 80% limit this year? Or do they still want our batteries to die sooner than necessary?
Apple has been implementing Optimized Battery Charging since Big Sur.
Apple's built-in optimized charging. It's been sitting at 80% for a few days, though sometimes it decides to charge to full. It's not clear when it will fully charge or not... but based on a recent post, charing 20-80 vs 40-100 only makes a 1% difference in battery health after 750-800 charges. Unless you're draining your battery before charging all the time, it's not worth trying to micromanage it.
Yes, my battery limits itself to 80% as Apple determines based on behaviour
Clearly they’re not trying to kill my battery. If that was the case they wouldn’t have implemented the feature.
Optimized Charging is different on MacBooks where it sets a target charge amount and generally keeps the MacBook there. On iPhones it is there to keep the phone from hitting 100% too soon in overnight charging and delays the charge so you hit 100% at what it estimates your wake time is. The phone version is not useful for me so I use the phone’s 80% charge limit setting instead.
I have that feature turned on, but never once has my MacBook Air M1 charged itself to less than the full 100%.
It isn't my work computer, so I don't charge it on a regular schedule. For anyone without a regular schedule it is in no way helpful. They could get a dev to implement a hard 80% cap in 2 minutes- as third party software is capable of doing.
It isn't my work computer, so I don't charge it on a regular schedule. For anyone without a regular schedule it is in no way helpful. They could get a dev to implement a hard 80% cap in 2 minutes- as third party software is capable of doing.
macOS does the bolded part too. I plug my MacBook Air in after I get home from work and it charges to 80% then waits until morning to continue the charge to 100%.
my 14" Pro usage today - after being used on AC power a lot (for months).... and then using it on battery during the day a bit. there's a lot going on here - but its all built in battery management.
The 8AM ish charge is when I got to work and plugged into my dock. see it actually drop whilst on AC power down to 80 percent in anticipation of not needing to be used on battery, today was abnormal. when I plugged it back into my dock later in the day it charged hard at 2pm (85W charger or so in the thunderbolt dock).
then charged back up to 100 percent in the evening before I left work in antiquation of being off-charge until tomorrow.
The 8AM ish charge is when I got to work and plugged into my dock. see it actually drop whilst on AC power down to 80 percent in anticipation of not needing to be used on battery, today was abnormal. when I plugged it back into my dock later in the day it charged hard at 2pm (85W charger or so in the thunderbolt dock).
then charged back up to 100 percent in the evening before I left work in antiquation of being off-charge until tomorrow.
My experience, I never did get consistency out of the M2 staying at 80% using Apple's optimization. It was almost always tethered and shot to 100% on occasion even though there wasn't a pattern that I required this to do so. In short, battery health declined even though it shouldn't had to. Fast forward and the battery was replaced alongside every other component due to fluid damage. I used AlDente Pro after this and am a very happy camper with it saying at 80%.
Another experience. Battery optimization worked fantastically for me with my 13 Mini for 6 months. As expected, location, overnight charging and alarm would keep things charged to 80%, then ramp to 100% a few hours before I woke up. Perfect! Then one day it totally stopped doing this and no amounts or resets to relearn brought it back again. It just charged overnight to 100% no matter what.
Obviously I've lost confidence in Apple's battery optimization technology to stay consistent.
Another experience. Battery optimization worked fantastically for me with my 13 Mini for 6 months. As expected, location, overnight charging and alarm would keep things charged to 80%, then ramp to 100% a few hours before I woke up. Perfect! Then one day it totally stopped doing this and no amounts or resets to relearn brought it back again. It just charged overnight to 100% no matter what.
Obviously I've lost confidence in Apple's battery optimization technology to stay consistent.
It’s not that simple. Time is one factor but the rate of decline is greater if you constantly charge batteries to 100%.
My M2 Max MBP is almost exclusively used with a Studio Display, which obviously charges it. With the
System Settings > Battery > Battery Health > Optimised Battery Charging toggled on, it never goes above 80%. Under the menubar icon it says "Power Source: Power Adapter. Charging On Hold (Rarely Used On Battery)". There is an option there to "Charge to Full Now" but I never do that. I unplug it from the display at night. I've had it since April 2023, using it virtually every day, and the "Battery Health" reports "Battery Condition - Normal" and "Maximum Capacity - 100%". So I don't see the need to buy a third-party app. (Edit: running on Sonoma 14.7 btw)
Of course. The previous posted said that "battery health declined even though it shouldn't had to". My point is that it will still decline whether you use it or not.
It was my comment. Then I'll add "prematurely"going by the premise that it shouldn't actually have spiked to 100% in the first place. That was the point I was trying to make.
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Are you sure the battery bypass only works at >80% levels? I understood that once Al Dente stops the charging it always transfers into that state? Why would it only work above 80%?