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You do make a good point. Apple's TrueDepth data might be processed through Neural Network / Machine Learning and applied to the photos in the future to correct the distortion, perhaps. But sadly, that is not happening today. Who knows? It might be a feature in the next iPhone when it goes triple lens and the new addition is a super-wide lens.

For now, though, I suppose the only realistic remedy is to purchase an aftermarket add-on lens if you're sticking with an iPhone.

I have FaceID off. Does that affect my true depth?

And what does the true depth do to the selfie?

I haven’t really noticed a difference.
 
Nothing now, he’s just saying maybe someday in the future.

Ahh I see.

So basically for now there’s nothing special about Apples front facing camera.

We’ve got True depth, Portrait mode, bokeh, and Animoji,

BUT IF WE JUST WANT A SELFIE THAT LOOKS LIKE A NORMAL PHOTO WE’RE OUTTA LUCK.

Sorry but that’s just frustrating for me. I can’t carry a selfie stick with me bc I feel kinda embarrassed to use one in public. And I also feel embarrassed putting a lens on it and taking selfies.

All my social media posts with my friends and the people I meet are selfies. I cherish the photos and enjoy sharing them. A lot. So that’s why it matters to me. I don’t generally ask others to take a photo.

I have some selfies with some really cool people, like famous people.

It’s a cool photo, but the picture sucks. Thanks Apple. Lol.
 
Ahh I see.

So basically for now there’s nothing special about Apples front facing camera.

We’ve got True depth, Portrait mode, bokeh, and Animoji,

BUT IF WE JUST WANT A SELFIE THAT LOOKS LIKE A NORMAL PHOTO WE’RE OUTTA LUCK.

Sorry but that’s just frustrating for me. I can’t carry a selfie stick with me bc I feel kinda embarrassed to use one in public. And I also feel embarrassed putting a lens on it and taking selfies.

All my social media posts with my friends and the people I meet are selfies. I cherish the photos and enjoy sharing them. A lot. So that’s why it matters to me. I don’t generally ask others to take a photo.
I understand the frustration. The only way at the moment that can slightly ease the problem without resorting to extra hardware is to make use of the rear camera to take selfies and stick the phone as far away as possible from you with your arm while still being able to press the shutter (the volume button is handy). I use the reflection off the glass back of the phone to frame the photo. It took a bit of practice, but I'm more less content with the results.
 
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I see selfie sticks everywhere being used.
Sounds like your only option is to sell your X and buy another android phone that better suits your needs.

It’s fine. I love my iphone. Ive seem the camera test comparison on YouTube for selfies particularly the Samsung and I honestly thought that the iPhone was a lot better. Yes the SamSung was definitely wider which is why I got excited and started this thread because wider definitely seems really nice but I just feel like the quality Of the iPhone selfie was much better. I like the color the lighting and all that stuff more. Like a lot more. To me there wasn’t even a comparison in terms of all that.
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I understand the frustration. The only way at the moment that can slightly ease the problem without resorting to extra hardware is to make use of the rear camera to take selfies and stick the phone as far away as possible from you with your arm while still being able to press the shutter (the volume button is handy). I use the reflection off the glass back of the phone to frame the photo. It took a bit of practice, but I'm more less content with the results.

Cool I’ve got to try that. I actually didn’t know you have to stick your arm out far. I never really thought about that. I’ll be more conscious next time to Stick my arm out further when I take a selfie and I’m sure it’ll look a lot nicer. Thanks for the tip!
 
The mm number for the lens refers to the focal length, not the size of the photo. The smaller (hence shorter) it is, the wider (field of view, that is) it is. You might want to take a look at this table.

http://www.jeffreysward.com/editorials/lenscov.htm

The "long (36mm)" value shows how "wide" in terms of angle that a photo will cover when shooting with a lens of certain focal length. You'll notice that the 28mm lens can do about 65 degrees, while the 32mm one can do about 59. That 6 degrees difference is why I shoot selfies with the rear camera, personally.
How do you shoot selfies with the rear camera -- I would like to be able to do this!?
 
I actually didn’t know you have to stick your arm out far. I never really thought about that. I’ll be more conscious next time to Stick my arm out further when I take a selfie and I’m sure it’ll look a lot nicer. Thanks for the tip!

You need to google focal length to learn all about it. Hard to believe that you did not know about moving your armo_O
 
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a wider camera isnt always a good thing. it depends on what types of photo you take and how you want to compose your photo. an ultra wide angle camera can capture more, but at the same time, you will also see your ugly arm sticking out. that doesnt make a better picture.

In normal cameras, portrait lens are around 70-135mm, so that photographers dont have to shove the cameras right up your face when take portrait photos.

use a selfie stick or get someone to take the picture for you. afterall, the back camera takes much better photos
 
How do you shoot selfies with the rear camera -- I would like to be able to do this!?
Take a look at this post I made earlier.
(...)make use of the rear camera to take selfies and stick the phone as far away as possible from you with your arm while still being able to press the shutter (the volume button is handy). I use the reflection off the glass back of the phone to frame the photo(...)
 
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It’s a 32 mm (full frame equiv) focal length lens, same as in the X. That’s considered “wide angle” btw.
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Everyone calls the 52mm (full frame equiv) a tele lens but in the world of photography it’s just a “normal” focal length lens. Similar to the same fov as the human eye.
Thanks for that! These are numbers I understand, rather than vague "wide-angle" and "telephoto" terms that are dropped around by phone manufacturers.

I wish they'd make a wider front-facing lens (it could have an option to crop it for FaceTime if people so wish) as I don't like selfie sticks and would prefer to get more in my selfies. Of course, wider lenses increase distortion but software can mitigate that to a great extent.
 
How do you shoot selfies with the rear camera -- I would like to be able to do this!?

You can use a Bluetooth camera remote such as this one ~ CamKix Wireless Bluetooth Camera Shutter Remote Control for Smartphones - Create Amazing Photos and Selfies - Compatible with all IOS and Android Devices with Bluetooth/Including Wrist Strap https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00PJSIIES/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_NN3NBbNAMDAKY or if you have an Apple Watch launch the camera app on the watch check what the iPhone’s camera is seeing and tap the watch screen to take a photo.
 
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You can use a Bluetooth camera remote such as this one ~ CamKix Wireless Bluetooth Camera Shutter Remote Control for Smartphones - Create Amazing Photos and Selfies - Compatible with all IOS and Android Devices with Bluetooth/Including Wrist Strap https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B00PJSIIES/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_tai_NN3NBbNAMDAKY or if you have an Apple Watch launch the camera app on the watch check what the iPhone’s camera is seeing and tap the watch screen to take a photo.
I forgot about using the watch as a timer/remote for the camera! Thanks for the reminder.
 
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Look, OP, if you really want a wide-angle perspective, just buy a DSLR and a 10mm or 12mm "fisheye" lens -- that will give you more than enough wide angle!! :D

Some point-and-shoot and compact cameras also have a fairly wide-angle perspective, too. For instance, the Sony RX100 M6 has a range from 24mm - 200mm (35mm equivalent). If you don't understand what that means, Google it.

I'm curious: what's your fascination with "selfies" in particular?
 
Hmm.. A comment on today's article might interest you.
https://forums.macrumors.com/thread...-iphone-xs-max-reviews.2139335/#post-26502283

Gruber says that XS's wide-angle rear camera has a focal length of 26mm, compared to 28mm in X. That means it is indeed "wider" and captures more on the sides.

Very very slightly wider. FOV is about 4* more only.
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Pretty cool! I hope the front facing camera is also wide(r) angle

*praying for wider selfies* lol

There is non dictation and no specs anywhere that indicate a wider ( not even slightly) front lens then is currently on the X.

As I mentioned before since none of the suggested options are to your liking, then your best bet is to sell your X and buy another phone that better suits your needs.
 
Very very slightly wider. FOV is about 4* more only.
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There is non dictation and no specs anywhere that indicate a wider ( not even slightly) front lens then is currently on the X.

As I mentioned before since none of the suggested options are to your liking, then your best bet is to sell your X and buy another phone that better suits your needs.

Wait I thought the back one was 2mm less. 26 instead of 28?

The front though I'm not sure :(
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Look, OP, if you really want a wide-angle perspective, just buy a DSLR and a 10mm or 12mm "fisheye" lens -- that will give you more than enough wide angle!! :D

Some point-and-shoot and compact cameras also have a fairly wide-angle perspective, too. For instance, the Sony RX100 M6 has a range from 24mm - 200mm (35mm equivalent). If you don't understand what that means, Google it.

I'm curious: what's your fascination with "selfies" in particular?

I just like taking selfies with cool people. I have a lot. I enjoy sharing them on social media with friends.

Asking strangers to take our photos makes me nervous, even if it is our waiter at a restaurant (or waitress).

So I need a good selfie camera.
 
The rear wide angle focal length should be 26mm equivalent now, ref: https://daringfireball.net/2018/09/the_iphones_xs

John Gruber has more or less confirmed it, it's pretty obvious from the photos he has taken.

John Gruber said:
When I first started comparing side-by-side shots from the iPhone XS and iPhone X using the wide-angle lens, I noticed that the shots from the iPhone XS had a slightly larger field of view. They were a little bit wider. Look at the photos of the clown photo booth above and you can see it clearly. I didn’t move at all between those shots — both phones were roughly the same distance from the subjects, but the iPhone XS captured more of the scene. Apple confirmed to me that this is true — the iPhone XS wide-angle lens has an equivalent focal length of 26 mm. Not a lot wider, but enough to be noticeable. But when you look at the actual focal length of the lens in Photos (or any other app that can display the EXIF data of the image files), it is 4.25 mm.
 
The rear wide angle focal length should be 26mm equivalent now, ref: https://daringfireball.net/2018/09/the_iphones_xs

John Gruber has more or less confirmed it, it's pretty obvious from the photos he has taken.

Dang the photo compassion in the link seems a lot different, at least to me.

The Xs really does look better.

I’m guessing bc it’s wider and more in it.

Now we just need to figure if the selfies are wider.

I’ll probably buy the Xs if wider, seems like there’s a big difference in how the photos turn out.
 
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