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I say everyone jailbreak and run Slingbox over 3G
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I dont think a few jailbroken iphones with Sling are going to bring down AT&T's infrastructure.
And its not like everyone is going to Sling all day. Checking out a few minutes of the game here and there is not going to cause anything.
People watch youtube videos, listening to pandora or using Orb over 3G all the time. I think AT&T overreacted over this thinking that Slingplayers are going to bring down its network.
And its not like everyone is going to Sling all day. Checking out a few minutes of the game here and there is not going to cause anything.
People watch youtube videos, listening to pandora or using Orb over 3G all the time. I think AT&T overreacted over this thinking that Slingplayers are going to bring down its network.
How many people have SlingPlayers and an iPhone? Then, how many people will be using it non-stop? Is Sling *really* that popular?
I suppose you are right. But I would support AT&T's decision to charge a SlingBox fee monthly.
Drop any phone and you lose the warranty... that has nothing to do with jailbreaking.
Wow, I bet AT&T would love you as a customer.
Get charged for unlimited data and then pay again a monthly fee for Slingbox?
Get charged for unlimited data and then pay again a monthly fee for Slingbox?
I'm paying for 6 gigs of data a month - I should be able to use those 6 gigs anyway I like.
Maybe one month I only use 50 megs, maybe the next month I use a gig in a day. I expect to be able to do that. If not, I should get money back for whatever data I don't use.
Carriers are trying to have their cake and eat it too.
Maybe one month I only use 50 megs, maybe the next month I use a gig in a day. I expect to be able to do that. If not, I should get money back for whatever data I don't use.
Carriers are trying to have their cake and eat it too.
I'm pretty sure that AT&T doesn't want millions of iPhone's clogging up their 3G network with streaming SlingBox content. I'm sure they'll eventually allow it in the future once more bandwidth opens up, but I'm sure there's a logical reason due to network capacities.
I mean, I certainly don't want to have bogged-down 3G access just because people feel like they have some sort of "right" to stream SlingBox over 3G. I could have told you it would have been WiFi-only the second they released word that they were in development of the App.
Not to mention, I'm pretty sure that even if they did open up 3G streaming, and it's slow and sluggish, people would just complain anyway, so it's a loose-loose situation for AT&T either way you look at it.
I mean, I certainly don't want to have bogged-down 3G access just because people feel like they have some sort of "right" to stream SlingBox over 3G. I could have told you it would have been WiFi-only the second they released word that they were in development of the App.
Not to mention, I'm pretty sure that even if they did open up 3G streaming, and it's slow and sluggish, people would just complain anyway, so it's a loose-loose situation for AT&T either way you look at it.
*IF* Slingplayer will bring down AT&T's network, I guess AT&T should also cancel its streaming mobile tv service too!
Just like how Apple says the original iPhone's hardware cannot support MMS, some of you will believe anything (insert whomever) tells you. Use a little bit of that brain you have up there - you may not normally use it, but it is there!
Now, do you know if they run off the same thing? Does their streaming service cost money? If so, why would they allow something to compete? Also, if they do charge for it you can bet a big chunk of that goes into the continuous updates they have to do each year (Last i heard its to the tune of 9ish Billion annually) to just keep up with increased useage.
Yeah, I agree with you - but, to me, 'uptime' means 'uptime'.
AT&T (it seems, and certainly most carriers) are like crappy old apartment buildings. Where not everyone can flush their toilet at the same time, and the hot water runs out fast in the morning, and the pipes rattle when no one's used them in a bit, like in the middle of the night.
It works because generally not everyone flushes their toliet at the same time, or uses bursts of hot water at once all the time, or use the pipes at 4 am. So it's generally ok. Not that bad. Right?
But I'd rather pay for, and live in, a "good" building. Where, if I wanted to, and was willing to pay for, could run a hot shower 24/7. With a mechanical 24/7 toilet flushing arm.
at&t, and most of these all telco guys, and trying to have their cake (by getting yummy money) and eat it too (by not re-investing more into active development aka "eating it"). Running a "bad building" at, what I consider, "good building" prices.
I think it would take alot more than 4 iphones streaming video to bring down a cell tower 
I think it would take alot more than 4 iphones streaming video to bring down a cell tower
I would not be surprised. At&t's network is so bad and unstable,it's miracle they still advertise it as the fastest 3G network...
Depends on where you are located also.
I have no problems with steady 3G coverage and good download speeds.
But not every city is the same thruout the US.
I have no problems with steady 3G coverage and good download speeds.
But not every city is the same thruout the US.
I think it would take alot more than 4 iphones streaming video to bring down a cell tower
The tower itself, no.
The outbound pipe from the tower to the CO/next hop, maybe.
It's not uncommon to see a T1 or two supplying a whole tower's worth of users. Generally high contention ratios are fine -- the high latency of mobile data lets you pull some clever QoS tricks, and the usual usage patterns of mobile data users (light browsing, some e-mail here and there) mean that you don't really have to worry to much about being over-committed.
That is, until some guy decides he's going to "stick it to the man" by convincing loads of folks to stream relatively-high-bandwidth video over UMTS/HSDPA. If you've only got 3mbit on the backhaul, all that's needed is 5 smug pricks streaming video before you make the experience suck mightily for everyone on that tower.
So please: don't. You won't "stick it to the man". You won't prove anything to AT&T. They won't even notice. What you will do is help ensure that everyone on the same tower as you has higher latencies, lower throughputs, and an all-around worse experience than they otherwise would.
In summary: don't be "that guy".
Has anyone used the slingbox classic successfully with the app? I haven't bought a slingbox yet but I was considering it. Does the tv have to be on for the app to work? If someone is watching a channel on the tv can I watch a different channel on my iphone without bothering them?
I have digital cable. Also I've heard some people have trouble getting the 3g hack to work with the AV or classic.