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SRLMJ23

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I like 10.11.4 so much that I might fresh install my system because I have been upgrading to each update. I feel like that since 10.11.4 is running so great on a system that has been upgraded since El Capitan was released, it will run amazingly well if I fresh install 10.11.4. It brought back my Late-2010 MacBook Air from the terrible performance I was getting on 10.11.3 to running like Snow Leopard (which is what my MBA came installed with when I bought it.)

Also, under 10.11.3 my MBA was running abnormally hot, now under 10.11.4 it is running cool as a cucumber! Amazing job fellow beta testers AND Apple for an EXCELLENT release!

:apple:
 

KoolAid-Drink

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Sorry, I have to disagree. I dislike El Cap, it's a sloppy release of OS X, and I deal with weird glitches here and there (Time Machine's UI, just to name one example). Yosemite was rock solid and smooth, very seldom had issues with it. I probably am in the minority. My longstanding perspective that odd-numbered releases of OS X generally are bad, while even-numbered releases are more solid and stable. Think 10.7 to 10.8, or, say, 10.3 to 10.4.
 

Gochugogi

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10.11.4 is a winner for me as well, albeit 10.11.2 worked fine. The earlier variants were very crash prone and buggy. I'm pleased all my legacy apps still work great: Aperture 3.6, Peak Pro 7, CS5 Suite, Quicken 2007 (!) and Office 2008. I still have Mavericks on an external SSD but am finding fewer and fewer reasons to boot it. 10.11.4 runs all my old apps as well or better.
 

Jess13

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I just installed, and immediately had a serious DNS problem. MacRumors, Twitter, Disqus, other websites, would not load in Safari, Firefox or Chrome. I had to find this to fix:

https://support.apple.com/HT202516

Code:
sudo killall -HUP mDNSResponder

Frustrating start for me.
 

gumblecosby

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OS X 10.11 has been good all the way through for me so I haven't noticed much difference in this latest update.

I have the same 2 issues since Yosemite and now El Capitan that still persists in the latest update:

1. It's the noticeably (to me anyway) poor frame-rate of the Stacks animations on the the Dock. On a 2015 Macbook Pro stacks in grid-view or fan-view only animate smoothly with the discrete GPU. On a 2009 white Macbook they're poor even with transparency off. Considering how well the rest of the system UI runs smoothly it just looks like an oversight or is viewed as an extremely low priority issue.

2. Spring loaded animations in Finder are really rough looking when compared to Mavericks or below. Since Apple set Finder to open tabs by default most people will never see this.

Besides these minor things it's been fine.
 

Fishrrman

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I've been doing all the "beta updates" (along with the "final" updates) since 10.11.1 -- and actually haven't had any serious problems at all.

So far, thumbs-up for EC...
 
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MysticCow

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No issues since upgrading to 10.11 or 10.11.4. For me, 10.10 Yosemite was the bane of my existence. 10.11 runs just fine for me.
 

SRLMJ23

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So I see that most agree 10.11.4 is a great update that has sped things up and has provided overall better stability and performance.

Some say that they have had zero issues with El Capitan with any release, and some in the very much minority say that El Capitan 10.11.4 is terrible or any version of El Capitan is terrible.

I am just happy we received a great update!

:apple:
 

n-evo

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I constantly have issues with my MacBook Pro (Early 2015) and wireless internet since updating to 10.11.4. Same goes for my iPhone 6s on iOS 9.3. I have a brand new AirPort Extreme which didn't gave me any issues before. I constantly have to connect and disconnect from Wi-Fi otherwise pages refuse to load.
 

kaiju_wars

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What battery life issues?
The fact that when I close the lid and come back not even a whole 24 hours later, the battery dropped 15% and overall the battery life just gets sucked down faster. I don't have that many cycles ran on the battery, the battery health is good, and none of these issues occurred until I installed El Capitan.
 

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The fact that when I close the lid and come back not even a whole 24 hours later, the battery dropped 15% and overall the battery life just gets sucked down faster. I don't have that many cycles ran on the battery, the battery health is good, and none of these issues occurred until I installed El Capitan.
And don't you find strange that nobody else is having these issues? Why do you atribute them to El Capitan as an OS? Why not an incompatible app? Why not some wrong move made by you?

Did you Google for possible solutions? Did you try to isolate the issue? 10.11.4 has no battery issues at all.

Your whole "battery issues" is so moronic just like this: "did this update fix the high fan noise?"
Who the hell knows? There are 1000 reasons for fan noise or battery issues, and over 990 of them have nothing to do with the OS.
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Anyway, go to  - System preferences - Energy Saving - Battery - Disable power nap if enabled.
Also press cmd key and space key at the same time (spotlight) - Type activity monitor - Energy - See what's been using your energy.
Otherwise if it wasn't enabled and you want more tips, search the web or ask me/us/forum.

El Cap has been great for batteries. Issues might happen.
 

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The fact that when I close the lid and come back not even a whole 24 hours later, the battery dropped 15% and overall the battery life just gets sucked down faster. I don't have that many cycles ran on the battery, the battery health is good, and none of these issues occurred until I installed El Capitan.

if you go into Activity Monitor, you could be able to identify the culprit. Look for the energy tab and sort by Energy or average energy.
 
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pat500000

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For those who have logitech mx bluetooth mouse...anyone having problems with the connection? i meant..does it stagger?
 

kaiju_wars

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And don't you find strange that nobody else is having these issues? Why do you atribute them to El Capitan as an OS? Why not an incompatible app? Why not some wrong move made by you?

Did you Google for possible solutions? Did you try to isolate the issue? 10.11.4 has no battery issues at all.

Your whole "battery issues" is so moronic just like this: "did this update fix the high fan noise?"
Who the hell knows? There are 1000 reasons for fan noise or battery issues, and over 990 of them have nothing to do with the OS.
-------
Anyway, go to  - System preferences - Energy Saving - Battery - Disable power nap if enabled.
Also press cmd key and space key at the same time (spotlight) - Type activity monitor - Energy - See what's been using your energy.
Otherwise if it wasn't enabled and you want more tips, search the web or ask me/us/forum.

El Cap has been great for batteries. Issues might happen.

I've already done all that. But thanks for your pretentious rant. Also, before you say that I equated my problems to 10.11.4, please reread my post where I asked if 10.11.4 fixed these issues.

I'm looking to see if 10.11.4 fixes. But anyways, to address your rant. No, no background tasks running, nothing I've done wrong, no apps taking up battery life, unless I'm running VMware Fusion, which 90% of the time I don't.
And yes, I've already made sure if it wasn't VMware. It's not running in the background, and this issue has persisted with El Capitan before I installed it.

Also, from what I've read, a lot of people with older MacBooks of various sorts have taken a slight hit on battery. But hey, sorry for my moronic post of simply asking.
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if you go into Activity Monitor, you could be able to identify the culprit. Look for the energy tab and sort by Energy or average energy.
Thank you, I've tried this though, turned up nothing.

Only other thing I could think, other than OS, is my battery took the ******* RIGHT AFTER I installed El Capitan, and some very rare bug in the OS is saying it's still a healthy battery.
 

Paulk

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I look forward to the new retina macbook, when my current machine packs up, hopefully not for a while.
 
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