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Digitalguy

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Android tablets are more suitable for productivity? Care to elaborate on that?

I have an Android tablet in a form of the Galaxy Fold and no doubt about it, it's my favorite device... but I find productivity between the iPad and Android tablet to be equal. Because if someone decides to highlight file system for Android being superior... then there's better keyboard shortcuts and more trackpad gestures under the iPad.

Basically, you get a better overall experience for productivity on the iPad...but there's no debate in file management being better on Android.
I would say Samsung tablets has better window management on external display and way better window management and multitasking on the tablet. And Stage manager does not do enough to be as good as OneUI (not even using Dex, which personally I use only for external monitors. And file manager as you said.
Sure I prefer the trackpad on iPads but still multitasking clearly goes to Samsung in my opinion
 
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Digitalguy

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Wrong about other tablets running sidecar? I dont think so but if you know of a way to get an android tablet running sidecar then I'm all ears.

Note I'm talking sidecar.

Most adobe apps which you can use on iPadOS aren't even available on android tablets.

I'm not sure you know what you're talking so confidently about.
What I am saying is that there are much better solutions than Sidecar on Android, they just don't work for Macs. Again if you have a Mac that's a different story, as I said above. But saying that Android solutions are inferior because it does not work with Macs... well..
Anyway, I use the external monitor feature a ton. I have made in-depth comparisons of the different solutions here on MacRumors and the solutions for Android as much superior to those for iPad (Superdisplay, which works with any Android tablet, and the Samsung Second Screen, in particular).
 

Ludatyk

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I would say Samsung tablets has better window management on external display and way better window management and multitasking on the tablet. And Stage manager does not do enough to be as good as OneUI (not even using Dex, which personally I use only for external monitors. And file manager as you said.
Sure I prefer the trackpad on iPads but still multitasking clearly goes to Samsung in my opinion
I don't think it's as clear cut as you make it out to be, I believe it's more of a preference situation (imo).

Yeah, I like the way Samsung does its grid layout when it comes to multitasking. And the whole edge panel is dope for OneUI... but Apple making an effort into making a better keyboard shortcut system, does wonders when it comes to multitasking.
 

philipma1957

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I am a fully mixed user of gear. I have windows android iOS os and linux.

The Sammy 8 was really nice for my use. I preferred if over the iPad mini.
When I saw I could go from the Sammy 8 to the Sammy 9 ultra for a mere 333 is was an easy up grade.
I am on the fence as to if I will upgrade the iPad mini to an iPad Pro or an iPad mini but I will upgrade that some time later this year.

Since my feet are in most gear and I have played with this gear across the board since 1995. I long ago decided to not be in a single camp.

I am older I was born in 1957 while I stay tech savvy I have found a need for big screens since I had the 2 eyes done for cataracts. If I was 30 with my good close up eyes I likely would have stayed with iPad mini and nothing else.

I get the Sammy tomorrow I will do a simple phot shot of the three tablets and say if your eyes have issue with small size you can see the new Sammy is huge.

When the iPads come out I am ready to get one of them I just do not know if it will be iPad Pro or iPad mini.

I do not need cellular for either the Sammy or the mini
 

sparksd

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I am a fully mixed user of gear. I have windows android iOS os and linux.

The Sammy 8 was really nice for my use. I preferred if over the iPad mini.
When I saw I could go from the Sammy 8 to the Sammy 9 ultra for a mere 333 is was an easy up grade.
I am on the fence as to if I will upgrade the iPad mini to an iPad Pro or an iPad mini but I will upgrade that some time later this year.

Since my feet are in most gear and I have played with this gear across the board since 1995. I long ago decided to not be in a single camp.

I am older I was born in 1957 while I stay tech savvy I have found a need for big screens since I had the 2 eyes done for cataracts. If I was 30 with my good close up eyes I likely would have stayed with iPad mini and nothing else.

I get the Sammy tomorrow I will do a simple phot shot of the three tablets and say if your eyes have issue with small size you can see the new Sammy is huge.

When the iPads come out I am ready to get one of them I just do not know if it will be iPad Pro or iPad mini.

I do not need cellular for either the Sammy or the mini

Similar thoughts here (except I'm older). I like playing with the different gear.
 

Digitalguy

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I don't think it's as clear cut as you make it out to be, I believe it's more of a preference situation (imo).

Yeah, I like the way Samsung does its grid layout when it comes to multitasking. And the whole edge panel is dope for OneUI... but Apple making an effort into making a better keyboard shortcut system, does wonders when it comes to multitasking.
I agree, it's personal preference. I have no interest in keyboard shortcuts, I am a UI person, so that does not weight in my judgement.
 
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Digitalguy

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I am a fully mixed user of gear. I have windows android iOS os and linux.

The Sammy 8 was really nice for my use. I preferred if over the iPad mini.
When I saw I could go from the Sammy 8 to the Sammy 9 ultra for a mere 333 is was an easy up grade.
I am on the fence as to if I will upgrade the iPad mini to an iPad Pro or an iPad mini but I will upgrade that some time later this year.

Since my feet are in most gear and I have played with this gear across the board since 1995. I long ago decided to not be in a single camp.

I am older I was born in 1957 while I stay tech savvy I have found a need for big screens since I had the 2 eyes done for cataracts. If I was 30 with my good close up eyes I likely would have stayed with iPad mini and nothing else.

I get the Sammy tomorrow I will do a simple phot shot of the three tablets and say if your eyes have issue with small size you can see the new Sammy is huge.

When the iPads come out I am ready to get one of them I just do not know if it will be iPad Pro or iPad mini.

I do not need cellular for either the Sammy or the mini
I am in several camps too, Windows, MacOS, IPadOS and Android. No interest in Linux or ChromeOS however.
I have tons of devices of each system, especially Windows ones.
Funny enough Macs are only for content consumption (I have 4 of them, but mainly use 2, a maxed out 12in Macbook for youtube and a M1 mini as a streaming server)
iPads and Android tablets are both for leasure and work (mainly as monitors for work).
Windows is for everything (I am on my desktop most of the time and on a laptop when away).
 
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Isengardtom

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I would say Samsung tablets has better window management on external display and way better window management and multitasking on the tablet. And Stage manager does not do enough to be as good as OneUI (not even using Dex, which personally I use only for external monitors. And file manager as you said.
Sure I prefer the trackpad on iPads but still multitasking clearly goes to Samsung in my opinion
I fully agree, although I always find ”multitasking’ combined with small screens overrated.

True multitasking (for me), is with external monitors where each monitor is used full screen. All other multi window solutions are more multi distractions than multitasking in my view, at least on smaller screens (I’d say my 24” iMac is about as small as I would like to do decent multitasking on)
 
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Digitalguy

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I fully agree, although I always find ”multitasking’ combined with small screens overrated.

True multitasking (for me), is with external monitors where each monitor is used full screen. All other multi window solutions are more multi distractions than multitasking in my view, at least on smaller screens (I’d say my 24” iMac is about as small as I would like to do decent multitasking on)
that's exactly how I work too, multiple monitors (even small ones like tablets) but all at full screen. I hardly ever do any split screen on my 27in monitor, let alone on anything else unless I have no choice. For me multitaksing = taskbar.
 
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Pezimak

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Been waiting and waiting and waiting on the new iPad and my iPad mini is long in the tooth.

I have a Sammy galaxy 8 so after waiting and waiting and waiting I went to Sammy website today got a nice galaxy 9 ultra traded in my
lessor galaxy 8 tab. cost after trade in was 373 a few other credits and I spent under 333 for it.

Galaxy Tab S9 Ultra, 256GB, Beige (Wi-Fi)

Shipping:Get it by May 2
Savings
1234


$349.99

this is price with the trade in of the s8


have to thank apple for being so slow.

I will get a new iPad mini mini down the road.


I prefer my samsung 8 over my iPad mini and was not even thinking about trading up with it as it was working fine.

But to go to the larger screen more ram more storage and spend under 333 after my cc discount it is pretty much a no brainer.

when the mini does come out I will get it as I do like the small size of it.

As an opportunity to upgrade to a bigger screen, that was a great deal. Don’t blame you at all for going for that.
 

DeepSix

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OP you still have your S9 Ultra? If I was to get an Android tablet (s9 ultra because it's on a deep discount right now), it would be for one reason (well two but mainly one). The file management system.

File management on ipads makes me want to pull my hair out and I dread when Im on my ipad and want to save a file (usually PDF or jpeg). You can't even save an image or PDF properly in iOS without having to go into "my files" after and check where it saved (or if it even saved at all). 99% of the time, i have to save it 9 or 10 times before it actually shows up in my files. Such a massive waste of my time and so frustrating.

I will often just use my Samsung phone because it's no hassle and so much quicker. I think Im going to pull the trigger on this S9 Ultra just to try it out and see how I like it. And I don't know when the sale ends so I don't want to miss out.
 
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philipma1957

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OP you still have your S9 Ultra? If I was to get an Android tablet (s9 ultra because it's on a deep discount right now), it would be for one reason (well two but mainly one). The file management system.

File management on ipads makes me want to pull my hair out and I dread when Im on my ipad and want to save a file (usually PDF or jpeg). You can't even save an image or PDF properly in iOS without having to go into "my files" after and check where it saved (or if it even saved at all). 99% of the time, i have to save it 9 or 10 times before it actually shows up in my files. Such a massive waste of my time and so frustrating.

I will often just use my Samsung phone because it's no hassle and so much quicker. I think Im going to pull the trigger on this S9 Ultra just to try it out and see how I like it. And I don't know when the sale ends so I don't want to miss out.
it is. really good i still have it, but i am using my old ipad mini to type this. i have found i like the mini for blogs and forums and the sammy for netflix youtube and ebay listings. i sell on ebay so a photo with the sammy and moving it to an ebay listing is a lot easier to do then using my ipad mini.

at zombiepete the s9 ultra with the trade in was 375. I got a cc rebate I got a retailmenot discount I got some Samsung points bring me down to about 333 a really good deal.
 

DeepSix

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As you say depending what one uses an iPad for... For music, no question. For video editing? If your video editor it's lumafusion, no difference, other that better connection with your Samsung phone. For watching movies? If you want the largest tablet the ultra is on another league compared to iPad. To act as a montitor for Windows? Way better.
Most apps I use are equivalent, other than for music making/playing. Some are even better (I can use a full browser with any Chrome extension, not possible on iPad).
The main reason I like having an iPad is the aspect ratio and the better accessories (especially the keyboards). Other than for music, app difference is a non argument for me.

Started using Quick share since getting the S9 Ultra 11 days ago and it's awesome. Love it.

I love the iPads aspect ratio and I always found previous Galaxy tabs to be too narrow when used in portrait. But now I actually prefer the aspect ratio on the S9 Ultra over the iPad. The bigger screen really helps. You just see a lot more on the S9 U when in portrait mode than any iPad. It's night and day difference. Even in landscape, you see more on the S9 Ultra than any iPad. And the best part, no more bars on the Ultra.
 

Pezimak

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I upgraded the ipad mini 6 on monday. I have an ipad air 11 inch basic. still have the s9 ultra. I like both for different tasks.
The Mini is an awesome device, truly is, but it’s never going to get the Apple M chip which means it won’t get all apps and games or support. My M1 Pro will get all the AI features, all iPad OS 18 features and runs every game on the store. I think an iPad with the M chip is the way to go. I’ll get the new M4 Pro when I’ve got the money.
 

DeepSix

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The Mini is an awesome device, truly is, but it’s never going to get the Apple M chip which means it won’t get all apps and games or support. My M1 Pro will get all the AI features, all iPad OS 18 features and runs every game on the store. I think an iPad with the M chip is the way to go. I’ll get the new M4 Pro when I’ve got the money.

I just read it this morning, iPad mini 7 is coming and M5 iPad pro is already in production. I would think the mini 7 will have a M chip.
 

Pezimak

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I just read it this morning, iPad mini 7 is coming and M5 iPad pro is already in production. I would think the mini 7 will have a M chip.

Nope it never will, I don’t think it’s physically big enough. The M chip isn’t small for a mobile device. iPad Mini 7 is expected end of this year with an A series chip. And no the M5 iPad Pro is not in production, literally that would mean it would be launched by the end of the year, so they would only keep the M4 for half a year? No idea where you read that but it’s not accurate.
 

DeepSix

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Nope it never will, I don’t think it’s physically big enough. The M chip isn’t small for a mobile device. iPad Mini 7 is expected end of this year with an A series chip. And no the M5 iPad Pro is not in production, literally that would mean it would be launched by the end of the year, so they would only keep the M4 for half a year? No idea where you read that but it’s not accurate.


Better one

 

Pezimak

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Better one


That report stated the6 are being developed not in production. Big difference, don’t expect an M5 iPad till end of next year, as we’ve seen Apple seems to be in a 2 year cycle to refresh thr Pro line, so even end of next year breaks that pattern.
A new Mini is expected to be announced in September, best wait and see what it gets.
 

next_cube

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OP you still have your S9 Ultra? If I was to get an Android tablet (s9 ultra because it's on a deep discount right now), it would be for one reason (well two but mainly one). The file management system.

File management on ipads makes me want to pull my hair out and I dread when Im on my ipad and want to save a file (usually PDF or jpeg). You can't even save an image or PDF properly in iOS without having to go into "my files" after and check where it saved (or if it even saved at all). 99% of the time, i have to save it 9 or 10 times before it actually shows up in my files. Such a massive waste of my time and so frustrating.

I will often just use my Samsung phone because it's no hassle and so much quicker. I think Im going to pull the trigger on this S9 Ultra just to try it out and see how I like it. And I don't know when the sale ends so I don't want to miss out.
Couldn't agree more! File management is a mess on iPadOS and Mac OS. Hopefully Apple will give us more options down the road, so I can finally leave my MBP at home while travelling.
 
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philipma1957

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its why i got samsung s8 tablet. then the s9 ultra. it was better for the mobile work i do.

i liked the mini for blogging in bed . I am doing this right now with the new ipad air.

so sammy s8 to sammy ultra s9

and

ipad mini 6 to ipad air m2

very happy with the 2 upgrades.
 
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