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I won't get a MBA until Apple ships with 4GB memory as standard and..

HLdan said:
You're only look at it from "customer" standpoint. The new Macbook (based on your theory) is one machine that would slow people down from upgrading to Apple's next revision. You can upgrade the HDD, replace the battery and have up to 4GB of ram which is way more than most people need.
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I'm specifically referring to the MBA.
 
I am typing this on a new MacBook Air (while waiting for a PunkBuster update for CoD 4, and my FireWire HDDs are attached via USB (LaCie usually has both intefaces)).

You are not.
 
iomatic said:
I am typing this on a new MacBook Air (while waiting for a PunkBuster update for CoD 4, and my FireWire HDDs are attached via USB (LaCie usually has both intefaces)).
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yes, at a reduced USB speed. Nice.

Not. :D
 
For the way I use my MBA, I have not found the RAM (or the 4200HDD) to be that big of a bottleneck.

I think the processor will have to get a little beefier before the RAM needs to go up. It is always nice to have as much as possible, but after using netbooks for almost a year before getting an MBA, I have very fair expectations and have not been disappointed.

There is no way firewire is coming to the MBA. It would be nice to have a second USB port by the Magsafe port.
 
HLdan said:
and have up to 4GB of ram which is way more than most people need.
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False... anyone who ever runs Parallels or VMWare can use 4GB RAM. I think that is probably a majority of serious Mac users -- the people who are going to spend $1800-$2500 on an ultraportable instead of buying a cheap netbook.

Did it ever occur to you that the logic board (being as small as it is) could only support that much? Don't forget that Intel was a part of the logic board/chip design and most likely 2GB is that max that can be used in the current design.
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The Air uses 16 identical 128MB RAM chips. 256MB chips exist (hell, 512MB chips exist -- they're on your 4GB SODIMM) and could easily be substituted if Apple found it worthwhile. I find their decision not to at least sell a 4GB CTO configuration inexplicable. If they offer one within a reasonable timeframe, I'll buy an Air.
 
HLdan said:
The new Macbook is not only a perfect successor to the 12" Powerbook, it offers a heck of a lot more and is much closer to the Pro line than the 12" PB ever was.
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No, because it is larger, lacks FW and has a mirror screen.

Apart from that it seems to be very nice.
 
dal20402 said:
False... anyone who ever runs Parallels or VMWare can use 4GB RAM. I think that is probably a majority of serious Mac users -- the people who are going to spend $1800-$2500 on an ultraportable instead of buying a cheap netbook.
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Finally, someone who is a heavy/memory intensive user who actually gets it. I can max out 4GB RAM by just working on a large photoshop file, let alone all the other graphics heavy apps I use on a daily basis. Which is why I maxed my MBP17 to 6GB last week, and its been very effective performance wise by minimising and in some instances if I'm judicious about what I have open can completely avoid Page outs and swaps

I spent $4,045 on the latest 17 MBP CTO, and if there was a 12/13 MBP announced tomorrow, I'd order it on the spot too


The Air uses 16 identical 128MB RAM chips. 256MB chips exist (hell, 512MB chips exist -- they're on your 4GB SODIMM) and could easily be substituted if Apple found it worthwhile. I find their decision not to at least sell a 4GB CTO configuration inexplicable. If they offer one within a reasonable timeframe, I'll buy an Air.
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I would ACTUALLY be tempted if Apple did this (4GB option). And live with a USB to FW adapter.

And I noticed when I swapped out one of my 2GB sticks for the 4GB stick they were identical in physical size. So its completely feasible a 4GB chip can be installed in the MBA
 
NT1440 said:
sounds like OP is never buying a MBA
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I'll get one alright. WHEN Apple ships Rev C, D, or E with 4GB RAM+

I may never get one with FW. But I keep holding out they will release a 12/13 MBP
 
sparkie7 said:
I'll get one alright. WHEN Apple ships Rev C, D, or E with 4GB RAM+

I may never get one with FW. But I keep holding out they will release a 12/13 MBP
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Again, if your a POWER user, why are you considering an air?
 
NT1440 said:
if your a heavy user, why the hell are you considering a MBA?
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Because the CPU and GPU set up in Rev B is quite adequate now with V2.0. Just the RAM and connectivity.

The MBA's superlight and small foot print makes it perfect for pros that travel a lot
 
why does 4gb have to ship standard? why dont u just do it yourself?
 
NT1440 said:
why does 4gb have to ship standard? why dont u just do it yourself?
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because the 2GB RAM chip is SOLDERED on the motherboard (unlike the MB's and MBP's where the user can easily change them out). And I'm not about to try to take it out and solder a 4GB chip on. I wouldn't know where to start. Nor would I want to try to even attempt it
 
Yep. Maybe it helped Apple to keep the 'thin-ness' intact by doing this
 
It would have been nice if they used a single removable piece of RAM. I assumed they did not do so in order to have dual-channel memory for the integrated video.

Of course, 4GB would be great, but the RAM limit was not a deal-breaker for me considering the other hardware limits of the machine.

I use Windows in bootcamp because I was not even going to try a VM with the Air specs. I ended up having all kinds of issues in boot camp which is very frustrating, but at least it "works".
 
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