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maxsix

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I don't feel that iCloud is useless, but it is an example of how blatantly complacent Apple can be. They hype it up and act like it's a superior service to other clouds when it's not even close.
 
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Sorry to dig up this old thread but I thought it was worth pointing this out.

If you want to save a picture or a file to iCloud Drive then email it to yourself from the share sheet. When you receive the email (or for that matter any email from anywhere with an attachment) press and hold the attachment and in the share sheet is an option to save it to iCloud Drive, you can then choose your folder, etc

Bit of a workaround and obviously no good for hundreds of photos but it might help someone.
 

Pagemakers

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Sorry to dig up this old thread but I thought it was worth pointing this out.

If you want to save a picture or a file to iCloud Drive then email it to yourself from the share sheet. When you receive the email (or for that matter any email from anywhere with an attachment) press and hold the attachment and in the share sheet is an option to save it to iCloud Drive, you can then choose your folder, etc

Bit of a workaround and obviously no good for hundreds of photos but it might help someone.
Thanks for the workaround but why oh why can't apple just let us save our pics easily to the darn thing.
 
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jmantn

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So we have a new iCloud Drive icon. Big deal.

The service is as half baked now as the day it was released…

  1. I seem unable to send a photo to iCloud Drive from my camera roll. Though I’d use that to transfer between devices because Air Drop is so unreliable - but, no, seems it can’t be done.
  2. Some apps can save to ICD but not open from it.
  3. Some apps can open from ICD but not save to it.
  4. Office for iOS can save to ICD but only copy from it - not open the document just saved!
Why on earth didn’t Apple add ICD to the default share sheet.
While it's not what you're asking for or pointing out (I get it) I did want to recommend workflow for iOS as a powerful workaround.

You can create a workflow that will show in any apps share sheet and have it save anything to iCloud Drive.

That's just a drop in the bucket for what this app can do.
 
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Pagemakers

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what i dont like on apples approach is that instead of navigating and actually seeing the FILE you have to guess and hope a certain app can open a certain filetype instead. its so backwards. just show me all the files, let me click on it with a "open with" pop up
Please go and work for Apple!!! Why oh why can't they do this.
 

canesalato

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I don't know...so many things seems to be half made or poorly implemented in iOS lately...and Apple devices got more and more expansive lately, especially here in Europe. Most of the times when I point issue people just answer me: if you are not happy just switch to android...
I won't switch to android and yet, after 20 years, for the first time I am considering a microsoft device to replace my iPad...not excited about it...i just can't understand why my iPad has to be so much harder to use than my MacBook Air. It was supposed to be easier!
 

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It's seems lately that everything almost just works. A little bit more thought and real-time use by the developers and iOS would be a much better product. iCloud Drive, 3D Touch, Air Drop, Share Sheets, etc etc
 

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i dont think most people even know this exists. also extensions adoption seems to be almost non existing when it comes to photo filters within the default photo app. I have 10+ photo apps installed and none support the extension to use them right within the default photo app
 
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KALLT

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what i dont like on apples approach is that instead of navigating and actually seeing the FILE you have to guess and hope a certain app can open a certain filetype instead. its so backwards. just show me all the files, let me click on it with a "open with" pop up

But that’s precisely the philosophy they adhere to. You think in terms of a desktop file system, but Apple has traditionally not liked that paradigm and refuses to let it slip into iOS for that reason. The idea is that an application manages its own files, just as Mail, Calendar, Contacts and Messages already do. It’s the core of the iOS user experience and I wouldn’t hold my breath.

That is also why iCloud Drive on iOS is ‘crippled’. It is not supposed to be a file manager, it is a file picker that appears when you need to retrieve a file. The only reason why the icon can be enabled is because some people would like to manage the iCloud Drive on their phones too, but it is in essence still a file picker.
 

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But that’s precisely the philosophy they adhere to. You think in terms of a desktop file system, but Apple has traditionally not liked that paradigm and refuses to let it slip into iOS for that reason. The idea is that an application manages its own files, just as Mail, Calendar, Contacts and Messages already do. It’s the core of the iOS user experience and I wouldn’t hold my breath.

That is also why iCloud Drive on iOS is ‘crippled’. It is not supposed to be a file manager, it is a file picker that appears when you need to retrieve a file. The only reason why the icon can be enabled is because some people would like to manage the iCloud Drive on their phones too, but it is in essence still a file picker.

but its sooooo confusing like

where is the original file?
do i change the original file if i edit it in an app?
does it simply make a copy of the file?
how can i delete it in one app without erasing it everywhere?
can i see the changes i make with one app in another app?

its a whole clusterf to me
 

KALLT

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but its sooooo confusing like

where is the original file?
do i change the original file if i edit it in an app?
does it simply make a copy of the file?
how can i delete it in one app without erasing it everywhere?
can i see the changes i make with one app in another app?

its a whole clusterf to me

I agree. I accept this on an iPhone, but I can’t accept this on an iPad. That Apple thinks this suffices for the iPad Pro is really just sad, when Microsoft is brining desktop class applications to its tablet/laptop combos.
 

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All they need is a "bucket" to save and open files. Gees, how hard can it be. iCloud Drive is a total mess as it stands.
 

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Actually in iOS 9 apps can open files from iCloud Drive directly, without making a copy (that's why it says "Copy to App" now if the app cannot open the file directly). But a lot of apps doesn't show the difference between a file saved locally and a file saved in iCloud Drive, so it's even more confusing.
 

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Sorry to dig up this old thread but I thought it was worth pointing this out.

If you want to save a picture or a file to iCloud Drive then email it to yourself from the share sheet. When you receive the email (or for that matter any email from anywhere with an attachment) press and hold the attachment and in the share sheet is an option to save it to iCloud Drive, you can then choose your folder, etc

Bit of a workaround and obviously no good for hundreds of photos but it might help someone.

I also use the Share Sheet when selection more then 10+ photos in the Photos app but use the e-mail app Spark then to get those images as attachments in an e-mail and then choose within Spark to save to e.g. iCloud Drive, Dropbox or Google Drive.

While it's not what you're asking for or pointing out (I get it) I did want to recommend workflow for iOS as a powerful workaround.

You can create a workflow that will show in any apps share sheet and have it save anything to iCloud Drive.

That's just a drop in the bucket for what this app can do.

Workflow is indeed an amazing app but it a bit difficult to understand for many users.

I'd need more than 6 reviews to spend £2.99 on an app I don't really understand. Thanks for the heads up though.

I found ways in iOS to use great free apps which can help out in a few tasks which Apple lacks in their own apps:

Documents 5: browse to a website and download a file (e.g. PDF)
Spark (iPhone) / CloudMagic (because there isn't yet an iPad version of Spark i use CloudMagic instead) - great ways to add multiple attachments at once (Spark only) to a cloud storage (like iCloud Drive, Dropbox, Google Drive). You can also easily attach on the iPhone just by simply pressing the paperclip icon instead of this Apple solution on the iPhone.

Launcher widget (free, but with in-app purchase a lot better - great way for quickly accessing e.g. specific Settings, send a standard (predefined) e-mail/iMessage/WhatsApp message.
Launch Center Pro - also excellent for certain actions but is a bit more difficult to use (costs 2,99 dollar)
 
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