iCloud mail, silent spam filtering, and reliability

[AGX]

Nothing, i tried again to submit an email that contain scom.org.uk and it never arrived.

I discovered that is not a problem with the website.

But there is a problem with the word SCOM.ORG.UK

When you write an email that contain this word as simple text, not URL... they never arrive

 

[exi]

Plot thickens.

While testing EAS and Outlook.com, I decided to test this whole mess again.

Sending FROM an external domain TO iCloud with a body containing "scom.org" continues to be received by iCloud. But, I've newly noticed that sending FROM iCloud TO an external domain is never received by the external domain.

Ridiculous. I'd love to stay all on one service, but the unreliability bothers me. At least do what Gmail and others seem to do and tend towards delivering to spam folders if any doubt. Yes, I get that all services silent filter. We're talking degree.

As mentioned earlier, Outlook.com (pre-Exchange / Office 365 migration) was a little heavyhanded at times. With the new infrastructure, I wonder if it's comparable to Google as regards reliability in sending/receiving.

 

[Maki Roc]

Plot thickens.

While testing EAS and Outlook.com, I decided to test this whole mess again.

Sending FROM an external domain TO iCloud with a body containing "scom.org" continues to be received by iCloud.

But, I've newly noticed that sending FROM iCloud TO an external domain is never received by the external domain.

Outlook.com is also known to have silent filtering, but it could be that iCloud's outgoing filter is stopping that mail from delivery. They don't want shady mail to bring down their IP reputation

 

[exi]

Outlook.com is also known to have silent filtering, but it could be that iCloud's outgoing filter is stopping that mail from delivery. They don't want shady mail to bring down their IP reputation

Apple's outgoing filter is my guess. If only I didn't have to bring a custom domain to use Google Apps, at this point, barring knowing what Outlook.com's filtering is like (on Office 365), I'd probably just do that.

 

[steve-w55]

Received a 'phone call from support today to say the scom.org filter has finally been removed.
The problem is that they don't accept there is anything wrong with the way the mail filtering works...

 

[exi]

Received a 'phone call from support today to say the scom.org filter has finally been removed.
The problem is that they don't accept there is anything wrong with the way the mail filtering works...

Thanks for posting back and updating us. Good to, and frustrating to, hear.

Rooting for Microsoft to get EAS working with Outlook.com as far as read statuses are concerned. Then it's them or Gmail. (And as soon as I do that, out will come this great iCloud Mail update...)

 

[steve-w55]

Thanks for posting back and updating us. Good to, and frustrating to, hear.

Rooting for Microsoft to get EAS working with Outlook.com as far as read statuses are concerned. Then it's them or Gmail. (And as soon as I do that, out will come this great iCloud Mail update...)

It's a bit of work but I run my own mail server.

 

[exi]

I posted this in the other mail thread, but I wanted to ask here for the people who are reading / participated in only this thread.

One item for debate: is Outlook.com, post-migration, as reliable as Gmail as far as counting on mail to arrive and not "silently filtering" as has been iCloud's issue?

Ask because I've been able to find some talk of similar problems with Outlook.com.

 

[\-V-/]

I have been using iCloud exclusively for email since back when it was called dotmac then later MobileMe and I have never once had a false positive block an email (that I know of). Once in a while a spam message gets through and I forward it to spam@icloud.com and they stop.

No complaints here.

I never knew about that. Thank you. I get less spam in my iCloud e-mail than I do any of my other e-mails though.

 

[exi]

This is my own thread from 12/2013. I've been using Fastmail for about a year now and definitely enjoy it -- if anyone comes across this with the same annoyances, it's worth a shot. It's home to my mail, notes, contacts, reminders, and calendars, all formerly on iCloud, which now only hosts photos, Safari, and passwords.

Just curious if the MR community is still having issues with "silent filtering" as was an issue from time to time or if there has been any appreciable change with iCloud mail. I'd still love having one platform, but only if it's actually a reliable platform.

 

[notabot]

This is my own thread from 12/2013. I've been using Fastmail for about a year now and definitely enjoy it -- if anyone comes across this with the same annoyances, it's worth a shot. It's home to my mail, notes, contacts, reminders, and calendars, all formerly on iCloud, which now only hosts photos, Safari, and passwords.

Just curious if the MR community is still having issues with "silent filtering" as was an issue from time to time or if there has been any appreciable change with iCloud mail. I'd still love having one platform, but only if it's actually a reliable platform.

I recently tried switching over my email to iCloud but ran into all the same issues. I had my gmail forwarding to iCloud and noticed not all messages would reach iCloud. These were innocent messages, such as bank statements, bills, etc. All the messages you can't afford to miss. At first I thought maybe it was gmail that was the issue, so I started forwarding my gmail to outlook.com and during that time I never once missed a message from the forwarding. So I guess iCloud has some serious issues. It's great for everything else. I love my calendar and contacts being on it. But for email it's a no-go for me.

 

[fastbagger]

I recently tried switching over my email to iCloud but ran into all the same issues. I had my gmail forwarding to iCloud and noticed not all messages would reach iCloud. These were innocent messages, such as bank statements, bills, etc. All the messages you can't afford to miss. At first I thought maybe it was gmail that was the issue, so I started forwarding my gmail to outlook.com and during that time I never once missed a message from the forwarding. So I guess iCloud has some serious issues. It's great for everything else. I love my calendar and contacts being on it. But for email it's a no-go for me.

Yeah I would love to use iCloud email as my daily driver but cannot due to these reasons.