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iDemocracy - (Mostly) Automated Jailbreak + 3rd Party Apps on iPhone 1.1.1 (Windows)

I had the same issue as AutoArt (can't get past the Activation screen), and I tried to use the new iDemocracy/Activation/YouTube fix posted this morning.

At first I thought it had worked - i.e. all the dialogs came up saying that everything was proceeding correctly:

"Ssh connection established"
"Old lockdownd backed up"
"Patched lockdownd uploaded"
"Killall binary uploaded"
"Permissions on killall corrected"
"Lockdownd resetting. Your iPhone should activate now, or after a reboot"

and this was after an initial dialog told me that "Ssh: connection timed out", but it still doesn't activate. I did a test where I tried the app again, but this time, I turned off my iPhone. As I expected, all the same dialogs came up saying its successful. I think what's going on is that i can't establish an SSH connection, but then it goes on to tell me that everything is working, when each step is really timing out because of the network error.

I think there needs to be some error checking after each step :eek: I think i'm actually not even able to get a network connection.

That made me realize, why do i think there is even an SSH daemon running on my iphone? When I downgraded from 1.1.1 to 1.02, I installed Installer.app, and the BSD sources and OpenSSH like suggested, but isn't the SSH the client program? I'm not sure there is an SSH server running on the iphone, which would render an SSH session into the iphone useless.

I'm kind of curious about AutoArt's successful attempt to get the new lockdownd into his iPhone. He used WinSCP, which used the SCP protocol into his phone. That seems like something that would be more readily available on the iPhone than SSH. Just a thought ....

Squid
 
I have manually TWICE gone through the downgrade/upgrade procedure and done the jailbreak and activation manually.

This was BEFORE this brilliant GUI came out and on both occasions I had problems with the Jailbreak and NOT activation.

They DevTeam website has instructions on how to activate and it now involves simply putting a patched 1.1.1 lockdownd file on the phone and it should work.

I used the online activation method and the first time I tried it everything worked and the second time YouTube did NOT work - I did a search on the forums for a way to get it working in 1.1.1 and it involved copying some files to my iphone which were next to the lockdownd file and everything worked after that!

So to be fair if you are really having problems with activation I would simply head over to the devteam page and follow that - the activation procedure involves using WinSCP to copy the lockdownd file thats all! so its not complicated and although a totally automated method would be even better (and it may well be fixed by now) if you do get he JB done I would NOT give up at the activation stage.

As I said the activation stage was the easiest of all to get working - the brunt of the idemocracy app - the command line and putty etc that was the hard bit!
 
Maybe I should be more specific about the issue. I can't connect to my iphone via WinSCP (SFTP or SCP) to do the lockdownd overload.

I did the "*#307#" trick to make sure WiFi was enabled and that I had an IP, but I still get a network connection timeout problem.

Did you have to install anything special on the iphone in oder for the WinSCP client to connect? When I downgraded to 1.0.2, I was able to install OpenSSH and BSD tools via Installer.app.

Thanks,
Squid
 
squidboy said:
Maybe I should be more specific about the issue. I can't connect to my iphone via WinSCP (SFTP or SCP) to do the lockdownd overload.

I did the "*#307#" trick to make sure WiFi was enabled and that I had an IP, but I still get a network connection timeout problem.

Did you have to install anything special on the iphone in oder for the WinSCP client to connect? When I downgraded to 1.0.2, I was able to install OpenSSH and BSD tools via Installer.app.

Thanks,
Squid
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I did my second 1.1.1 phone and ran into some other problems. For some reason this one wasn't acting like the one before. The first time I tried to do my second phone it didn't run into error messages when iDemocracy said I would. Despite all of it I continued through the process and when I finished everything it only had 300 megs of memory. So of course I re-formated the phone and re-tried the process and it worked out fine. I'm not saying that this is your problem, I'm just saying this for other people that have ran into this problem along the way, don't be discouraged and just re-try it.

Now, I think I know what your problem is. At what step do you try to connect to the phone with winscp?? Because I would replace the lockdown file at step 9 since you don't need to actually use the phone itself until that step. By the way your IP address shouldn't change from when you were 1.0.2 so you don't always need to be checking the IP with the *#307# method. Maybe check it once when you updated to 1.1.1, but after that it shouldn't change. Hopefully that will help because I think I had the same problem until I went all the way to step 9 because at step 6 you re-install ssh, installer, and bsd so your phone can connect again. Hope that helps =]
 
Hey guys,

I keep getting stuck on the symlink step and don't know what to do to get past it:

"an unknown error occurred in applying the Symlink, possibly related to permissions or missing files. Reinstall this app, make sure your iPhone is plugged in, and try again."

Ideas?
 
Orwell - I got that symlink error as well. I just forgot to make sure that wifi was enabled on the phone before hitting the 'symlink' button. The next time around, I ssh'ed to the iphone via putty to make sure I could get to it before doing the symlink again.


AutoArt - You are replacing the lockdownd file at Step #9?? Step 9 is still dealing with the 1.0.2 firmware. You must be thinking I'm trying to get by the first Activation during the 1.0.2 restore. That step went flawless for me. I briefly saw the activation screen, but iTunes recognized the phone and asked if I wanted to restore my software and it did the activation. I said yes, and it activated the phone and proceeded to put all my 1.0.2 stuff back on my phone.

What I am talking about is activation after the symlink hack is applied and 1.1.1 is restored. Once 1.1.1 is restored, the iphone reboots, and that's when i hit the activation "wall."

Something kind of bugs me though. After the 1.1.1 update, I have a factory-fresh 1.1.1 phone with the symlink hack. At that point, should i be able to ssh or WinSCP into the phone? I wouldn't think so since the BSD tools and OpenSSH are no longer there (from teh 1.0.2 install). None of those tools are there, so I shouldn't be able to connect to the phone .... right? :rolleyes:

So what you are saying is that the lockdownd file should be patched back during the 1.0.2 restore?? Would that get me past the 1.1.1 activation problem? I would think not because when 1.1.1 is installed, wouldn't that blow away everything I did during 1.0.2?

Now I'm confused ....

Squid
 
squidboy said:
Orwell - I got that symlink error as well. I just forgot to make sure that wifi was enabled on the phone before hitting the 'symlink' button. The next time around, I ssh'ed to the iphone via putty to make sure I could get to it before doing the symlink again.


AutoArt - You are replacing the lockdownd file at Step #9?? Step 9 is still dealing with the 1.0.2 firmware. You must be thinking I'm trying to get by the first Activation during the 1.0.2 restore. That step went flawless for me. I briefly saw the activation screen, but iTunes recognized the phone and asked if I wanted to restore my software and it did the activation. I said yes, and it activated the phone and proceeded to put all my 1.0.2 stuff back on my phone.

What I am talking about is activation after the symlink hack is applied and 1.1.1 is restored. Once 1.1.1 is restored, the iphone reboots, and that's when i hit the activation "wall."

Something kind of bugs me though. After the 1.1.1 update, I have a factory-fresh 1.1.1 phone with the symlink hack. At that point, should i be able to ssh or WinSCP into the phone? I wouldn't think so since the BSD tools and OpenSSH are no longer there (from teh 1.0.2 install). None of those tools are there, so I shouldn't be able to connect to the phone .... right? :rolleyes:

So what you are saying is that the lockdownd file should be patched back during the 1.0.2 restore?? Would that get me past the 1.1.1 activation problem? I would think not because when 1.1.1 is installed, wouldn't that blow away everything I did during 1.0.2?

Now I'm confused ....

Squid
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Okay, I think you mis-understood me. Step 9 is the last step of the whole entire process. I'm not talking about step 9 of step 1 of the overall process, I'm talking about being at step 9 in the overall process, i.e. step 9 out of 10 right next to the progress bar.

step9.jpg


sorry for the crappy photoshop lol, but get to that step and then try connecting through winscp.
 
Thanks for the clarification - I noticed right after I posted that the word "Step" is used in two different contexts in iDemocracy. Now I know what you mean :D - great photoshop image BTW :)

Ok, i think i'm understanding what you are staying - still, I can't get past 1.1.1 activation. I was just perusing the idemocracy issues pages and apparently there is an issue where there are 2 SSHD daemons running on the iphone (dropbear sshd is installed by idemocracy). That's a bad situation where you have 2 servers vying to listen at port 22. I'm wondering if that's the issue?? I couldn't discern where in the process that's happening, so i'm just speculating.

Squid
 
squidboy said:
Thanks for the clarification - I noticed right after I posted that the word "Step" is used in two different contexts in iDemocracy. Now I know what you mean :D - great photoshop image BTW :)

Ok, i think i'm understanding what you are staying - still, I can't get past 1.1.1 activation. I was just perusing the idemocracy issues pages and apparently there is an issue where there are 2 SSHD daemons running on the iphone (dropbear sshd is installed by idemocracy). That's a bad situation where you have 2 servers vying to listen at port 22. I'm wondering if that's the issue?? I couldn't discern where in the process that's happening, so i'm just speculating.

Squid
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You don't need to get past the activation until step 9 so it shouldn't even matter. You don't need to use your phone until that point. I would just recommend restoring your phone to 1.1.1 at this point and then starting over from step 1, downgrading to 1.0.2 and so on. After you update your phone to 1.1.1 don't worry about getting past activation until step 9. When you get to step 9 try connecting to it through winscp and uploading lockdown. After you upload lockdown restore your phone and finish off the steps on step 9. Hope I helped :)
 
Hi all,
Sorry I haven't been by to answer questions. I just don't have any time :)
Do NOT download the activator until I release the new version in a little while which will use CARNAVAL to activate and patch youtube.
As for the issues some people have with timeout errors from putty... I can't find why this happens to some. You're either not connected to WiFi or you didn't input your IP address correctly or SSH didn't install properly.
Please continue to send your feedback and donations.
Thank you all.
Drakenza
 
AutoArt said:
You don't need to get past the activation until step 9 so it shouldn't even matter. You don't need to use your phone until that point. I would just recommend restoring your phone to 1.1.1 at this point and then starting over from step 1, downgrading to 1.0.2 and so on. After you update your phone to 1.1.1 don't worry about getting past activation until step 9. When you get to step 9 try connecting to it through winscp and uploading lockdown. After you upload lockdown restore your phone and finish off the steps on step 9. Hope I helped :)
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Hmmm - that's an interesting point. I re-read the instructions from steps 3-9 and it appears that you are right: i don't necessarily *need* to get past activation to continue the steps. However .... there is a bigger issue here.

The reason activation is failing (for me anyways) is that I cannot get a network connection to the phone via WiFI. WiFI is enabled and the IP is assigned, but I keep getting a "connection refused" error. I get this regardless of what SSH client I use (e.g. tried Putty, WinSCP, and pline). Otherwise, I could have just patched the lockdownd file manually and activated the iphone myself.

If I'm reading steps 3-9 correctly, it appears that just about every step requires that a network connection to the iphone be available for files to be copied, commands to be remotely executed, etc.

I want to do a little digging into Carneval to see what that is - if its another app that requires a network connection in order to work properly, then I'm still hosed.

Squid
 
So I've preped my Iphone for Stage 2. I get to the Symlink Exploit (iTunes open, both computer and iPhone well connected to the internet), fill in the iPhone's IP address (xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx, and of course clearing the field of "IP address" in the application so I can type the numbers in the text field), and click the Symlink (ONCE!).

I get a black windows popped up (different than terminal), it pauses for 10 seconds, and I receive another popup "PuTTY Fatal Error-Network Error: Connection Timed out"

Any Ideas?

Edit: After I close the TTY window I get a black blank terminal screen. Nothing happens for awhile so I close it & get the popup "An unknown error has occurred in applying the Symlink, possibly related to permissions or missing files. Reinstall your app, make sure your iPhone is plugged in, and try again"

Edit 2:Thought this would help: http://code.google.com/p/idemocracy/issues/detail?id=19 . Didn't help for me in which order I downloaded them :(
 
how to do the activation? with new phone w/o AT&T sim

hi autoart,

what software you use to activate your new iphone without AT&T sim and still use idemocracy for jailbreak and unlock?

AutoArt said:
After lots and lots of research I finally figured out how to get passed the activation. I now have a fully functionaly 1.1.1 phone! Thank you very much!! I will be donating to you very soon, your program is awesome!!
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Hi everyone,
A quick update:
iDemocracy Activator has now been updated to 1.3, which has been confirmed working for Firmwares 1.1.1 and 1.0.2, as long as your iPhone is Jailbroken (and in the case of 1.1.1, Read-Writeable-Forced).
The iDemocracy page has been rewritten to make it easier to understand as well.
Also, work has begun on iDemocracy 1.2 which will include a number of new features. It will likely release in November. There might be a Beta/ReleaseCandidate release before then, so keep watching the Google Code site.
If you're interested in the latest news and fixes, I suggest you watch the iDemocracy thread on ModMyiPhone.com (link on the iDemocracy site), as I am on there more often and it is more frequently updated.
Thank you all for your interest.

Drakenza
 
Hi am just asking for clarification.
In read me for idemocracy it says :

Please DO NOT use this software on an unlocked iPhone!! If your iPhone is unlocked for non-AT&T SIM cards, iTunes will very likely brick it during the upgrade/downgrade process.

I have an unlocked 1.0.2 phone and is there any solution for me to upgrade 1.1.1.
It seems idemocracy is not capable of it.:confused:

Thanks...
 
As far as i know from 1.0.2 unlocked to 1.1.1 is easily done with independence on MAC OS X.
For windows systems i know idemocracy is around.But the above statement i posted is confusing me.

Can someone at least confirm me is this possible via idemocracy
From 1.0.2 already ulocked jailbreaked to 1.1.1???
 
deusex2500 said:
As far as i know from 1.0.2 unlocked to 1.1.1 is easily done with independence on MAC OS X.
For windows systems i know idemocracy is around.But the above statement i posted is confusing me.

Can someone at least confirm me is this possible via idemocracy
From 1.0.2 already ulocked jailbreaked to 1.1.1???
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Hell, I can't get past step 2 on a AT&T(locked) phone! Not even the fix (that I'm PRETTY sure is supposed to fix something related to installer.app) can work for me.
 
Thanks Drakenza for all your hard work. I saw you had posted a fix for the activation problem, but I never got around to trying it. The one-step AppSnap (www.jailbreakme.com) 1.1.1 jailbreak solution was posted a day after I started to run into problems with iDemocracy and so I decided to give it a try. All I can say is Wow - I have never seen something work so cleanly and effortlessly.

Squid
 
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