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If a RevD MBA is $3000, what are your minimum feasible specs or would you never pay?
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and yet many are buying the Sony Vaio Z series for more than $3k - go figure
That's because a Vaio Z is worth $3k.
If an MBA had the specs in a $3k Vaio Z, then it would cost $6k. Doubt many people would pay that.
With the Vaio, you actually get your $3k worth.
Total lunacy!
Hours after my first post, and still there are 30% of the respondents that would open their wallets and pay an obscene $3k.
Don't get me wrong, I can easily afford it, but why?
Hello people, is that all you have to do with your money?
Don't look now, but Creepy Uncle Steve has a hold on you....
Hours after my first post, and still there are 30% of the respondents that would open their wallets and pay an obscene $3k.
Don't get me wrong, I can easily afford it, but why?
Hello people, is that all you have to do with your money?
Don't look now, but Creepy Uncle Steve has a hold on you....
Total lunacy!
Hours after my first post, and still there are 30% of the respondents that would open their wallets and pay an obscene $3k.
Don't get me wrong, I can easily afford it, but why?
Hello people, is that all you have to do with your money?
Don't look now, but Creepy Uncle Steve has a hold on you....
A couple years ago I might've, but now I look at the thousands of dollars worth of Apple crap I've wasted money on, and I think I've given Apple and Steve more than enough money for sub-par products; even if they aren't subpar, I'd rather not keep funneling into a $40B company, and funnel the money towards myself.
The above aside, I won't give Apple another dime until they can prove they can make a reliable computer after what a pile of junk my last MBP turned out to be.
Comparing the low-level Vaio Z (probably previous generation by now, I've done this a few months back) to the top MBA rev C you got the same spec for the same price.
Why, that they're not charging $6K for something Sony charges $3K for.
Oh, and that they allowed the MBA to get rather outdated, but no-one ever denied that.
Personally-speaking, Cnet's news of a possibly "significantly lower"-priced MBA is a little disappointing.
I would personally certainly buy a $3000 MBA if it had, for example:
Top of the range LV/ULV Core i7 or Sandy Bridge (if available)
ATI graphics (i'd possibly even get it without discrete graphics)
Better cooling than Rev C MBA (this is important, however I'd probably settle for similar temps to current model)
256GB SSD or more
4-8GB RAM
IPS Screen
Better battery life (to whatever degree)
Glass trackpad
Integrated 3g or LTE
USB 3.0
No heavier than current model
Stunning design (I'd consider the current MBA to be stunning. This feature is a must, otherwise I'd definitely not buy)
Those would probably be the minimum specs, not exclusively, for me to fork out $3000 on an MBA. Of course I wouldn't say no to more/better specs
Does anyone expect Apple to craft those specs into an overhauled MBA?
They will be disappointed, very disappointed.
I'd never pay $ 3k ( overhere) for a laptop. I probably would buy a full featured (SSD, 8 GB) i7 15" MBP if I had the money, but for the moment I only have to wait and see what Apple comes up with on Wednesday.
When my Wind U100 (with Leopard 10.5.8) eventually dies, I will consider buying a sub $1000 11.6" Air if by that time they can craft enough power in it (which rev A I higly doubt will) with a decent battery life (80% of what my MBP lasts would be sweet).
Cheers.
P.S: My MPB has never left my desk and my U100 (original Atom with a 9 cells aftermarket battery suits my portability needs pretty well).
I think the thing is, in my experience, BTO options are rarely worth the money. Granted, this is a general statement, but it seems when MacWorld benchmarks BTO systems, I always come to the conclusion the speed increases are not worth the money.
RAM can be an important upgrade, but everyone in this forum can do that themselves. I don't think paying a super premium for a SSD makes sense yet, since the tech is evolving rapidly.
To me, slight processor upgrades are the biggest "sucker" upgrade Apple has going. They are totally overpriced for the performance increase. But GPUs are the one area I'm willing to plunk down.
I guess my general point, CaoCao, is I don't feel like it generally makes sense to do a bunch of BTO options.
If the RAM is soldered on it will be worth it, HR-AG IMO is worth it too, 256GB SSD knowing Apple it could be soldered on or custom
I see. "Apple tax" is money that fans who only have more money than sense because they have no sense publicly declare they would pay for hypothetical products that Apple isn't going to build. "Microsoft tax" on the other hand is what real people with no intent of owning Microsoft products were forced to pay because Microsoft blackmailed all the PC makers into contracts where you had to pay for Windows on a computer even if you didn't want it.
Since the courts decided that the Microsoft tax is illegal, Microsoft had to invent the "Apple tax".
Well, that's certainly true about the RAM limitation. And the other 256 GB SSDs have come to a more reasonable price point lately. BTO is probably more important in the MBA than other machines.
I have to ask, what is HR-AG?
Bri
I spent 2400 on my Rev b.
However we all know that when the specs arrive there will be 1, 2 or 3 missing needs that will arrive next year that will tick us all off. That is how they roll, we know it and will pay for it anyway.
Be that as it may, no- I'm not prepared to pay 3k for all the above, however I am ready and will be buying it Day one if it comes in the 13.3 variety, along with 4g ram, 128 min SSD, and 7+ battery....
I will spend at least 2k I think. Then I hand my current down to my wife, and sell her MB.
AMEX on stand by...
However we all know that when the specs arrive there will be 1, 2 or 3 missing needs that will arrive next year that will tick us all off. That is how they roll, we know it and will pay for it anyway.
Be that as it may, no- I'm not prepared to pay 3k for all the above, however I am ready and will be buying it Day one if it comes in the 13.3 variety, along with 4g ram, 128 min SSD, and 7+ battery....
I will spend at least 2k I think. Then I hand my current down to my wife, and sell her MB.
AMEX on stand by...
I want a computer that doesn't self destruct after the warranty ends, my cousin says Macs are long lived (he still uses his PowerBook G3 Pismo occasionally
)PS HR-AG is High Resolution-Anti Glare
I want a computer that doesn't self destruct after the warranty ends, my cousin says Macs are long lived (he still uses his PowerBook G3 Pismo occasionally
PS HR-AG is High Resolution-Anti Glare
Ah. Yeah, that upgrade was beyond worth it for my 15 inch MBP i7. But, that was a model that was available in stores. If it's available, it would be an automatic purchase, I agree.
Bri
The pricepoint is too high, resulting in a niche product. Exactly opposite of what they're likely to do.
For $3000 it would need to have impossible specs.
Hexcore i7
8gb ram, upgradable to 16gb
dual 512gb ssd's (6Gb/s) with hardware raid 0
blu ray
4g
light peak ports
dual mini-dp ports (that can drive a 30")
and a 24hour battery with built in solar charging or inductive charging
and weigh less than 2Lbs
Like I said, Impossible and I still wouldn't pay it.
Hexcore i7
8gb ram, upgradable to 16gb
dual 512gb ssd's (6Gb/s) with hardware raid 0
blu ray
4g
light peak ports
dual mini-dp ports (that can drive a 30")
and a 24hour battery with built in solar charging or inductive charging
and weigh less than 2Lbs
Like I said, Impossible and I still wouldn't pay it.
Thank you! I am very happy to hear that I was wrong. That gives me hope that Apple may indeed still offer BTO options for the new MBA with the high end components that I want.
How about dual hexacore i7s, 12GB RAM standard (upgradable to 192GB), 6 displayports for eyefinity, -1" thick, and -3lbs? It'll be a Mac Pro to go and won't weigh a ton
On a side note, I paid approximately $3k for my MBP (see sig) + Intel SSD.
And why not add openCL female comment de-mystifier algorithm? I'd pay 5k for that with astonishing velocity. Or how about a depression-sensor-tripped nostalgia mode activator which senses your tears on the trackpad in the absence of any normally upsetting screen content and pumps out mp3s of snes games and parental vocal-wavelength reassurance at the same time as beaming onto all walls of your room projections of the inner lining of the uterus forcing you into regression and reprogramming?How about dual hexacore i7s, 12GB RAM standard (upgradable to 192GB), 6 displayports for eyefinity, -1" thick, and -3lbs? It'll be a Mac Pro to go and won't weigh a ton
I think this thread is again setting a lot of people up for disappointment.
I don't think Apple is going to offer a $3K MBA, no matter how many hundreds of people want them.
The RevB MBA that everyone pines about "the good 'ol days" over was $2499, but at that point the 17" MBP (Arguably Apple's other "Premium" Mac Portable) was $2799.
Fast-forward to today - and the 17" MBP is now $2299.
I could *maybe* see a MBA reach $2499 with a bunch of BTO stuff like SSD, etc... added.
IF (and that's a big if) you guys are hoping for BTO - which I again don't see as likely given that the RAM has traditionally been soldered and the new rumours suggest the SSD may now be integrated as well - that reaches $3K, then go to town. I don't see a store sticker price of $3K, not when the 17" MBP is $2,299.
I don't think Apple is going to offer a $3K MBA, no matter how many hundreds of people want them.
The RevB MBA that everyone pines about "the good 'ol days" over was $2499, but at that point the 17" MBP (Arguably Apple's other "Premium" Mac Portable) was $2799.
Fast-forward to today - and the 17" MBP is now $2299.
I could *maybe* see a MBA reach $2499 with a bunch of BTO stuff like SSD, etc... added.
IF (and that's a big if) you guys are hoping for BTO - which I again don't see as likely given that the RAM has traditionally been soldered and the new rumours suggest the SSD may now be integrated as well - that reaches $3K, then go to town. I don't see a store sticker price of $3K, not when the 17" MBP is $2,299.
Time machine+accident/theft insurance (State Farm does a year for $60!)
Even desktops can't match that you know that right?