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Which base upgrade would you want for free?

  • 720p webcam --> 1080p

    Votes: 5 5.7%
  • 8GB RAM --> 16GB

    Votes: 57 64.8%
  • 256GB SSD --> 512GB

    Votes: 19 21.6%
  • Something else. Reply below.

    Votes: 7 8.0%

  • Total voters
    88

senttoschool

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Original poster
Nov 2, 2017
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Out of curiosity, which would you rather have?

We hear a lot of complaints about the 720p webcam, but do people really care?
 

russell_314

macrumors 604
Feb 10, 2019
6,665
10,266
USA
Most small laptops have a 720P webcam. A better webcam would be nice but at best it’ll be slightly better because the limitations of the lid thickness.

More storage is always useful
 
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pshufd

macrumors G4
Oct 24, 2013
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I would be happy to pay for all of these as options or as standard. I don't do a lot of videoconferencing these days but it would be nice to have the option.
 

OldMike

macrumors 6502a
Mar 3, 2009
537
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Dallas, TX
I would also 100% say 16GB RAM.

I'm not necessarily saying it should be included in the base model, because it is not uncommon to still see 8GB RAM / 256GB SSD offered in the industry.

I do think, however, that the upgraded stock model that comes with 512GB SSD should also include 16GB RAM for the $200 up charge.
 

turbineseaplane

macrumors P6
Mar 19, 2008
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I do think, however, that the upgraded stock model that comes with 512GB SSD should also include 16GB RAM for the $200 up charge.

Spot on..
That first upgrade stock model (8gb/512gb) is awful value for that extra $200.

It nets you - only - 256gb more storage for $200
That has to be one of the worst upgrade values anywhere in their lineup I'd imagine.

$200 more for 16/512 (vs 8/256) would be a no brainer and good deal.
As it is - honestly sort of a ripoff on that particular $200 bump.
 

emac82

macrumors 6502
Feb 17, 2007
461
25
Atlantic Canada
Spot on..
That first upgrade stock model (8gb/512gb) is awful value for that extra $200.

It nets you - only - 256gb more storage for $200
That has to be one of the worst upgrade values anywhere in their lineup I'd imagine.

$200 more for 16/512 (vs 8/256) would be a no brainer and good deal.
As it is - honestly sort of a ripoff on that particular $200 bump.
I agree - it's a shame they wouldn't do that - there would still be very healthy profit margins. I'm a long-time Apple customer, but it's a shame they don't do this - but they know they can get away with it because people will continue to pay the high prices...myself included lol..
 
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OldMike

macrumors 6502a
Mar 3, 2009
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I agree - it's a shame they wouldn't do that - there would still be very healthy profit margins. I'm a long-time Apple customer, but it's a shame they don't do this - but they know they can get away with it because people will continue to pay the high prices...myself included lol..

I really think it has a lot to do with just how good the M1 is. The performance is so spectacular and can compare (and even exceed) the performance of much more expensive machines.

At this very point in time, if you look only at price to performance, these are very good deals - even counting in the ridiculous $200 bump.

The equation, however, will change dramatically once the rest of the lineup has transitioned to Apple Silicon, and then maybe we will see some price adjustments on these 'low end' Macs.
 
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Mac... nificent

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Nov 20, 2012
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You can use an external SSD drive - quite a fast one with TB3 or whatever it's called.

You can't add external RAM.
Yep, was just going to post this about the RAM.

I'm using a NVMe M.2 external boot drive and it's running buttery smooth and blazingly fast and only cost around $225 for 1TB. Really loving the M1 so far :)
 

Clix Pix

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For me it would be a no-brainer to choose RAM if I could have only one upgraded feature. External SSDs have come down significantly in price and one can easily add a lot more storage simply by plugging in such a device. This means that a customer can save a little money on the storage aspect if need be.
 

ght56

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Aug 31, 2020
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I would always welcome further webcam improvements, especially given it looks like the world is going to be using them more and more in the future. The 720p webcam is kind of meh, but a better quality webcam probably won't mean a thing with most videoconferencing apps. So an upgraded camera, if the tech is possible, would be great...it probably is and I assume Apple has it in the works for the next form factor. However, its real world benefit in the short term may be minor with the limitations imposed by common videoconferencing apps and existing internet infrastructure.

That said, I chose 'something else.' I'd like to see a new screen design beyond everything else. I don't think anything is wrong with the current one, but some of the newer technologies may allow Apple to not just yield a brighter screen, but to also push the battery life even further. With an ultraportable like the Air, there really is no such thing as too much battery life. If Apple made a new screen the standard, I would dig that.
 

jeanlain

macrumors 68020
Mar 14, 2009
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I don't see the need of a better webcam. Who cares about image quality while video conferencing? More often than not, you're bandwidth-limited. 720 is more that good enough IMO. We don't take pictures with these webcams.
 
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jerryk

macrumors 604
Nov 3, 2011
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I don't see the need of a better webcam. Who cares about image quality while video conferencing? More often than not, you're bandwidth-limited. 720 is more that good enough IMO. We don't take pictures with these webcams.
Agreed. People like to beat Apple up on only having 720 p webcams but if you ask them if they would trade 1/2 the base RAM or SSD size for 1080 you will get no takers.
 
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