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The Game 161

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latest rumours are 12.9 model will be mini led and while 11 inch pro will be upgraded it will still have the same LCD display and will just be upgraded to A14X with likely 5G

or will you just stick with your current device?

latest other rumours think OLED will be coming in 2022 for 11 inch.
 

AutomaticApple

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latest rumours are 12.9 model will be mini led and while 11 inch pro will be upgraded it will still have the same LCD display and will just be upgraded to A14X with likely 5G

or will you just stick with your current device?

latest other rumours think OLED will be coming in 2022 for 11 inch.
No, I will not upgrade.
 

JagdTiger

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latest rumours are 12.9 model will be mini led and while 11 inch pro will be upgraded it will still have the same LCD display and will just be upgraded to A14X with likely 5G

or will you just stick with your current device?

latest other rumours think OLED will be coming in 2022 for 11 inch.
Mini led is supposed to have a great picture quality.
 

kristalsoldier

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latest rumours are 12.9 model will be mini led and while 11 inch pro will be upgraded it will still have the same LCD display and will just be upgraded to A14X with likely 5G

or will you just stick with your current device?

latest other rumours think OLED will be coming in 2022 for 11 inch.
My current device is the 11” 2020 Pro and I am not upgrading even if it comes with MiniLed and/or a portal to heaven. This iPad suits my purposes and will do so for at least 3 years, if not more.
 

chrism_scotland

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It’s going to take something special for a lot of folk to upgrade even their 12.9 iPad Pro at this point; all the rumours point to a fairly scant update aside from a new CPU, 5G (which is still about 3 years away from being of much use in the UK) and the small possibility of a screen update; its not as if even the 2018 iPad Pro is really showing any signs of slowness.

I picked up a brand new 2020 model for about £400 less than retail; however if they moved the camera to the side (so its on top/middle in horizontal) that would probably make me more likely to purchase than an LED/OLED update.
 

C. Robert

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I have been so happy with my 12.9 and magic keyboard that I would think about it in about a year. I do think that the 11 pro will disappear because of the air. The 12.9 will come in two models.
 
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spiderman0616

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I want an iPad mini with Apple Pencil 2 support and the iPad Air/Pro design language. I would use it strictly as a bedside e-reader, web browser, and note pad.
 

Digitalguy

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The speed of A14X will make little difference. iPadOS can barely take advantage of A12X. Not even OLED would be a reason for me. I bought the OLED Tab S7+ and it was not because of OLED. It was because of the combination of screen size, aspect ratio and weight, much better suited for videos than the iPad pro. And much less limited compared to iPadOS when handling files and external drives. Yeah sure OLED is a bonus, since black bars are really black, but I am a person who focuses on content not on visuals. That's why I don't care about 120hz or OLED, and I consider them just nice small bonuses, nothing that triggers my decisions. But I care, and much more, about screen size, and about things like USB C.
I just bought a 1TB iPad pro 11 LTE and I love it. Plan to keep it for many many years, just like my Tab S7+.
And I just swapped my 12.9 first gen to get a new battery, paying Apple $100. So it's ready to do 5 more years.
It would take something really big at this point, much bigger than OLED or a SOC upgrade, to make me buy a new iPad pro in the next couple of years...
 

spiderman0616

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The speed of A14X will make little difference. iPadOS can barely take advantage of A12X. Not even OLED would be a reason for me. I bought the OLED Tab S7+ and it was not because of OLED. It was because of the combination of screen size, aspect ratio and weight, much better suited for videos than the iPad pro. And much less limited compared to iPadOS when handling files and external drives. Yeah sure OLED is a bonus, since black bars are really black, but I am a person who focuses on content not on visuals. That's why I don't care about 120hz or OLED, and I consider them just nice small bonuses, nothing that triggers my decisions. But I care, and much more, about screen size, and about things like USB C.
I just bought a 1TB iPad pro 11 LTE and I love it. Plan to keep it for many many years, just like my Tab S7+.
And I just swapped my 12.9 first gen to get a new battery, paying Apple $100. So it's ready to do 5 more years.
It would take something really big at this point, much bigger than OLED or a SOC upgrade, to make me buy a new iPad pro in the next couple of years...
Even as a die hard fan of the iPad platform in general, I have started to realize that processor upgrades barely matter on the iPad at the moment. If you have ANY model of iPad Pro right now, you have a more than capable machine that can run any of the pro apps made for it. A 9.7" iPad Pro from gen 1 will probably still do most things that a 12.9" iPad Pro with the A12z can do, albeit with concessions made for the less RAM. And it will still sound amazing with the quad speakers and look amazing with the fantastic laminated display. Likewise, I doubt users will perceive much performance difference between the 2020 iPad Pro with an A12z and the 2021 iPad Pro on A14x or whatever it ends up being called.

Apple is going to upgrade processors on the iPad continuously, right along with the iPhone, Watch, and Mac, but that is starting to seem like it's more for simplicity than capability. I'm sure it's much easier when it comes to manufacturing and software development to just put all new iOS/iPadOS devices on the same A chips and all new Macs on the same M chips. At that point, the customer is just deciding which external hardware configuration to purchase, and if money is tight, you can also decide if you are able to settle for an older model with slower guts that also probably won't be a huge hit in performance in the eyes of the average user. In other words, if you can still buy it on Apple.com, it's going to run fast and efficient.

I think the continual processor upgrades are more noticeable in the iPhone, which is sucking as much power as it can from that CPU when it comes to photo and video capture (among other things). For the iPad, which is generally NOT a photo/video capture device, if Apple is going to continue the current pace of iPadOS development, the processor upgrades feel more like a branding move than a meaningful CPU performance move.

This is all a testament to how efficient and powerful Apple's hardware and software are though--it's ok to keep moving things forward, even if Joe User doesn't notice what you're doing. That's the way Apple likes to do things. They still paint both sides of the fence, even if you can only see one side. Exhibit A: The M1 Macs are all entry level "regular user" models, and most regular users won't know or care that their Mac has an M1 processor.
 

rui no onna

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I'm still on the 2017 iPad Pros, so yep, I plan on upgrading. With the introduction of mouse/trackpad support, I've been using the 12.9 iPad docked more often so FaceID will be a convenient change in that regard.

Apple certified refurb or brand new from authorized retailer are the only options I'm considering. Since Apple's refurbished iPad store has been quite empty for a long time and discounts are hard to find on brand new 2020 1TB LTE, reckon I'll just splurge for the upcoming model.
 

Digitalguy

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Even as a die hard fan of the iPad platform in general, I have started to realize that processor upgrades barely matter on the iPad at the moment. If you have ANY model of iPad Pro right now, you have a more than capable machine that can run any of the pro apps made for it. A 9.7" iPad Pro from gen 1 will probably still do most things that a 12.9" iPad Pro with the A12z can do, albeit with concessions made for the less RAM. And it will still sound amazing with the quad speakers and look amazing with the fantastic laminated display. Likewise, I doubt users will perceive much performance difference between the 2020 iPad Pro with an A12z and the 2021 iPad Pro on A14x or whatever it ends up being called.

Apple is going to upgrade processors on the iPad continuously, right along with the iPhone, Watch, and Mac, but that is starting to seem like it's more for simplicity than capability. I'm sure it's much easier when it comes to manufacturing and software development to just put all new iOS/iPadOS devices on the same A chips and all new Macs on the same M chips. At that point, the customer is just deciding which external hardware configuration to purchase, and if money is tight, you can also decide if you are able to settle for an older model with slower guts that also probably won't be a huge hit in performance in the eyes of the average user. In other words, if you can still buy it on Apple.com, it's going to run fast and efficient.

I think the continual processor upgrades are more noticeable in the iPhone, which is sucking as much power as it can from that CPU when it comes to photo and video capture (among other things). For the iPad, which is generally NOT a photo/video capture device, if Apple is going to continue the current pace of iPadOS development, the processor upgrades feel more like a branding move than a meaningful CPU performance move.

This is all a testament to how efficient and powerful Apple's hardware and software are though--it's ok to keep moving things forward, even if Joe User doesn't notice what you're doing. That's the way Apple likes to do things. They still paint both sides of the fence, even if you can only see one side. Exhibit A: The M1 Macs are all entry level "regular user" models, and most regular users won't know or care that their Mac has an M1 processor.
Yeah, I am keeping my iPad pro 9.7 and 12.9 first gen. I have some specific uses cases for the 9.7 and it's still a good device, especially a secondary iPad. I am instead going to sell the 10.5, not for lack of CPU power, on the contrary it's pretty close to the 11 pro, but for the while spot that makes reading a non starter. The speakers of the first gen pro are just as good as the last gen. And that's a feature that no non-pro iPad has got, probably the only one left from the first pro (other than size for the 12.9). The big differences for me are USB C and, to a lesser extend, the pencil 2. At this point there is only so much Apple can do hardware-wise to make a difference... Now it's time for software to catch up with hardware...
Only when the software can really take advantage of it, more CPU power, more RAM, faster USB etc. will start to make some real difference.
 

Falhófnir

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Aug 19, 2017
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Most recent rumour makes it sound again like the mini LED model will be more expensive, possibly the 11" and 12.9" will both be updated with A14X but without mini LED, and there will be an additional mini LED 12.9" model at an even higher price point. That's a bit annoying as I'd prefer to avoid going north of £1,000 (for the tablet itself at least) and the 12.9 already starts just a hair under.
 

ArmCortexA8

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Just got a brand new iPad Pro 12.9" 128GB on a plan for 24 months, which gives me the option to upgrade to the next model after 12 months for A$99. As with any new technology it's better to wait for newer iterations of it to get the bugs out of it. Its commonplace for people to avoid the first revision of new hardware. LCD technology has been fine-tuned for over twenty years and still works very well in most situations, despite using a backlight. OLED has no backlight which is good for battery life, however image retention / burn-in may occur over time. I think consumers are sick of being profit-based guinea pigs with technology.
 

TomOSeven

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I sniped a 12.9 inch smart folio on ebay the other day just to resell it, and just handling that thing to check if it's in good condition convinced me to never get a 12.9 inch iPad. It's just too unwieldy.
 

richinaus

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Oct 26, 2014
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I will be keeping my existing 2018 12” to remain in the office as it is too big for home [for WFH it has been great but not so much for on the sofa / bed reading etc], and will get the 11” ipadpro for home use. I am not bothered too much about the mini led to be honest.

In fact I will say my book reading has reduced significantly since getting the 12” - it simply isnt great for this.
 

richinaus

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Just got a brand new iPad Pro 12.9" 128GB on a plan for 24 months, which gives me the option to upgrade to the next model after 12 months for A$99. As with any new technology it's better to wait for newer iterations of it to get the bugs out of it. Its commonplace for people to avoid the first revision of new hardware. LCD technology has been fine-tuned for over twenty years and still works very well in most situations, despite using a backlight. OLED has no backlight which is good for battery life, however image retention / burn-in may occur over time. I think consumers are sick of being profit-based guinea pigs with technology.
Hey mate, who you with ? Optus / Telstra?
 

Jonathantuba

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Oct 6, 2017
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The LCD screen may tempt me - but to be honest my 2018 12.9” is still my dream device. Really no need to upgrade.

Now if Apple brought out a 15” iPad Pro, I would order on launch day :)
 

TheRealAlex

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Sep 2, 2015
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latest rumours are 12.9 model will be mini led and while 11 inch pro will be upgraded it will still have the same LCD display and will just be upgraded to A14X with likely 5G

or will you just stick with your current device?

latest other rumours think OLED will be coming in 2022 for 11 inch.
It remains to be seen how many Mini-LED zones the 12.9” will have. And the 11” iPad Pro will likely get a 11” 120hz Pro Motion display made by Samsung they already make a 12.9” version.

I‘d gladly take a 11” OLED vs 12.9” Mini-LED.

And I’m looking forward to a 14” MacBook Pro M1X with a Mini-LED display of its own.
 
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