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Considering how, despite still selling iPods, Apple hasn't UPDATED a non-iOS iPod since the iPod nano in 2012... 5 years ago... I don't think Apple's worried about people using iPods with niche use cases such as not owning a computer. The number of people with an old iPod, but no computer at all is likely very, very miniscule. Apple would rather move people to iPhone (or even iPod touch).



Oh right, I forgot because almost everybody needs to put their iPhone in DFU mode... Oh wait, I have never heard of anyone doing that IRL. Honestly, I would argue that vast, vast majority of people can do everything they need to on an iPad. I still use my MacBook (I'm on it now), but that's mostly because "some" things are easier and I prefer the keyboard. When my 2014 MBA dies, I don't expect to buy another Mac. But of course I don't expect that to happen for at least 3 years.

Things can happen anytime. My life is not so simple that I could give up computers.
 
Of course they don't care about a product thats less than 1 percent of their revenue. Probably a tenth of a percent . WHY IS THIS SHOCKING!?

If anyone still cares about an iPod chances are they have a computer sitting around to plug it into.

Apple doesn't care about floppies or CDs anymore either in case you missed that memo.

Things change, tech advances. Move on.

When did I say it was shocking? I totally understand it but as the iPod was the product that put Apple into the stratosphere it's a shame that it's all but dead. I still use mine almost daily so I'm not ready to move on :(
 
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Honestly, I would argue that vast, vast majority of people can do everything they need to on an iPad.

Sorry but you lost me there. LOL!

Not a valid statement. The business world is still very dependent on full computers. Tablets like iPads could do more but not going to happen as long as they are so constricted by Apple.

Love it when people use the term "vast, vast majority"
 
If you only have an iPad - how does Apple expect you to sync your iPod?

what workarounds do people use?

With the ipod touch, via the iTunes store.

If you're talking about ancient iPods from before 2011 or so, then they always listed a PC or Mac as a requirement for the device. Current hardware trends with new devices don't remove pre-existing hardware requirements.
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With out a computer how would you fix a very troubled iPhone needing to be reset in DFU mode?
RMA it. Get apple to fix it? Get a nerd friend to fix it? In future, same way you reinstall macOS on a Macbook? Boot it from the internet and reinstall?

Sorry but computers will not be replaced, for most, with an iPad. For me I can not ever see that happening.

Computers WILL be replaced, for most, by an iPad, iPhone or equivalent device.

Most people don't fix iPhones needing DFU reset either. They get a nerd friend to do it.

Most people want to chat, browse facebook/twitter/intagram/etc., do their internet banking/shopping, play games and consume media. The iPad handles that fine. In fact, better than a computer as it is lighter, better battery life, no fans, far more difficult to get malware on, etc.

Computers won't go away, no. But they'll be less and less common as time moves on. Fact is, most people, even if they don't know it yet - don't want a computer. They want to do the things that they've used a computer to do.

Once they realise that the computer is not required to do the things they do, they won't want one any more. As it is, tablets are computers anyway. And laptops and tablets are merging.

What will happen is that the desktop will likely become extremely uncommon, and the laptops/tablets that remain will effectively merge to be the same sort of device. Microsoft is coming at it from the Laptop -> Tablet line with the surface, Apple is approaching it from the other direction with the iPad Pro.
 
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Sorry but you lost me there. LOL!

Not a valid statement. The business world is still very dependent on full computers. Tablets like iPads could do more but not going to happen as long as they are so constricted by Apple.

Love it when people use the term "vast, vast majority"
I think it's funny that you responded to my post twice...

Perhaps I should have been more clear in my original post, but I meant for personal use. If you require a computer at work, your work will provide one. But once people go home and are off the clock an iPad is sufficient for a vast majority of people.

That being said, honestly I could imagine a workplace where iPads absolutely could replace computers in a vast majority of situations. However, since the work environment has been built around a PC-like computer workflow for decades, there is a lot of baggage that isn't always easily replaced with an iPad.

Again, I still use my MacBook Air a lot of the time, but that's more out of habit and ease of typing. I also just upgraded from iPad mini 2 to iPad pro within the past week so I'm still learning how powerful/useful my iPad pro can be. If my MacBook and iPad both were destroyed today, I would almost certainly just get another iPad pro. At half the price it provides a much better value than a MacBook.
 
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I think it's funny that you responded to my post twice...

Perhaps I should have been more clear in my original post, but I meant for personal use. If you require a computer at work, your work will provide one. But once people go home and are off the clock an iPad is sufficient for a vast majority of people.

That being said, honestly I could imagine a workplace where iPads absolutely could replace computers in a vast majority of situations. However, since the work environment has been built around a PC-like computer workflow for decades, there is a lot of baggage that isn't always easily replaced with an iPad.

Again, I still use my MacBook Air a lot of the time, but that's more out of habit and ease of typing. I also just upgraded from iPad mini 2 to iPad pro within the past week so I'm still learning how powerful/useful my iPad pro can be. If my MacBook and iPad both were destroyed today, I would almost certainly just get another iPad pro. At half the price it provides a much better value than a MacBook.

Guess I missed the "personal use thing"

Have a good weekend.
 
I think it's funny that you responded to my post twice...

Perhaps I should have been more clear in my original post, but I meant for personal use. If you require a computer at work, your work will provide one. But once people go home and are off the clock an iPad is sufficient for a vast majority of people.

That being said, honestly I could imagine a workplace where iPads absolutely could replace computers in a vast majority of situations. However, since the work environment has been built around a PC-like computer workflow for decades, there is a lot of baggage that isn't always easily replaced with an iPad.

Again, I still use my MacBook Air a lot of the time, but that's more out of habit and ease of typing. I also just upgraded from iPad mini 2 to iPad pro within the past week so I'm still learning how powerful/useful my iPad pro can be. If my MacBook and iPad both were destroyed today, I would almost certainly just get another iPad pro. At half the price it provides a much better value than a MacBook.

I did my job, as a network administrator using only an iPad (with VGA adapter and keyboard - the keyboard being the biggest requirement) for 1-2 weeks (as a test) back in 2012.

I managed to deal with it. I gave it up because there were a few hitches back then (e.g., Horizon view client would not pass through particular key combinations to Windows - but apparently that has now been fixed) that could be worked around but were a bit annoying. I'm keen to try again with an iPad Pro and see if i can do it - because the benefits of just being able to pick up a lightweight device and keep doing my job exactly as if i was at my desk were great. So was the lack of noise, light weight, all day battery, touch friendly applications for when on the move, etc.

People think they need computers, but for the most part, they don't. iWork and even Office 365 run in a web browser now, people are moving their apps to the cloud, even old on premise ERP packages are adding web front ends.

You won't need a computer in the next few years, you'll just need a web browser.
 
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Funny to read that computers will be replaced by computers, folks just stop calling them that.
 
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If you already have an old-world iPod, you would need a source to get music from, which would mean you have a computer.

If your first computer is the iPad, your source of music is from Apple, through the iTunes store. In that case, Apple would ideally want you to use an iPod with the iTunes store app, and then your music would "sync" independently of the iPad over Wi-Fi.

And what if I don't like to share my private information with others?
Then don't? You choose what you share with companies. If they need info for you to use their service, you don't need to use it if you're that paranoid.

Funny to read that computers will be replaced by computers, folks just stop calling them that.
Unfortunately you can't program and compile an iPad app on an iPad "Pro" yet :\
 
The old debate about computers vs tablets, "real work" vs light use, consumption vs creative work etc will never end will it?
 
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