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peppi

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I'm not saying this to be mean, but I honestly stopped reading here. I instantly felt like this was about to come off as an immature rant against a company that just isn't giving you exciting tickles in your pants anymore.

Furthermore, if you didn't really want to say it, then you wouldn't have.



I do, with my wallet.

I do to, but mine was the only one that was not immature, things look different when you get to my age. You say it because it is long overdue, and for the common good. A child just considers their own good ussually.

This is another turning point for Apple, like in the 90's and 80's, not in the hands of deluded people. They are concentrating too much on the handheld and notebooks, as a money spinner, because it is a fashion item, that is aging. At the end of the day, if they don't keep the desktop, they can land up with at least two markets in decline suddenly. I guess you have not seen too much of this sort of thing, but the iPhone is the Atari of today. They are looking to TV etc, but two birds in the hand are at least with something compared to one potential one in the bush. If you play your cards right, you can have three birds.

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None of your "design sins" are an issue, at least for me. Touch screens on a desktop are a gimmick at best and a recipe for carpal tunnel at worst. The only place touch screens belong are tablets and the larger Surface (table) systems. The real cutting edge for the moment is this https://leapmotion.com/ and the kinect.

Hakuryuu, thanks for this, it is good to see somebody doing this. I had been planning on using a non touch display control system for my own products years ago, but nothing as sophisticated as this, just simple. I did not see where they say how it works. If it is suitable I will consider using it for my work.

As we can see you don't need to contact the tablet like table top iMac if you want it that way. The other thing people get wring is smudges. Even on my cheap phone you don't notice them when it is on, the light shines through very well. But the real issue is that there are screen coating technologies to reduce smudging and enhance display while being near diamond hard. At worst, have a version of a microfiber pad suited to the job, and quickly wipe it NW and again. I did come up with a self cleaning method, but apple dies nit have that.

Most of the opinions here were mistaken. There are ways around these various issues, but other factors are in play. It is alright to have a right opinion.
 

OJ Simpson

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Oct 1, 2012
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So you joined up simply to post a rather confusingly worded rant that appears to be saying that you don't like apple and haven't done since the Lisa? Hope the good feeling you got was worth the effort.

Why do you have to take it so personally? The OP wasn't attacking you he was simply stating his displeasure with Apple. You are not Apple why do you feel obligated to attack the OP? I hope you feel better for defending a billion dollar corporation you have no affiliation with.
 

roadbloc

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The new MacBook Pro with retina display doesn't even includes a CD/DVD drive because physical media is being phased out.

Not in my house it isn't. I find keeping your world on the cloud causes more problems than solutions most of the time, especially when using iCloud.
 

Dolorian

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Not in my house it isn't. I find keeping your world on the cloud causes more problems than solutions most of the time, especially when using iCloud.

Fair enough. I personally don't use iCloud (I use Google services) but in my experience everything has become much better and easier after I moved everything (all my music included) to the cloud.
 

dmelgar

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Where do all these rambling anti apple threads come from. It gets very tiring. Just throw all the rambling into one thread. Make it the official apple is going down thread. Why are these folks here. Were people just in love w Steve jobs and now that he's gone apple is done for.

Whatever. Don't like it, move on. Post on the dell or google forum.
 

peppi

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a) Reality, b) not if they listen. No use k:stening to fans that think you can do no wrong, and whatever you do is 'righteous' (a spin off of the The Bill and Ted movie).

In reality you find truth, in truth you find where not to go and hopefully where to go.

Believe me they will be monitoring forums, like other big companies do, that contact out to marketing companies to do, and even put in replies defending the client. We are telling them.

Next post will be a stopper, especially considering the upswing mentioned is for a new late release over Christmas, and it is normal for a fan demand driven product to plummet there after, unless the product has staying strength.

I was going to post yet another Apple 3D patent, but it is just plain by now, they aim for 3D.

News is saying Apple down in US, don't know if earning or stock price (the people that actually own Apple's stock). Apple has a good future, considering what they do in the future.
 

peppi

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Sales down 79%.

http://www.tomshardware.com/news/iMac-Specs-Desktop-Market-PC-Shipments,18684.html

OK, 5mm thick, thinner than I thought, make a great tablet :) . Thought it was 1-2 cm at least, which would have been big enough for an optical drive behind the LCD, still what's below the lcd.

Have been thinking of how to make it touch recently, but no 4k work display. Been thinking of how to make my notebook into a tablet. :)

It is likely I will snag/convert into, a large surface display for the desk I can hook to a PC or mac onto. The problem with the mac mini is no descent gpu or optical drive, unless you make a box to house them and the mini (call it a ICube). I was hoping to get a Mac TV this year, they were rumoring the IMac was going to be the first bridging product to this.

Well, looks like I might have to eye that viewsonic 32 inch 4k display for the price of a car. The Tata Nano car is around $2000US, and secondhand cars are cheaper again :) (I'm being deliberately humorous here).
 

peppi

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Oct 20, 2012
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Looking for multi touch monitors, I did find a 55 inch overlay kit for a Mac, believe it or not. I would have to get an appropriate wide angle screen, like a Sharp, otherwise it would be shifted in color. This explains why Apple might not be doing it yet, sharp originally had a pixel structure that spread light across wide angles in all directions, many years ago. They must be waiting for the new sharp displays to get the resolution, brightness, color clarity, low power and wide viewing angles for touch, at the same time. So, we might see a 1st/2nd quarter release of the mythical 30 inch iMac/tv talked about, and that Apple touch computing technology they talked about around the tine of the MS original surface project (I think it might have been afterwards). So whatever anybody says, they were and likely still are planning touch.

If only one of these overlay kits had android USB drivers for a TV stick.

However, here is the last word, when they lay them down, and get a work flow desktop:


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencet...s-40-inch-touchscreen-feel-50-hands-once.html

How cool is that!

Peppi La Phew Out..
 
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tech4all

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Jun 13, 2004
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My main quirks with Apple now are mainly with the iDevices:

iPad mini = over priced. The Nexus 7 is going to be upgraded to 32GB for the same price of $249. Yea the iPad gives you a camera on the back, but that's not worth the premium IMO. It's not even an iOS vs. Android thing, it's what you're getting for the price.

Another thing is the locking down of Macs. Apple is now making more harder, if not impossible, to perform simple upgrades. RAM for one thing. They're not soldering that to the logic board now. If Apple continues this path on locking down their stuff, I will no longer buy Macs, but find another way to use OS X. I love the Mac design, but if they think they're going force to buy RAM from them, well they got another thing coming.

I truly hope I'm wrong about this, cause I love Macs.

This thread and OP are hilarious.

Please, if I had haters because I had such high regards and reputation, I would be ecstatic.

OP, go build your own iMac and license your own blu-ray (lol).

PS. Haven't even used an optical drive for about 5 years now. Get with the century, Luddite.

No, that's hilarious. Yea I don't use my optical drive much, but I do sometimes and some use all the time. Your use doesn't equal other's uses.
 

Les Kern

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So you joined up simply to post a rather confusingly worded rant that appears to be saying that you don't like apple and haven't done since the Lisa? Hope the good feeling you got was worth the effort.

Kind of like the Unibomber Manifesto... little of this, little of that, wrapped up in a oddly constructed rant that is tedious to read. Blu-Ray? Who cares. LES hasn't put so much as one DVD or even a CD in a Mac in YEARS. So what customers are you talking about? Not THIS one.
Nobody really cares what I think, but it APPEARS someone got bored and has no intention of buying Apple anyway.
 

smoledman

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Oct 17, 2011
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You know who I really loathe? Blatant pro-Apple anti-Microsoft haters like Marco Arment or "Cult of Mac".
 

peppi

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Kind of like the Unibomber Manifesto... little of this, little of that, wrapped up in a oddly constructed rant that is tedious to read. Blu-Ray? Who cares. LES hasn't put so much as one DVD or even a CD in a Mac in YEARS. So what customers are you talking about? Not THIS one.
Nobody really cares what I think, but it APPEARS someone got bored and has no intention of buying Apple anyway.

Yes, Les, Justin's unibomber like odd selfish rant does look deluded, as with all his followers. The main problem with these sorts of discussions, is that they can't stand me being so right (in this case). If I was as obviously wrong as they are I would shut up. But there is no counting for the morally ambiguous. re-edit: Apple is better off without them, and so would I be, alongside Apple, if I owned a Mac. You notice how they just cone here to trawl the thread and ruin sensible objective discussion, like storm troopers.


Funny how they cannot even understand simple writing and truth in their slide into dissipation.


You know who I really loathe? Blatant pro-Apple anti-Microsoft haters like Marco Arment or "Cult of Mac".

I'm with you Smoledman +100, how rude and St.. this is. They can go out and start a pro Apple does it right and has nothing wrong thread here or elsewhere, if they want, and let all the sensible people there laugh at them. I correctly diced it, it is obvious they have too little to contribute, let alone being able to run anything significant away from the ground. I'm sure Apple is much more savvy, in their own game.

As for me and Apple, don't be too sure I won't be standing beside an Apple six months from now. I'm that sort of guy, honest, and non genuine people are the only people that seem to have a problem with that.

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Found some cheaper 4k TV'/displays yesterday, am doing enquiries tomorrow. One 50 inch mirror display with touch. Then for the computer. I wonder if they are still planning the mini/thin version of the Mac Pro rumored last year or so ago.. I think it would be great to have a Mac myself.
 
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peppi

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Oct 20, 2012
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I've uncovered something today that makes me wonder if Apple will dump Arm in 2-3 years time, maybe more. Insane I know, considering this talk of Arm going desktop.
 

thekev

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4K resolution monitors would be obscenely expensive. Apple will have them when the price is marketable. Apple is already ahead of the curve with the rMBP and a 2560x1440 27" display. Most Windows computers even premium ones have lower quality screens included.

If you're buying a desktop display, many use 2560x1440. It's just the cheap 27" ones that are 1920x1080. Above $700 or so, 27" displays are all 2560x1440. The LCD panel itself is a semi generic part, although it doesn't dictate the entire implementation. Even when Apple debuted the 27" cinema, they weren't the first to use this (just one of the earlier ones). It was just what LG had available, and it has been available since 2009.
 

Renzatic

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What the hells a rant...

What's a rant? WHAT'S A RANT? I'LL TELL YOU WHAT A RANT IS! A RANT IS WHEN BLARH DE BLARH DE DERP A DOO DUP DEEP DEEP DAR DAR DAP! AND THAT'S WHY YOU SUCK AND APPLE NO LONGER INNOVATES AND MS IS STUPID AND GOOGLE STEALS!

GAWWWWWWWWWWWWW! :mad:

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cfedu

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I don't really want to say this, but somebody has too.* I've been putting off buying an IMac over the last 5 years, mainly because of Apple itself.


So you did not get an iMac in 2007 because apple did not offer a 4K, 3d, touch display? I guess the iPhone 5 not having a Laser keyboard was also a deal breaker for you.
 

firedept

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What's a rant? WHAT'S A RANT? I'LL TELL YOU WHAT A RANT IS! A RANT IS WHEN BLARH DE BLARH DE DERP A DOO DUP DEEP DEEP DAR DAR DAP! AND THAT'S WHY YOU SUCK AND APPLE NO LONGER INNOVATES AND MS IS STUPID AND GOOGLE STEALS!

GAWWWWWWWWWWWWW! :mad:

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Right on point. LOL! Thanks for making my evening.
 

velocityg4

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If you're buying a desktop display, many use 2560x1440. It's just the cheap 27" ones that are 1920x1080. Above $700 or so, 27" displays are all 2560x1440. The LCD panel itself is a semi generic part, although it doesn't dictate the entire implementation. Even when Apple debuted the 27" cinema, they weren't the first to use this (just one of the earlier ones). It was just what LG had available, and it has been available since 2009.

I was just trying to point out that they were ahead by standardizing it in a computer lineup. Not that they where simply the first with the tech. Before the iMac had that screen only professionals and hardcore tech enthusiasts had a 27" 2560x1440 display.
 

thekev

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I was just trying to point out that they were ahead by standardizing it in a computer lineup. Not that they where simply the first with the tech. Before the iMac had that screen only professionals and hardcore tech enthusiasts had a 27" 2560x1440 display.

Ahh... yeah those came out around the same time though. I was thinking of the 27" cinema display. It came out around the same time as a few of the others. The others dropped in price somewhat while Apple added on to make it the thunderbolt display. The specific 27" 16:9 form factor with that resolution came out around 2009. It's considerably less expensive than a lot of the 30" displays it displaced. they were 2560x1600. It's not a bad compromise. I kind of expected to see a nice bump in resolution around the 24" form factor. It's a good size overall. I just wish it had more pixels.
 

throAU

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Feb 13, 2012
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If the device doesn't meet your needs, don't buy it.

Have you used a vertically oriented touch screen? I have, and its *****.


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3840x2400 screens have been out for over a decade. they needed 3 video cards to drive and cost a lot though, back in 2001. in 2007, they were (still) 17 grand...
 

peppi

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So you did not get an iMac in 2007 because apple did not offer a 4K, 3d, touch display? I guess the iPhone 5 not having a Laser keyboard was also a deal breaker for you.

Don't be silly, read the thread.
 

peppi

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If the device doesn't meet your needs, don't buy it.

Have you used a vertically oriented touch screen? I have, and its *****.


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3840x2400 screens have been out for over a decade. they needed 3 video cards to drive and cost a lot though, back in 2001. in 2007, they were (still) 17 grand...

Hmm, they were a lot cheaper than that in 2006, I even was looking at getting one off eBay secondhand for around a $1000 then. Three graphic cards, even the internal graphics on an ivy bridge can run two 4k displays, plus I remember reading about how cheap it is to make now, and how held back and over priced. There are two fullhd LCD mobiles on the market soon, I wonder how much something many times less intricate and complex with big 4k pixels would cost, not more per inch, but less.

Read the thread, you guys don't even bother to keep up up the Apple news, and there patent on the lay flat touch Mac design, similar to HP's old design. I said ir before instead of vertical usage, and it is all there for you guys to read it.

Shot down on all counts.

Ye all,

With the amount of silly posts here, Apple might as well do themselves a favor and ditch you guys. They don't need people that just stalk and harass innocent people, with little regard, or ability, for figuring things out before saying something.

Notice the other 90-99%+ (no capital +'s to use here) of readers have NOT posted a silly post. And it is hard to believe they are still restarting arguing semantics about silly off topic issues. But these silly posts make the rest of us look good :) Everybody is so into themselves they have not even bothered to wonder what I uncovered, and I was going to tell you to wait and see after 3 or 4 years anyway, it will blow your minds. at the moment, not that you guys could believe it before it could. Its bigger news then anything Apple has done in the last 20 years.

Bye guys.
 
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