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wongster41

macrumors regular
Original poster
Jun 7, 2010
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169
So tired of the waiting game only to be disappointed. I've been using iPhone since the iPhone 3g, skipped the 3gs and got the iPhone 4 only to return it because of the 'antennagate' issue (yes, it affected me). So I had to use my outdated iPhone 3g for another year while I wait for Apple to get their **** together with the antennagate with the iPhone 4s. Then came the iPhone 5 with the bigger screen, sold my 4s and been using the 5 for the past year. I was really hoping Apple would step up its game this year and make a bigger screen to compete with Samsung, but it doesn't appear so and they will release the 5s with the same screen size as the 5.

The real disadvantage of apple is the company releases a phone once every year, and you have to wait 2 years for a redesign phone while samsung is running circles around you making all sorts of sizes for the market to choose. So for now, I'm done with apple. I'm looking into getting the Note 3 when it comes out for the screen size, this will be a good opportunity for me to check out android too for the first time. This is where you really messed up apple, because I might end up loving android and not come back to IOS when/if you do release a bigger screen size next year.
 

zbarvian

macrumors 68010
Jul 23, 2011
2,004
2
Yeah the two year waiting period for a redesign is getting old. I'm expecting a larger screened option next year, but that's still a long ways off.
 

AppleRobert

macrumors 603
Nov 12, 2012
5,729
1,133
I probably will never buy an iPhone, whatever version.

I have an IPad Mini, my first Apple product and I do not see that changing anytime soon.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
I tried Android for the first time this year as well.

It's nice. Doesn't tickle my fancy, but I like it. Use a GS4 currently as my everyday, personal device. Still have my iPhone 5 for work and will hopefully be picking up the 5S.

Each OS has its flaws and advantages. The bigger screen is nice (went from a Nexus 4 to an HTC One now to a GS4) but I do like the size of my iPhone 5 quite a bit.

Just depends on what you want to do. My use case doesn't change from device to device. I've gotten used to the ways each OS does certain tasks so most things are easy for me on both and the annoyances I do experience are relatively minor.

I like having both in my everyday tech lineup. I find I gain perspective from using both - though many here don't want to hear perspective, they want to hear cheer-leading for their side.

Pick up an Android phone. You aren't offending Apple. If you like it, more power to you - though I'd venture to guess in a year or so you'll start getting bored again. Just the way society seems to be heading - faster upgrade times, more specs, more features (when most of us don't use half the stuff there anyways).

The new, shiny thing always looks good from afar and is fun for a time. But the grass isn't ALWAYS greener....

Then again, you won't know unless you try it.
 

AQUADock

macrumors 65816
Mar 20, 2011
1,049
37
I tried Android for the first time this year as well.

It's nice. Doesn't tickle my fancy, but I like it. Use a GS4 currently as my everyday, personal device. Still have my iPhone 5 for work and will hopefully be picking up the 5S.

Each OS has its flaws and advantages. The bigger screen is nice (went from a Nexus 4 to an HTC One now to a GS4) but I do like the size of my iPhone 5 quite a bit.

Just depends on what you want to do. My use case doesn't change from device to device. I've gotten used to the ways each OS does certain tasks so most things are easy for me on both and the annoyances I do experience are relatively minor.

I like having both in my everyday tech lineup. I find I gain perspective from using both - though many here don't want to hear perspective, they want to hear cheer-leading for their side.

Pick up an Android phone. You aren't offending Apple. If you like it, more power to you - though I'd venture to guess in a year or so you'll start getting bored again. Just the way society seems to be heading - faster upgrade times, more specs, more features (when most of us don't use half the stuff there anyways).

The new, shiny thing always looks good from afar and is fun for a time. But the grass isn't ALWAYS greener....

Then again, you won't know unless you try it.
This. Pretty much any flagship smartphone is decent these days. If I were you I would give android a try, it might seem strange at first but then you will be used to it. I didn't find it that difficult to go to android so don't let that affect what you want to choose.
 

blitzer09x87

macrumors 6502
May 19, 2013
408
0
agreed, apple should also make a bigger iphone. samsung and htc are really stepping up the game, and the big hefty marketing budget of samsung makes sure that you know about their device. i'm also done with apple and waiting for the GS5.
 

The Game 161

macrumors Nehalem
Dec 15, 2010
30,991
20,174
UK
The fact the 5S will still have that tiny 4 inch screen is a joke..hell with that mini's are still bigger than the iphone 5 is embarrassing.
 

mattopotamus

macrumors G5
Jun 12, 2012
14,738
6,109
people expecting a bigger screen from apple should probably forget it. I would not be surprised if the iphone 6 kept a 4" screen....especially since they are trying to keep a consist screen size across their phones and slowly want to faze out the 3.5"

IMO, they already have passed the huge rush to bigger screens. If anything, we are going to start to see a trend back to smaller phones...hence these mini versions coming to the US
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
The fact the 5S will still have that tiny 4 inch screen is a joke..hell with that mini's are still bigger than the iphone 5 is embarrassing.

How is it embarassing? Millions of folks actually prefer this screen size.

I use both the larger display and the iPhone 5 display on a daily basis....never do I think "man this iPhone is embarrassingly tiny" nor do I have any trouble using it. In fact, sometimes I actually prefer the size of the iPhone.

Your post on the other hand, is embarrassingly ignorant.
 

ucfgrad93

macrumors Core
Aug 17, 2007
19,579
10,875
Colorado
I tried Android for the first time this year as well.

It's nice. Doesn't tickle my fancy, but I like it. Use a GS4 currently as my everyday, personal device. Still have my iPhone 5 for work and will hopefully be picking up the 5S.

Each OS has its flaws and advantages. The bigger screen is nice (went from a Nexus 4 to an HTC One now to a GS4) but I do like the size of my iPhone 5 quite a bit.

Just depends on what you want to do. My use case doesn't change from device to device. I've gotten used to the ways each OS does certain tasks so most things are easy for me on both and the annoyances I do experience are relatively minor.

I like having both in my everyday tech lineup. I find I gain perspective from using both - though many here don't want to hear perspective, they want to hear cheer-leading for their side.

Pick up an Android phone. You aren't offending Apple. If you like it, more power to you - though I'd venture to guess in a year or so you'll start getting bored again. Just the way society seems to be heading - faster upgrade times, more specs, more features (when most of us don't use half the stuff there anyways).

The new, shiny thing always looks good from afar and is fun for a time. But the grass isn't ALWAYS greener....

Then again, you won't know unless you try it.

I got a HTC One at the beginning of July. It is my first Android phone after several years of iPhones. No iOS or phone is perfect for everyone. For me, there are trade offs with my One.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
people expecting a bigger screen from apple should probably forget it. I would not be surprised if the iphone 6 kept a 4" screen....especially since they are trying to keep a consist screen size across their phones and slowly want to faze out the 3.5"

IMO, they already have passed the huge rush to bigger screens. If anything, we are going to start to see a trend back to smaller phones...hence these mini versions coming to the US

I think Apple will offer a larger display next year.

Though I also agree that we've hit the screen size wall.....the Mega is an absolute joke as a phone - and devices like the Note, however great they are, sales-wise are still niche devices.

The middle ground that we'll settle at is 4.5" - 5" keeping the overall size of the device down as small as possible. IMO the GS4 has done this superbly. I don't feel like I'm using a massive device because they keep the overall footprint very trim.

To that point, there are plenty of people who would run to a larger iPhone. There are also MANY who prefer the 4" (and even the 3.5") sizes. Because of this, Apple will release a larger iPhone 6 next year.

iPhone cheap
iPhone regular
iPhone large

Each updated yearly. I actually hope they do this. Offers options (in order to maximize marketshare) while keeping the line trim and efficient (so they don't turn into Samsung).

Hell, a person like me might be tempted to own all three at one point :p

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I got a HTC One at the beginning of July. It is my first Android phone after several years of iPhones. No iOS or phone is perfect for everyone. For me, there are trade offs with my One.

Completely agree.
 

BigHonkingDeal

macrumors 6502a
Feb 8, 2009
832
1,027
Fort Pierce
IMO, they already have passed the huge rush to bigger screens. If anything, we are going to start to see a trend back to smaller phones...hence these mini versions coming to the US

Well, I don't know about that.... My wife recently ditched her iPhone 4s for a Galaxy S4 Active and even so she's not that familiar with Android, when I offered that she could have my iPhone 5 after September 10 she passed.

She said it would be hard for her to go back to the small screen.
 

appleisking

macrumors 6502a
May 24, 2013
658
3,022
Yup, I'm actually gonna pick up a nexus 4 soon but I'm still not sure if I should wait for the next gen. release. For my needs, I think it's more than capable and I don't want to be tied to a contract and feel all the high-end phones are overpriced (not willing to spend more than 400 bucks on a phone). I may decide when Apple prices it's low-end phone but I'm sure the nexus will still be priced cheaper so no high hopes for that.
 

KentuckyHouse

macrumors 68030
Jan 29, 2010
2,723
998
Lexington, KY.
Millions of folks actually prefer this screen size.

To that point, there are plenty of people who would run to a larger iPhone. There are also MANY who prefer the 4" (and even the 3.5") sizes. Because of this, Apple will release a larger iPhone 6 next year.

I'm not going to get into an argument over this because it's not worth it. I will say this, though...

You know WHY some people say they prefer the 3.5" or 4" screens? Because they've never had a choice. I would be willing to bet just about anything, if you handed someone a 3.5" iPhone or 4" iPhone and then handed them a 5" iPhone and said choose...conservatively I'd say 75-80% would choose the larger screen. Conservatively.

Remember the posts last year when it became apparent that Apple was enlarging the screen on the upcoming iPhone 5? Remember all those people who were screaming and crying that they didn't want some huge screen...that 3.5" was the perfect size? Here we are a year later, and I'll guarantee you most of those people are now using the iPhone 5 or will be using the 5S shortly. You don't hear them griping now, do you? Why? Because they got a choice and they chose to move to the larger screened phone.

Screens are getting bigger...people (in general) like that...some of you need to realize it and move on.
 

verpeiler

macrumors 6502a
May 11, 2013
717
971
Munich, Germany
How is it embarassing? Millions of folks actually prefer this screen size.

I use both the larger display and the iPhone 5 display on a daily basis....never do I think "man this iPhone is embarrassingly tiny" nor do I have any trouble using it. In fact, sometimes I actually prefer the size of the iPhone.

Your post on the other hand, is embarrassingly ignorant.

Most people I know don't 'prefer' the size, they just got used to it. Like you get used to bigger phones eventually, you just have to try it.

I used the 3,5" iPhone for a long time... but after a Nexus4 and now a SGS4 I would never go back.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
I'm not going to get into an argument over this because it's not worth it. I will say this, though...

You know WHY some people say they prefer the 3.5" or 4" screens? Because they've never had a choice. I would be willing to bet just about anything, if you handed someone a 3.5" iPhone or 4" iPhone and then handed them a 5" iPhone and said choose...conservatively I'd say 75-80% would choose the larger screen. Conservatively.

Remember the posts last year when it became apparent that Apple was enlarging the screen on the upcoming iPhone 5? Remember all those people who were screaming and crying that they didn't want some huge screen...that 3.5" was the perfect size? Here we are a year later, and I'll guarantee you most of those people are now using the iPhone 5 or will be using the 5S shortly. You don't hear them griping now, do you? Why? Because they got a choice and they chose to move to the larger screened phone.

Screens are getting bigger...people (in general) like that...some of you need to realize it and move on.

I think you confuse WANT/LIKE for adapt.

And I also think you assume too much - but that's fine. Like I said, I think Apple will do it - we can see what happens.

But there are two people in my family (myself and my mother) who when faced with both a larger size and smaller size, actually preferred the smaller size (though I go back and forth). Reason my mom kept her 5 is because she wanted the latest hardware. Would've preferred it in the 3.5" package.

I thought she was crazy too - but there you go.
 

chabig

macrumors G4
Sep 6, 2002
11,458
9,325
Most people I know don't 'prefer' the size, they just got used to it. Like you get used to bigger phones eventually, you just have to try it.

Will I get used to buying pants with bigger pockets too? Will I get used to using both hands on the screen because I can't operate the device with just one hand? FWIW, I actually like the size of the iPhone.
 

verpeiler

macrumors 6502a
May 11, 2013
717
971
Munich, Germany
Will I get used to buying pants with bigger pockets too? Will I get used to using both hands on the screen because I can't operate the device with just one hand? FWIW, I actually like the size of the iPhone.
Yeah, more stupid comparisons please.. maybe next time something with cars... or football fields.
 

KentuckyHouse

macrumors 68030
Jan 29, 2010
2,723
998
Lexington, KY.
I think you confuse WANT/LIKE for adapt.

And I also think you assume too much - but that's fine. Like I said, I think Apple will do it - we can see what happens.

But there are two people in my family (myself and my mother) who when faced with both a larger size and smaller size, actually preferred the smaller size (though I go back and forth). Reason my mom kept her 5 is because she wanted the latest hardware. Would've preferred it in the 3.5" package.

I thought she was crazy too - but there you go.

No, I think you're right. I do think they'll eventually go to a larger screen. What that may be, who knows? 4.5? 4.7? 5?

I will confess this. When I mentioned to my wife that she could have my iPhone 5 at some point soon to upgrade from her 4S, she said she didn't really want a bigger screen. I seriously about fell over. But she also has tiny hands and fingers, so reaching all of the screen can be a problem.

And you're probably right...it's probably more of an "adapt" thing rather than a "choose" thing. And I'm sure I'm biased by my own like of bigger screens. But I really believe if Apple wants to maintain the huge base they've got, they need to up the screen size, even if it's just a little at a time. I know it will cause fragmentation, but at some point, larger screens are going to reach saturation and people in general are going to expect them. That's when Apple, with it's "this is what you want" mentality is going to find trouble.
 

jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
Yeah, more stupid comparisons please.. maybe next time something with cars... or football fields.

What? He was simply stating he preferred the iPhone because it fits his pockets well and he can use it easily one-handed....

Where the heck are you going with cars and football fields?

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No, I think you're right. I do think they'll eventually go to a larger screen. What that may be, who knows? 4.5? 4.7? 5?

I will confess this. When I mentioned to my wife that she could have my iPhone 5 at some point soon to upgrade from her 4S, she said she didn't really want a bigger screen. I seriously about fell over. But she also has tiny hands and fingers, so reaching all of the screen can be a problem.

And you're probably right...it's probably more of an "adapt" thing rather than a "choose" thing. And I'm sure I'm biased by my own like of bigger screens. But I really believe if Apple wants to maintain the huge base they've got, they need to up the screen size, even if it's just a little at a time. I know it will cause fragmentation, but at some point, larger screens are going to reach saturation and people in general are going to expect them. That's when Apple, with it's "this is what you want" mentality is going to find trouble.

I'll somewhat agree.

I don't think fragmentation will be a huge issue. I figured it out at one point, but the doubling of the current iPhone 5 resolution in a 4.7" display would yield a PPI roughly the same as the GS4 and HTC One.

From there it would be similar to what devs did for the retina iPad apps - doubling the scaling. Not too difficult.
 

daveathall

macrumors 68020
Aug 6, 2010
2,379
1,410
North Yorkshire
I tried Android for the first time this year as well.

It's nice. Doesn't tickle my fancy, but I like it. Use a GS4 currently as my everyday, personal device. Still have my iPhone 5 for work and will hopefully be picking up the 5S.

Each OS has its flaws and advantages. The bigger screen is nice (went from a Nexus 4 to an HTC One now to a GS4) but I do like the size of my iPhone 5 quite a bit.

Just depends on what you want to do. My use case doesn't change from device to device. I've gotten used to the ways each OS does certain tasks so most things are easy for me on both and the annoyances I do experience are relatively minor.

I like having both in my everyday tech lineup. I find I gain perspective from using both - though many here don't want to hear perspective, they want to hear cheer-leading for their side.

Pick up an Android phone. You aren't offending Apple. If you like it, more power to you - though I'd venture to guess in a year or so you'll start getting bored again. Just the way society seems to be heading - faster upgrade times, more specs, more features (when most of us don't use half the stuff there anyways).

The new, shiny thing always looks good from afar and is fun for a time. But the grass isn't ALWAYS greener....

Then again, you won't know unless you try it.

I like this post. Good to have both OS's and give a good personal view whether good or bad, I enjoy the perspective you give JR, I don't always agree, (It would be pretty boring world if we all did :)) but I respect your opinions from your user point of view, and enjoy reading them.:)

I really think that the best phone is now down to personal use and choice, for tech/phone enthusiasts its a great place to be.

I think the OP is wise to wait to see what Apple offer on the 10th, must admit I always wait in anticipation.
 
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jrswizzle

macrumors 603
Aug 23, 2012
6,107
129
McKinney, TX
I like this post. Good to have both OS's and give a good personal view whether good or bad, I enjoy the perspective you give JR, I don't always agree, (It would be pretty boring world if we all did :)) but I respect your opinions from your user point of view, and enjoy reading them.:)

I really think that the best phone is now down to personal use and choice, for tech/phone enthusiasts its a great place to be.

I think the OP is wise to wait to see what Apple offer on the 10th, must admit I always wait in anticipation.

Yup - its been fun being interested in both OSes.....lots more announcements to be excited for!

Sept 10th will be quite interesting - it also happens to be my wife's birthday :p
 

OceanView

macrumors 65816
Sep 16, 2005
1,094
39
You know WHY some people say they prefer the 3.5" or 4" screens? Because they've never had a choice. I would be willing to bet just about anything, if you handed someone a 3.5" iPhone or 4" iPhone and then handed them a 5" iPhone and said choose...conservatively I'd say 75-80% would choose the larger screen. Conservatively.

Remember the posts last year when it became apparent that Apple was enlarging the screen on the upcoming iPhone 5? Remember all those people who were screaming and crying that they didn't want some huge screen...that 3.5" was the perfect size? Here we are a year later, and I'll guarantee you most of those people are now using the iPhone 5 or will be using the 5S shortly. You don't hear them griping now, do you? Why? Because they got a choice and they chose to move to the larger screened phone.

Screens are getting bigger...people (in general) like that...some of you need to realize it and move on.

X 1000 !

This is what I've been trying to say.
I guess saying anything other than anything pro apple is like shouting into the wind here.
 

cwosigns

macrumors 68020
Jul 8, 2008
2,266
2,744
Columbus,OH
I have both an iPhone 5 (personal phone) and a Galaxy S III (work phone, but we are welcome to use it as our personal phone as well).

My GS3 sits plugged in on my desk. I use it for outbound calls, but my phone calls, texts and emails are forwarded to my iPhone. Why?

  • The iPhone's battery life is superior
  • The app quality in iOS is better IMHO
  • The iPhone fits better in my digital universe (Apple TV, MacBook, iPads)

To me there just isn't a good usage case for a drastically larger screen, especially when I have an iPad mini.
 

KUPARA

macrumors regular
Jul 30, 2013
109
0
I am using my 4s for 8 months now and recently helped my GF to choose an Android phone (S2, it's a good bang for the bucks here in Macedonia) and if I were to choose NOW after using the bigger screen, I would go with the S2.

The bigger screen just makes it more fun and attractive to use it. I'm a tech geek, not a screen lover, but the 4s screen feels so small now.

I would wait to see what will Apple present in September (software and hardware wise). If that's not good enough for my needs... welcome Android.
iOS 7 feels nice, but let's wait and see what the GM will bring. I think that an iOS with a 4.5 inch iPhone will be a HIT, but that's just me
 
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