I'm really after a better refresh rate, but if they want to pack in more power and features I'm all for it. For me, I just love the form factor of it.What would be the “Pro” features? What would be the selling point?
You are sure that no one at Apple sees it that? A trillion dollar company... you don't think they haven't thought of that scenario?I've been saying for a while now that the iPhone Pro's camera system on an iPad mini would make for a killer moviemaking device. The iPhone's screen is small for the kind of display-based view-finder one would need, and the iPad Pros are too big/wide to be convenient at it. The mini would be perfect for it. That all being said, I'm pretty sure no one at Apple looking at the mini sees it that way.
You are sure that no one at Apple sees it that? A trillion dollar company... you don't think they haven't thought of that scenario?
Pretty sure you don't have that kind of cannibalization happening or even close to happening. The iPad mini is not a popular product among those with Plus/Max sized iPhones. Incidentally, the use cases for both don't align enough for cannibalization to be a credible threat. But, sure.The iPhone is their bread winner... why disrupt that and place the iPhone Pro's camera system on an iPad Mini? Because it could potential lead consumers to buy a iPad Mini Pro when Apple rather have consumers buy the iPhone Pro.
Good point.I never said they haven't thought of it. I said that they don't see it that way. Big difference. And sure, maybe someone out of the thousands of people that work for that company agrees with me. But no one in any position to make it happen agrees with me. Though, that's splitting some serious hairs.
Its not necessarily a cannibalization type of thing... but it would clearly take some profit away from the iPhone Pro, which I don't think Apple desires to lead consumers in that direction.Pretty sure you don't have that kind of cannibalization happening or even close to happening. The iPad mini is not a popular product among those with Plus/Max sized iPhones. Incidentally, the use cases for both don't align enough for cannibalization to be a credible threat. But, sure.
First off, "take some profit away from the iPhone Pro" is the same thing as cannibalization. Cannibalization IS taking customers who would've bought thing A - which you are committed to selling as much of as possible - and directing them to thing B - which you are also committed to selling as much of as possible.Its not necessarily a cannibalization type of thing... but it would clearly take some profit away from the iPhone Pro, which I don't think Apple desires to lead consumers in that direction.
haha, ok ok, I don't really follow that, but I sort of feel like they have an upgrade coming this SeptPlus, hate to break it to you, this is not the year for an iPad mini announcement. An M2 based sixth generation iPad Air is far more likely for this fall.
I think the fact that one devices supports the pencil and the other cellular will keep buyers in line for each deviceThe iPhone is their bread winner... why disrupt that and place the iPhone Pro's camera system on an iPad Mini? Because it could potential lead consumers to buy a iPad Mini Pro when Apple rather have consumers buy the iPhone Pro.
If they had a pro line I think it'd be very successful, maybe enough to expand the market? How are the ipad pros now selling?From Apples PoV I don't think there is a big enough market to start splitting the Mini into regular and Pro.
You are right. I was more so referring to it won't lead to a huge dip in sales taken away from the iPhone Pro.First off, "take some profit away from the iPhone Pro" is the same thing as cannibalization. Cannibalization IS taking customers who would've bought thing A - which you are committed to selling as much of as possible - and directing them to thing B - which you are also committed to selling as much of as possible.
Huh? If the iPad Mini has the same camera system as a iPhone Pro... of course, it would take some sales away from the iPhone Pro. I don't see how you can deny that. A potential buyer will opt to buy a iPad Mini Pro than a iPhone Pro for video making content.. even you stated yourself it would be a perfect view finder.Secondly, Apple wouldn't be cannibalizing iPhone Pro sales with an iPad mini that can be used by Pros looking to capture with the same capability as an iPhone Pro because, again, it's different markets altogether. You'd more likely have it cannibalizing sales from the 11-inch iPad Pro, which is what people wanting to capture pro-grade video from an Apple device that isn't an iPhone are using. But, to be fair, that camera system on an iPad mini is a billion times more versatile anyway.
haha, ok ok, I don't really follow that, but I sort of feel like they have an upgrade coming this Sept
Making video content is far from the only reason people buy iPhone Pros. Most people who buy them don't make videos. Incidentally, Apple releasing an iPad mini with that camera system wouldn't cannibalize anywhere near enough sales from iPhone Pro models to matter. There will still be people that want to shoot on that phone and there will still be PLENTY of people buying that phone regardless.Huh? If the iPad Mini has the same camera system as a iPhone Pro... of course, it would take some sales away from the iPhone Pro. I don't see how you can deny that. A potential buyer will opt to buy a iPad Mini Pro than a iPhone Pro for video making content.. even you stated yourself it would be a perfect view finder.
You are right. I was more so referring to it won't lead to a huge dip in sales taken away from the iPhone Pro.
Huh? If the iPad Mini has the same camera system as a iPhone Pro... of course, it would take some sales away from the iPhone Pro. I don't see how you can deny that. A potential buyer will opt to buy a iPad Mini Pro than a iPhone Pro for video making content.. even you stated yourself it would be a perfect view finder.
And to add to that, you can even edit videos on the go using Final Cut Pro app. But the 11 inch iPad Pro doesn't necessarily have the same camera system in the iPhone Pro... they are more similar to a iPhone standard camera system that's found in the non-Pro iPhones.
The point I'm making is.... Apple don't care to break the wheel. Whether or not you think it wouldn't be anywhere near cannibalize iPhone Pro sales... it has the potential to happen.Making video content is far from the only reason people buy iPhone Pros. Most people who buy them don't make videos. Incidentally, Apple releasing an iPad mini with that camera system wouldn't cannibalize anywhere near enough sales from iPhone Pro models to matter. There will still be people that want to shoot on that phone and there will still be PLENTY of people buying that phone regardless.
Yeah. I'm hopeful anyways. I think the line has been neglected and if it had a pro model it'd be one of their best selling devices.Based on what? Your gut?
Chinese companies can make mini keyboards so it's not rocket science. They could do a mini Smart keyboard with the bonus of selling the Magic trackpad alongside for the perfect pairing. Apple must love the markup on their accessories, now they can sell 2.I don't think they'll make an iPad Mini Pro because the size would make a Magic Keyboard hard to design.
I agree with you, I hope there is a iPad mini refresh this year or maybe early next year, my current mini is in the hands of my kid and there are times the 12.9" is just too big. Funny enough originally I got the mini for me while I had a 11" IPP and the IPP was supposed to go to the kid, but she enjoyed the smaller size one. If a refresh does happen the only thing I want is higher brightness
It isn't the aspect ratio and of course when it comes to things like video content and some other stuff like editing photos too on the iPad is much more pleasant on the 12.9, but there have been times where I wanted something bigger than the iPhone and not wanting to lug around the 12.9 especially since a mini can fit in like a jacket pocket or somethingRelative bar size with varying video aspect ratios has never bothered me - I prefer the larger displayed image of the 12.9.