For context, my 2014 5K iMac runs at 40db on normal load. Maxing the fans makes it go up to 50-51db. And lately all it takes to do that is a zoom call.
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iMac 2020 Reviews And Benchmarks - The Last Intel iMac
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Agreed. The lack of a T2 chip is also an advantage. But the biggest reason I don't like the thing is that it prevents the ssd from being replaced/upgraded.
Every. Single. Mac ... that I have bought in the past 20 years (and there have been a ton - all the way from the g3 tower and white macbooks to the 2019 iMac and the 2015 15 and 13 inch macbook pros I have) on every single one of them I have upgraded the storage drive at some point.
In the case of the 2019 iMac, I did that a week after I bought it. (just used it enough to make sure there were no obvious issues that would require a return or warranty repair).
So yea, for me the T2 is poison. I keep my macs for a long time and not having that storage upgrade path is an absolute deal killer.
Am I the only one who is hugely worried about the on Logic Board non replaceable or upgradable SSD? Surely this is part of the Apple (read Tim Cook) Monopolisation of the entire Computer Production (Manufacture, Production, Upgrade, Service, Repair) Im starting to realise the end of me being able to adjust and repair my items is being rail-roaded into Boardroom Directives. Anyways the machine is a decent upgrade and I wouldn't mind if they did provide main drive onto board but no NVMe slot to add is pure control really sad times
In terms of self-repair and/or upgrade, not too concerned simply because of the T2. Even if it was socketed, can’t replace/upgrade yourself because the T2 won’t recognize it and boot especially since the T2 acts as the drive controller. Unless there is a way to bypass the T2 and a module with a built in controller is made compatible, the storage being soldered isn’t a big deal when it comes to that area.
What does concern me is repair costs. If the storage fails, I’m now looking at complete logic board replacement which is a lot more expensive.... Or if the GPU fries, now I’m looking at data loss too.
For those that like to get into their machines the Mini and iMacs have taken backward steps from the models that Jobs intro'd.
That and pushing the Mac Pro upstream with customised 'modules' (Shareholder Profit Modules...)
These aren't insurmountable problems to those 'can does' but the car industry is the same.
It's no longer about fixing things yourself it's about throw it and get a new one (and that will cost...)
Lock it down...and price it up.
Azrael.
I think Sony did a decent enough job on the PS4. Not quite as ground breaking as the PS3.
But very respectable performer.
I bought one as a present for someone. I had a go on Destiny by Bungie.
Clearly, the PS5 is looking a stunner with consumer ray tracing in games to look forward to.
Azrael.
All is software.
Badly optimised software can kill hardware no matter how beefy it is.
The Mac and Open GL and 2nd hand gaming ports over the last 20 years is testament to that.
Azrael.
Yeah thats main concern Hard drive failure generally speaking has been the most common issue in my 15 year usage with Apple across many different products etc even non apple Hard Drive failure represents about 75% of all the issues with PC ownership going on 28 years now lol
Yes. I'm sure those who want the Nano will see the value in it.
But I've forgotten what the rest of the video was about.
Azrael.
Same, but all storage failures have been the spinning types..... My experience with SSD's have been good so far.
Same here.
I had two spinning Hard Drive failures on the 24 inch iMac I had.
Both had to be replaced.
Azrael.
I’ve got a box with many failed HDDs and also a few SSDs in the attic waiting for the crusher someday. They both can fail and also both wear out. But with no moving parts SSDs are much better fit for mobile tech IMHO and also have overall lower fail rates, although that seems to increase over time as they wear out. Some good reference sites are out there on this with data. That’s what worries me about Apple soldering the SSD storage on now, they know it wears out over time even with over-provision and seem to treat the whole device as a consumable over not that many years.
It's monoplisation of the worst kind and it's un-American.
Actually I think its very American. Many US family fortunes were built on the profits from monopolization of markets.
Now that is concerning.... Close to 100 degrees even with the fan manually set to full blast. My 9900K will stay in the 80's doing Cinebench with the fan full blast.
Apple’s Last Dance With Intel: iMac 27″ 2020 Teardown (With X-rays)
It’s likely the last time we’ll see this familiar iMac build before Apple’s big chip change. Let’s look inside for tech upgrades, repair downgrades, and oddities.
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Another one for the base model from 9 to 5 Mac.
Mid tier with 5500xt vs iMac Pro
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Good question.
The current course of apple computer hardware has certainly given me great pause. As far as potentially upgradable macs we’re down to the Mac Pro, which is in the chilly stratosphere as far as price goes, as we all know.
So I’m certainly facing a crossroads. As it stands, for now I will continue to use and enjoy (and perhaps further upgrade) the macs I have now and procrastinate on making that cold, hard (and possible very sad) decision on what to do when it comes time to get my next generation of computer hardware.