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ascender

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Just searching through the various SSD threads on here but thought I'd ask in the hope someone is online today and been through this already.

I'm looking to replace the SATA HDD on my 2010 iMac with an SSD and was wondering if there's anywhere in the UK that sells all the extra pieces I need to do the work myself?
 

Exirion

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Jun 16, 2011
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Just searching through the various SSD threads on here but thought I'd ask in the hope someone is online today and been through this already.

I'm looking to replace the SATA HDD on my 2010 iMac with an SSD and was wondering if there's anywhere in the UK that sells all the extra pieces I need to do the work myself?
You don't need much :) Maybe you already have a TomTom or similar navigation system with a suction cup that mounts it to the windscreen. It's a perfect tool in order to get the glass plate off :D Then you need some torx tools for the display and harddisk, and that's about it. Or maybe a pair of paperclips can help to get the LCD panel out after removing the screws (at least, on my 2011 model).

Take a look at this guide: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac-Intel-27-Inch-Teardown/1236/1

I've done HDD/SDD swaps on 2 iMac 24" and one brand new 27" 2011 :)
 

ascender

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You don't need much :) Maybe you already have a TomTom or similar navigation system with a suction cup that mounts it to the windscreen. It's a perfect tool in order to get the glass plate off :D Then you need some torx tools for the display and harddisk, and that's about it. Or maybe a pair of paperclips can help to get the LCD panel out after removing the screws (at least, on my 2011 model).

Take a look at this guide: http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/iMac-Intel-27-Inch-Teardown/1236/1

I've done HDD/SDD swaps on 2 iMac 24" and one brand new 27" 2011 :)

Thanks for the info Exirion. Never even thought of the TomTom, very ingenious!

Is there a kit available which has the cables, sensors etc for the SDD?
 

dilgit

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I made a tiny daemon that fixes the noise issue too, for free :)

http://exirion.net/ssdfanctrl

Let me know if it works for you.
I've installed the daemon but the fan in my imac 2011 27" still goes on working non stop. This all happened after my technician installed a new 256GB Crucial M4 SSD in addition to the original 2TB HDD. Is there anything else I can do to stop the this noisy fan?
 

Exirion

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Jun 16, 2011
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I've installed the daemon but the fan in my imac 2011 27" still goes on working non stop. This all happened after my technician installed a new 256GB Crucial M4 SSD in addition to the original 2TB HDD. Is there anything else I can do to stop the this noisy fan?
In order to verify which fan is actually going wild, can you install the iStat Pro widget in your Dashboard? Under the "fans" header it shows the speeds of all 3 fans in your Mac. You can PM me if you like :)
 

The.316

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In order to verify which fan is actually going wild, can you install the iStat Pro widget in your Dashboard? Under the "fans" header it shows the speeds of all 3 fans in your Mac. You can PM me if you like :)

My optical fan is running real high right now. I replaced my optical drive with a SSD on my late 09 iMac, and it seems to be working fine until last night. Here is the image from iStat's widget:
 

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Exirion

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My optical fan is running real high right now. I replaced my optical drive with a SSD on my late 09 iMac, and it seems to be working fine until last night. Here is the image from iStat's widget:
I see what the problem is now :) My util was intended for replacement of the HDD with an SSD, and I didn't foresee the case in which the optical drive is replaced with an SSD :D

The good news is: easy to solve. The only issue is how to make it easily configurable which fan needs to be corrected, or make it autodetectable. For now, as a workaround, I can give you a version that limits both the HDD fan and optical drive fan speeds.
 

Exirion

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The only issue is how to make it easily configurable which fan needs to be corrected, or make it autodetectable.
Can you please show me the temperatures in iStat Pro? If the optical drive reports a bogus temperature, autodetection should be easy :)
 

The.316

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I see what the problem is now :) My util was intended for replacement of the HDD with an SSD, and I didn't foresee the case in which the optical drive is replaced with an SSD :D

The good news is: easy to solve. The only issue is how to make it easily configurable which fan needs to be corrected, or make it autodetectable. For now, as a workaround, I can give you a version that limits both the HDD fan and optical drive fan speeds.

So what is the next step?
 

Pelecoteco

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Jun 30, 2011
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Hi, I just replace my HDD on Imac 27 (early 2011) and now my fan speed is at maximum noise.

The problem is that i use windows 7 and i it doesn't have software to control the fan of Imac, so I think i has to be done by hardware.

I could not find the sensor to buy and install on my ssd

I was thing to improvise a Y cable (DIY) to get the both cables (HDD and Optical drive) conected on the same sensor of the Optical drive, expeting that both get the same read and same fan speed. What do you guys think?
 

komodo1

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Sep 12, 2011
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Hi all.
Civeports can you, please, confirm you used for your 2011 imac all the 3 products listed in Picho's post :
922-9485 - Pressure Wall, Optical/SSD/MXM
922-9538 - Cable, SSD HDD Data
922-9531 - Cable, AC/DC Power/Backlight/SATA, SSD
???

Does anyone know if it's applecomponents just temporary down or if it dosen't exists anymore?

Thanks in advance for all your great help.

I just bought a 27" i7 Quad-Core iMac which, has a second free onboard Sata600 connector on the main board so you can add the SSD as a second drive rather than replacing the HD or Superdrive. So I added the SSD into my iMac using using the apple cables and caddy as described by Picho in post #523 of this thread (thanks Picho!) bought from Applecomponents as described by Johnf1285 post #547 (Thanks johnf1285!)
...snip...
Hope that helps, feel free to PM me if you have any questions on breakdown and rebuild of the mac.
 
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roysters

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Mar 8, 2006
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Guys im literally about to stick a intel SSD in my 2010 mid imac.

I'm slightly confused on one thing. I want to replace the current drive, not add one. Do i have to remove logic board or is it just the case of opening up the machine and swapping the drives?

Cheers
 

btobey

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Sep 2, 2011
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No Fan Issues here

It seems installing an SSD in the 2010 is more difficult than the 2011.

Installing the SSD into the 2011 was fairly straight forward as long as you leave the original drive alone. Apple provides a spare SATA-III connector on the new iMacs. It works great without any fan issues.

Sorry I cannot help to answer your Y splitter options for the older iMacs.

Here is how I completed it:

2011 iMac SSD Install DIY

http://www.btobey.com/learn/imac-ssd-install.php
 

makdeniss

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Guys I have a questions:

You are all decreasing the fan speeds for the SSD. Is this normal to do? After I installed my SSD, HDD control shows my SSD temp rising to 58 degrees during 1-2 hours. Is it safe to leave the fans on about 1000 rpms for this temperature?

Or is it not the correct temperature measure of the HDD?
 

leftheaded

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May 10, 2010
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It seems installing an SSD in the 2010 is more difficult than the 2011.

Installing the SSD into the 2011 was fairly straight forward as long as you leave the original drive alone. Apple provides a spare SATA-III connector on the new iMacs. It works great without any fan issues.

Sorry I cannot help to answer your Y splitter options for the older iMacs.

Here is how I completed it:

2011 iMac SSD Install DIY

http://www.btobey.com/learn/imac-ssd-install.php

Thank you for posting this!! You made my day very easy... /beeryou


I'm happy to say that I followed this guide and had zero issues installing a new 240GB vertex 3. My drive came with firmware 2.11 out of the box so no issues at all on that front for anyone wondering whether or not the drive will work with your iMac.
 

Moridin3335

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Oct 1, 2011
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Guys I have a questions:

You are all decreasing the fan speeds for the SSD. Is this normal to do? After I installed my SSD, HDD control shows my SSD temp rising to 58 degrees during 1-2 hours. Is it safe to leave the fans on about 1000 rpms for this temperature?

Or is it not the correct temperature measure of the HDD?

Yeah I'm curious about this too. My fan is at around 2000 rpm atm and goes up to 3K - temperature holds at 46-48 degrees.
 

shortcut3d

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Aug 24, 2011
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Guys im literally about to stick a intel SSD in my 2010 mid imac.

I'm slightly confused on one thing. I want to replace the current drive, not add one. Do i have to remove logic board or is it just the case of opening up the machine and swapping the drives?

Cheers

Swapping the drives is an easy process. The complex issue is typically around splitting the power and splitting connecting SATA cables installing a second drive. A second drive typically requires removing the logic board to reach the SATA port. The proper install with pressure wall mount and power cable requires full disassembly.
 

btobey

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Sep 2, 2011
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Thank you for posting this!! You made my day very easy... /beeryou


I'm happy to say that I followed this guide and had zero issues installing a new 240GB vertex 3. My drive came with firmware 2.11 out of the box so no issues at all on that front for anyone wondering whether or not the drive will work with your iMac.

No problem. Im happy your Vertex worked out. Those drives are impressive!
 

simon567

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Mar 12, 2011
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Quick question, do I need any other Torx screwdrivers besides the T10 to remove the screen? Once you're inside is is just standard screws, or more torx?
 

iMacN00b

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Sep 9, 2010
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Sorry for being a N00b. I have a iMac 2.93 GHz i7 Mid 2010, I want to remove the HDD and swap it with an SSD. I am happy for the service center to do this, but want to buy a good SDD.

A few stupid N00B questions, (Sorry in advance)

- SATA Bus. I believe it is SATA2, but nearly all SSD's are SATA3 now, does it matter?

- Temp Sensor. I use MacFan on both OSX and Bootcamp to control fans. Do I need a special type of SSD with temp sensor?

- Best speed 120GB SSD that will work on the i7 Mid 2010 Imac 27"? Any suggestions?

If anyone is kind enough to answer, then thanks!
 

dannys1

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It seems installing an SSD in the 2010 is more difficult than the 2011.

Installing the SSD into the 2011 was fairly straight forward as long as you leave the original drive alone. Apple provides a spare SATA-III connector on the new iMacs. It works great without any fan issues.

Sorry I cannot help to answer your Y splitter options for the older iMacs.

Here is how I completed it:

2011 iMac SSD Install DIY

http://www.btobey.com/learn/imac-ssd-install.php

Hi Btobey.

Great guide - Id like to add a little and ask a little about this.

Ive just sold my late 2009 27" iMac which was a beast. I had fitted 2x Intel X25m G2 drives in a Raid 0 configuration. Removing the optical drive completely and replacing with an optibay holding the SSD.

The reason I've sold is because I wanted to upgrade to the mid 2011 iMac and make use of 6bps sata and the newer Vertex 3 drives - I like being on the bleeding edge.

I see thinks have changed a little since I did my 2009 machine (somewhere in the first few pages of this thread) by looking at your tutorial which is quite different.

I notice you've found another connector under the board and left the optical drive in. What bus does this cable work on? I presume its sharing it with the optical drive - or is it even sharing it with the main hard drive? Im guessing there are only two separate 6gbps buses on the iMac logic board?

Once again I'm not bothered about the optical drive, I haven't used optical media for over 7 years now so I'm quite happy to remove the drive again - especially if it wants to share the bus.

If removing the optical drive - I presume it already has the 6gbps sata connector available, what converters do you need (if any) for the 2011 model, I know I had a bit of a nightmare finding the correct converter for my 2009 machine to enable the SSD to go into the old optical drive cable.

If replacing the main hard drive as well I presume Apple are still running the same temperature cable to the jumpers in the new models which need shorting with a terminal connector?

Also I will be doing raid 0 again. I just wanted to pick up on the end of your post where you aggressively use the word "disk wear". It makes it sound like the SSDs would physically be wearing out and breaking down. This isn't the case at all. I ran the dual Intels for 2 years...obviously with no trim, and I think I had the firmware which they had put on which virtually turned off garbage collection. Remember its not PHYSICAL degradation that happens to SSD's, its nothing a recondition can't sort out. However in 2 years I only had to do this once...the speed was insane and I barely lost any write speed after two years. Read speed is NEVER affected, its only write due to, basically, the SSD version of fragmentation over the drives.

As OSX is so easy to clone, move, boot, rearrange - I just cloned the system, formatted the drives, reconditioned each disk with diglloyd tools, remade the raid 0 and cloned OSX back onto them, performance back to normal, took no more than an hour or so.

This time i'll hope to break the 1000mbps per second read and write barrier. But to do this I'm going to have to make sure I find the connectors on the two separate buses.

So to clarify.

which bus does the spare connector share?
Is the optical drive drive on the spare connector bus?
Is the optical drive cable on a separate bus to the main drive?
what converter do you need to go from the optical cable to the main drive
I presume the 9.5mm optibay still fits in place if removing optical drive
Does the main hard drive still need the sensor cable shorted.

Thanks in advance.
 
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