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With all this discussion about the iMac should I cancel the 24" 2.8 ghz I just ordered? Yikes after reading all this stuff why would anyone purchase an iMac?... Will someone please give me some encouragement? :confused:

I have the above mentioned model and love it! :D

Would I like a better GPU... yes, I guess. But hey, what can you do - it still runs super sweet 99.99% of the time. Only gamers would notice a big diff.

2.8GHz C2E rocks hard; a really quick CPU.

If you bought one tomorrow you would never regret it,

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2.8GHz C2E 4GB RAM 750GB HD:apple:
 
iMac 24" 2.8 ghz

Thank you both at least there's two happy customers. will try to remember to come back and let you know how it is after I get it. :)

I forgot to ask Apple - if I add more ram later, does that void the warranty or Apple Care? Why does Apple charge so much for their ram? jeez ridiculous.

Tx.
 
Adding RAM doesn't void the warranty unless you install it wrong or use the wrong type and something happens.

Apple justifies the price of APPLECARE by claiming its far superior to other companies repair/warranty services.

In my actual experience, Apple products are designed to last just a few days longer than 4 years (1 year warranty + 3 years of apple care). That way, Apple makes the most $ off of your purchase and at the end of 4 years, you can make expensive repairs or buy a new computer. Don't get me wrong though, PC's aren't any better, since most come with 3 year warranties, they're aimed at dying 3 years + 1 day.
 
Adding RAM doesn't void the warranty unless you install it wrong or use the wrong type and something happens.

Apple justifies the price of APPLECARE by claiming its far superior to other companies repair/warranty services.

In my actual experience, Apple products are designed to last just a few days longer than 4 years (1 year warranty + 3 years of apple care). That way, Apple makes the most $ off of your purchase and at the end of 4 years, you can make expensive repairs or buy a new computer. Don't get me wrong though, PC's aren't any better, since most come with 3 year warranties, they're aimed at dying 3 years + 1 day.

Also, most people will upgrade within that 4-year time span.
 
Am I missing something here? Since when does AppleCare give you 4 years of warranty?

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My (very old) discount Desktop WinXP PC is on it’s last steps (hard drive barley holding together, and just to old overall), I am planning to get an iMac, or maybe some sort of apple portable computer since I am planning to study design by the end of the year, soon so I already have a new Computer before my current one finally bites the dust.

So now I am not sure, should I wait? Should I pick one of those current ones? How common is it that apple takes month and month above it’s average update times?

My concern with this is that it will have to hold up several years, when I am studying I will not have the money to replace it in 3 years or something (unless things are extraordinary well financially)… but it needs to do it’s job as long as possible… so is it better to wait even if it means no computer for a while (actually need to have one bad…)

I am very torrent inbetwen… some of these mac updates have been hugh in price and contend updates… I don’t want to invest in something that might be replaced by something a lot better tomorrow if they happen to just release it tomorrow….

Any good guids on this >_>
 
Am I missing something here? Since when does AppleCare give you 4 years of warranty?

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ride the 1 yr manufactor warranty and then purchase a 3 yr apple care plan just seconds before the 1 yr warranty runs out ...thereby bringing you to a total of 4 years of Mac coverage for the low low price of 3 years.
 
If you want a 4 year warranty, purchase both your computer and Applecare with a credit card (preferably AmEx) that doubles the manufacturer's original warranty. The 4th year mirrors the 1 year original warranty and will be covered by the CC company.
 
3. Matte Screen Option

I hope so. Right now, this is the sole deciding factor as to whether my next computer will be a Mac or a PC.

I know people who were potential switchers who were utterly turned off by the glossy screen and ended up going the PC route. (One of my colleagues' response to learning the glossy-only thing was, "What the f___ is Apple thinking?") Apple is most definitely losing potential sales because of the lack of display options for the iMac. If they insist on the consumer level machines being all-in-one, they sure better start offering some reasonable options. (And no, don't tell me to go buy an underpowered Mac Mini with a display I want. That's ridiculous.)
 
So, the Operating System, the software that runs on it, and everything else BUT the screen are completely irrelevant?

Very strange comment...maybe you should just buy a monitor? :)

I hope so. Right now, this is the sole deciding factor as to whether my next computer will be a Mac or a PC.

I know people who were potential switchers who were utterly turned off by the glossy screen and ended up going the PC route. (One of my colleagues' response to learning the glossy-only thing was, "What the f___ is Apple thinking?") Apple is most definitely losing potential sales because of the lack of display options for the iMac. If they insist on the consumer level machines being all-in-one, they sure better start offering some reasonable options. (And no, don't tell me to go buy an underpowered Mac Mini with a display I want. That's ridiculous.)
 
I would guess Post-Spring with a better graphics card and maybe new processor. It would be nice to see a BluRay drive, but that will go in the professional desktop first.
 
If I change iMac Harddisk would that void the warranty?

That would most definitely void your warrantee. The only thing you are allowed to change on the current iMacs is the RAM.

When is the last date I can purchase an Applecare?

You have to purchase Applecare BEFORE your original 1 year warrantee expires, otherwise it won't be valid. It's better to do it as soon as possible as you can only utilise the 1 year telephone support within the 1st year.
 
Apple Warranty

Adding RAM doesn't void the warranty unless you install it wrong or use the wrong type and something happens.

Apple justifies the price of APPLECARE by claiming its far superior to other companies repair/warranty services.

In my actual experience, Apple products are designed to last just a few days longer than 4 years (1 year warranty + 3 years of apple care). That way, Apple makes the most $ off of your purchase and at the end of 4 years, you can make expensive repairs or buy a new computer. Don't get me wrong though, PC's aren't any better, since most come with 3 year warranties, they're aimed at dying 3 years + 1 day.

That has never been the case for me. My son still has a clamshell laptop that I gave him a long time ago and I believe it's still working. He also has a G4 that's at least 5 years old now. I like to purchase a new machine every 3 years to keep up with the changing technology. I give my hand-me-downs to my son and he has them for an additional 3 years and then he passes them on to someone. Most issues I've had have been with laptops or iPods and you can't beat having Apple Care no matter what. It's well worth the insurance. But that's just my humble opinion.
 
Extended Warranty

If you want a 4 year warranty, purchase both your computer and Applecare with a credit card (preferably AmEx) that doubles the manufacturer's original warranty. The 4th year mirrors the 1 year original warranty and will be covered by the CC company.

Really? Is it only with AmEX? I'll have to check my CC, too late for me now but it's good to know for future reference. I'm going to check into this.
 
Really? Is it only with AmEX? I'll have to check my CC, too late for me now but it's good to know for future reference. I'm going to check into this.

Both VISA and Mastercard do offer extended warranty coverage for doubling the original manurfacturer's warranty of up to 1 year. However, it won't work with Mastercard when it comes to AppleCare because Mastercard requires any purchased optional extended warranty to be 1 year or less and AppleCare is 2 years of additional protection. VISA won't cover it if you purchase an extended warranty.

For example, if you buy an iMac without AppleCare with AmEx (no matter what color card you have), eligible VISA or Mastercard, you're covered for 2 years. If you purchase AppleCare, only AmEx will provide additional one year of coverage after it ends. However, if you charge an iPhone and AppleCare to Mastercard, you're covered for 3 years (since AppleCare for the iPhone is only 1 year of additional protection vs. 2 years for the iMac).
 
I hope so. Right now, this is the sole deciding factor as to whether my next computer will be a Mac or a PC.

I know people who were potential switchers who were utterly turned off by the glossy screen and ended up going the PC route. (One of my colleagues' response to learning the glossy-only thing was, "What the f___ is Apple thinking?") Apple is most definitely losing potential sales because of the lack of display options for the iMac. If they insist on the consumer level machines being all-in-one, they sure better start offering some reasonable options. (And no, don't tell me to go buy an underpowered Mac Mini with a display I want. That's ridiculous.)

Send a written letter (not an email) to Steve Jobs telling him your story of a potential switch to a PC because of a lack of a matte option.

I sent a similar letter a few weeks ago and got a call from a very friendly Apple executive. We need more letters like this to voice our opinion that not everyone prefers glossy screens.
 
Send a written letter (not an email) to Steve Jobs telling him your story of a potential switch to a PC because of a lack of a matte option.

I sent a similar letter a few weeks ago and got a call from a very friendly Apple executive. We need more letters like this to voice our opinion that not everyone prefers glossy screens.

Perhaps, but based on record sales in the last quarter, I'd say Apple is pulling in more PC to Apple switchers with the iMac than ever before. It all comes down to the economics. For apple, the amount of $ they're losing in potential iMac matte screen sales is smaller then $ it would cost to offer a matte option (requires almost a complete seperate manufactoring line to produce, since the iMac is a closed system).

The other thing is, the iMac isn't truly a professional option. Say what you will, but Apple would much rather you shell out the xtra dough for an ACD and Mac Pro. Plus, the Mac Pro is ultimately the better option for professionals who apparently require a matte screen (upgradability,etc.)
 
So, the Operating System, the software that runs on it, and everything else BUT the screen are completely irrelevant?

Very strange comment...maybe you should just buy a monitor? :)

I don't know if you're joking or not so pardon me if this sounds over defensive, but a lot of people around here seem to be so eager to defend everything Apple does that they refuse to accept the idea that a glossy screen is a deal-breaker. End of story.

Yeah, I love OS X and the software, but if I have to use those things while staring at a headache-inducing and distracting screen, then I have no choice but to look elsewhere and I'll be damned if I'm going to pay out extra for a second monitor just to make up for a very dumb decision by Apple to refuse to give their customers a reasonable choice on this matter.
 
That has never been the case for me. My son still has a clamshell laptop that I gave him a long time ago and I believe it's still working. He also has a G4 that's at least 5 years old now. I like to purchase a new machine every 3 years to keep up with the changing technology. I give my hand-me-downs to my son and he has them for an additional 3 years and then he passes them on to someone. Most issues I've had have been with laptops or iPods and you can't beat having Apple Care no matter what. It's well worth the insurance. But that's just my humble opinion.

I've got a G3 from the late 90's thats still ticking. However, it hasn't gotten that much abuse. My prediction on the 3-4 year cycle is based on heavy use, such as professional or people that leave their computers on 24/7 for extended periods. However, you most certianly can beat AppleCare (fix it yourself) unless its with the new iMac's, which are ridiculously difficult to open and close w/o messing something up. Honestly though, if it makes it through the first year, chances are it'll keep ticking through the next 3, unless you're insanely abusing your computer.
 
Any chance of an LED-lit display in either model? I haven't heard any news / rumors of LED-lit displays in the 20" or 24" range, but the "Greener Apple" letter stated this:
Apple plans to reduce and eventually eliminate the use of mercury by transitioning to LED backlighting for all displays when technically and economically feasible.
Hopefully this won't take too long.
 
Send a written letter (not an email) to Steve Jobs telling him your story of a potential switch to a PC because of a lack of a matte option.

I sent a similar letter a few weeks ago and got a call from a very friendly Apple executive. We need more letters like this to voice our opinion that not everyone prefers glossy screens.

I've submitted two emails through their customer support site, but I was considering actually phoning and complaining about it. I hadn't considered a written letter. I may do that.

I really, truly, honestly do not want to switch to Windows, but I have the technical background to do so without too much effort and I could abandon OS X with a minor amount of fuss. I've already got a couple of HPs picked out and I'm almost at the point of making the jump. It's not something I really want to do, but if Apple doesn't sell what I want, I can't buy it.

I'll do whatever I can do to get them to hear this message and then hope for the best with the next iMac revision.
 
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