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iLife 09 is bloated crap. iPhoto 09 is unstable, buggy and simply slow. It is far worse than its predecessor and the only real shame is that there isn't a good alternative.

GarageBand has turned into yet another revenue stream for Apple.

Also, if you're looking forward to "compatibility" with standard document formats like .doc and .xls, iWork is NOT for you. It struggles with simple formatting when importing and does a terrible job of exporting to these formats.

That 2-3 hours of removing Dell's preinstalled stuff is going to be replaced by 2-3 weeks of hoping and praying you can find software to make your computer do what you want it to do.

Take image editing. On Windows, you get Paint. For all the criticism it gets, Paint is an excellent piece of software which does its job admirably. It's fast, good for quick edits and is also fun too. Show me the free software for OS X that does this as well as paint does. There simply isn't one.

I hope that provides some much needed balance to this topic!

Good luck with that. You'll soon get used to companies simply abandoning support for their peripherals on Mac OS even when they are releasing new drivers for Windows. My printer doesn't "just work" with OS X and there are many thousands of other models that will be the same.

I had to download some third party software, some strange Unix driver extension and then the driver itself to get mine to work with my Mac. Samsung's drivers for Mac are years out of date.

I can't speak for iLife '09, as I haven't used it (yet). If you have compatibility issues with iWork, download OpenOffice for free. It's very good with MS Office compatibility and its completely native now (no more X11 :)).

I've had mixed results with printers - my laser "just works," but my HP had to have a driver installed.

If you are so Paint dependent, get GIMP - again, free, 100% OS X native and almost as good as Photoshop - i.e., worlds better than Paint.

Is transitioning from PC to Mac painless? Uh, no. Is it a terrible headache as some have suggested? No. Just be prepared for it to be "different." And sometimes different is GOOD. :D
 
Welcome to a world of no idiot ballons or annoying pop ups. =)

Hint:
Just don't uninstall "Installer" or anything you don't know about. Mac is not a PC.

Also, more info https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=7012495#2

I beleive this function has been built into OSX itself for years now.....

Yup. Someone obviously don't know the difference between built in PDF converter from iWork.
iWork does not make PDF documents, since the PDF conversion is included as a free system wide tool.
 
Take image editing. On Windows, you get Paint. For all the criticism it gets, Paint is an excellent piece of software which does its job admirably. It's fast, good for quick edits and is also fun too. Show me the free software for OS X that does this as well as paint does. There simply isn't one.

Plenty of free software with way more functionality than Paint. Just because you don't know doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You might want to check out Macupdate.com or versiontracker.com

For example, Gimp.
http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/Overview.html


I had to download some third party software, some strange Unix driver extension and then the driver itself to get mine to work with my Mac. Samsung's drivers for Mac are years out of date.

Samsungs typically makes low end crappy products with low initial cost but high operation costs. Look up reviews.

All reputable companies have easy to install drivers for OSX.

I am hoping it will be 2 - 3 weeks of learning rather than removing with the added bonus of a more stable platform.

Actually more like 2-3 hours. Perhaps 2-3 weeks for those who do it the run about windows way.

Some of this has been fixed by incremental software updates. However, you're going to become very familiar with this little icon:

beachball2.png

I have not seen the spinning beach ball for a long time.

Pretty much the only time you get it is when you have network shares connected and go off the network. With fully updated system, Finder will try to find the volumes with spinning beach ball for like 15 seconds and then give you a volume disconnect screen. However, you can still work on other apps so it's a non issue.

Perhaps someone screwed up his computer but don't know how to google, and can't seem to know how to have the Genius Bar to fix it (for free under warranty).


http://paintbrush.sourceforge.net/

Simply amazing what a google search can find.


On a side note, how do you get 1600+ posts on a Mac site when you so obviously dislike Macs.

Exactly.

Some people like to complain. Or don't sleep enough. Have other issues, or simply don't know how to google.

This is exactly the kind of thing I am talking about. Where are the figures to back this statement up?

There is no evidence that "most" switchers love the choice they made because only a handful ever report their experience publicly (on the internet).

This is exactly the kind of thing I am talking about. Where are the figures to back this statement up?

There is no evidence that "most" switchers love the choice they made because only a handful ever report their experience publicly (on the internet).

Article from AppleInsider:
http://www.roughlydrafted.com/2009/02/18/apple-leads-2009-customer-satisfaction-survey/
 
Plenty of free software with way more functionality than Paint. Just because you don't know doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You might want to check out Macupdate.com or versiontracker.com

For example, Gimp.
http://gimp.lisanet.de/Website/Overview.html

Let me rephrase - Paint is included with Windows. Gimp and whatever else you can find on the internet is not. For every free Mac image editor there are countless more for Windows.

Samsungs typically makes low end crappy products with low initial cost but high operation costs. Look up reviews.

All reputable companies have easy to install drivers for OSX.

Actually, I've owned this printer for several years and have made many thousands of prints. It's only just looking like it's needing its third toner cartridge. I've had better value for money out of this unit than any other printer that I've used, and I've tried Canon, Epson and HP.

I've owned two Samsung televisions and both have been flawless. I am very impressed with everything Samsung do.



Actually more like 2-3 hours. Perhaps 2-3 weeks for those who do it the run about windows way.

It took me six months to be comfortable using my iBook every day. Of course within a few hours you'll know how to do a few things but that doesn't mean you can be more productive with your Mac in that time.


I have not seen the spinning beach ball for a long time.

Pretty much the only time you get it is when you have network shares connected and go off the network. With fully updated system, Finder will try to find the volumes with spinning beach ball for like 15 seconds and then give you a volume disconnect screen. However, you can still work on other apps so it's a non issue.

Perhaps someone screwed up his computer but don't know how to google, and can't seem to know how to have the Genius Bar to fix it (for free under warranty).



Genius bar huh? That would be the one that's two hours drive from me?

The last time I visited I took a faulty Time Capsule back to them. I printed the output from Console and took it to them and they did not have a clue what any of it meant and completely disregarded it.

I don't work with network drives (since I got rid of my Time Capsule, I'll never buy Apple's networking equipment ever again) but I see that beach ball several times a week. The worst offender is Safari, closely followed by iTunes and recently iPhoto has developed an unsolvable problem where it will crash every time I try to import photos from my iPhone's camera.


For what it's worth, a Mac is undeniably an American computer. You can set up other languages but software like iWork will never play ball with them. I want my documents to be spell checked in British English. I've done everything that I possibly can on my machine to get it to do this but it continually returns the spelling to "English" each time I create a new paragraph or open a new document. It's infuriating, not just because the interface has failed in its attempt to distinguish between the two languages.

Safari 4 beta paints a bleak picture for the future too. The search box takes you to Google.com and there is no way to customise it. Who knows whether they'll add that functionality.

The sample of the survey is not described in any way at all. It's simply "3115 consumers", which is basically like saying 3115 people. Unless they give more information on this the survey is not reliable.

Did the survey ask the people who saw their Macbooks discolour or crack for their opinion? Did they ask the people who have suffered data loss to a Time Machine drive? Did they ask the people who have seen their MacBook Pros graphics chip go up in smoke?

In any case, it's not surprising that the satisfaction is higher. You pay a lot more for a Mac than a comparable machine from elsewhere. The question which people should be asking is whether the price of admission is worth it. I don't see any questions in this survey about value for money.

I could write a list as long as this relating to problems I've had with Windows too. I don't think either is superior and it just happens that right now I've landed up with a Mac. What I do know though is that people seem to be paying a LOT more (the OP mentions he spent £2000 on a machine with a Core 2 Duo) for machines which do things differently to (but not necessarily better than) those which they are replacing.
 
Let me rephrase - Paint is included with Windows. Gimp and whatever else you can find on the internet is not. For every free Mac image editor there are countless more for Windows.

It took me longer to type the friggen thing than to google the damn paint app.

Do you complain that you have to install anti-virus, anti-spyware, AND internet firewall on windows? There are plenty more things that don't come with windows.

No virus, good design and superior usability which results in time savings are worth money for many users. Ever heard "TIME IS MONEY"? I work with windows and OSX every day. OSX definitely better at not wasting time.

You should read up on some "how to" guides to learn how to use OSX.

Repair permissions. Settings don't reset unless you don't have it set properly or the permissions are messed up.

As to Safari 4. It's a BETA. FYI, the search box CAN be modified easily.
 
Relax

I could write a list as long as this relating to problems I've had with Windows too. I don't think either is superior and it just happens that right now I've landed up with a Mac. What I do know though is that people seem to be paying a LOT more (the OP mentions he spent £2000 on a machine with a Core 2 Duo) for machines which do things differently to (but not necessarily better than) those which they are replacing.


I know I could get a better deal from DELL (bleh) or Toshiba but I choose not to. Don't think everyone here is so dense that they think Apple the best computer in the world. But we are hyped up about our computers so expect some praise in the forums.

I am willing to pay extra for good service alone. How much extra is based on my personal income. If everyone agreed with you that Apple was overpriced then they would be out of business. But I can afford an iMac.
 
I know I could get a better deal from DELL (bleh) or Toshiba but I choose not to. Don't think everyone here is so dense that they think Apple the best computer in the world. But we are hyped up about our computers so expect some praise in the forums.

I am willing to pay extra for good service alone. How much extra is based on my personal income. If everyone agreed with you that Apple was overpriced then they would be out of business. But I can afford an iMac.


Winner.
 
Safari 4 beta paints a bleak picture for the future too. The search box takes you to Google.com and there is no way to customise it. Who knows whether they'll add that functionality.

Whilst I agree with your argument, I felt this was a weak point, even though I accept what you're trying to say. I too find the difficulty of getting British (proper ;)) English to play nice is somewhat of a pain in the backside, Safari 4 is a beta and the only way to get this problem changed is to attempt to get your points across to the developers. I'm sure you're aware that Beta software rarely reflects the finished product exactly and personally, I have doubts about the new layout of Safari being exactly as it is now in the final release.

But to the OP: I would recommend CleanMyMac if you worry about clogging your Mac up with garbage. A lot of people don't realise the amount of disk space consumed by Universal binaries (applications that are coded to work on both PPC Macs and Intel Macs). After all, the code has to be compiled from two different code bases, so it is the equivalent of having two of the same program on your computer. The same is true of multilingual binaries, a lot of disk space can be consumed by language packs that you'll never use. CleanMyMac basically streamlines your applications and OS X by removing all the disk-hoggers that you choose. It will give you a list of applications that can be streamlined and ask you which apps you wish to 'clean' and which parts of those apps you wish to 'clean.'

It's still a little rough around the edges release-wise, but it's mature enough to be retailable software. I was somewhat sceptical of it at first, worried that it would end up wreaking havoc in my Applications folder and end up corrupting a load of my applications, but after a few nervously agreed runs, it has done a great job, freeing up something around 5GB from my hard disk.

It's a great app, but as with anything with this kind of potential risk, exercise caution at all times (unless you have a Time Machine backup and time to spare, in which case, go nuts ;))
 
It took me longer to type the friggen thing than to google the damn paint app.

Do you complain that you have to install anti-virus, anti-spyware, AND internet firewall on windows? There are plenty more things that don't come with windows.

No virus, good design and superior usability which results in time savings are worth money for many users. Ever heard "TIME IS MONEY"? I work with windows and OSX every day. OSX definitely better at not wasting time.

You should read up on some "how to" guides to learn how to use OSX.

On the contrary, perhaps you aren't familiar enough with modern editions of Windows to realise how stable they are and how well they perform.

I've never used anti-virus in my life on any machine I've ever owned. I've never had problems aside from one virus I got very soon after the launch of Windows XP which spread to just about everyone. Microsoft closed that hole and these days you have to do something pretty catastrophically wrong to get a virus on a Windows machine.

I've noticed that friends who have sought my help in solving problems with their Windows machines almost always have anti-virus. To me, it causes way more problems than it solves. Windows has had a built in Firewall for many years.

As to Safari 4. It's a BETA. FYI, the search box CAN be modified easily.

Let me guess, using a text editor or the terminal?

Repair permissions. Settings don't reset unless you don't have it set properly or the permissions are messed up.

If the permissions need repaired, great. I know how to do that. I've had to do it enough times in the past. But I worry for people who buy a Mac thinking that they "just work" and then realise that they don't.

Again, I reiterate my point that I don't think a Mac is inferior to a Windows machine. I think that you pay more and get better build quality, but what you don't get is a machine which "just works" or is in any way superior to a Windows machine. It's just different.
 
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