iMAc now or wait a little while?

[cjmillsnun]

I hate to tell you, but these are revision A's. This is the FIRST 21.5 inch iMac and the FIRST 27 inch iMac, with all new architecture inside. If the screen sizes were still 20 and 24 inches, you would be right. But as it stands, these are revision A's and do suffer the dreaded revision A syndrome that has been an all too common occurence with Apple over the years.

Mine doesn't suffer from it. It's absolutely perfect. White screen and grey screen from top to bottom with no yellow, flickering, noisy HD, crashes or anything of the sort.

It's a beautiful computer, that EXCEEDS my expectations.

 

[Buzz Bumble]

I hate to tell you, but these are revision A's. This is the FIRST 21.5 inch iMac and the FIRST 27 inch iMac, with all new architecture inside. If the screen sizes were still 20 and 24 inches, you would be right. But as it stands, these are revision A's and do suffer the dreaded revision A syndrome that has been an all too common occurence with Apple over the years.

Yep. The latest iMacs obviously are "rev a" products ... but it should be noted that these "version 1.0" problems are not just an Apple problem. You get the same thing every industry where the newest products have bugs and problems. In fact in some industries it can take years for those problems to even become apparent (e.g. software that keeps falling over, cars that rust from the inside, medicines with bad side-effects, etc., etc.).

It also doesn't necessarily affect everyone or is even noticed by everyone. No doubt there are some people with the "yellow-tinge" problem who simply think the screen has "nice, warm colours". There's also the "squeaky wheel" aspect where only those with problems post complaints, while those with no problems are simply using their new product happily.

Personally I would never buy a "rev a" / "version 1.0" product, and neither should anyone who needs that product for work purposes. It's better continue using the product you already have which you know works and let others do the bug-testing, and then get the "rev B" / "version 1.1" product that works.

 

[TennisandMusic]

Mine doesn't suffer from it. It's absolutely perfect. White screen and grey screen from top to bottom with no yellow, flickering, noisy HD, crashes or anything of the sort.

It's a beautiful computer, that EXCEEDS my expectations.

Can you take a picture of your screen with the gray bars being displayed?

 

[SaSaSushi]

But as it stands, these are revision A's and do suffer the dreaded revision A syndrome that has been an all too common occurence with Apple over the years.

One of us actually owns one of the new machines. I do, therefore, feel sort of uniquely qualified to speak of its qualities and as yet non-existent dreaded sufferings.

I also owned a mid-2007 24" iMac prior to this one, the one that started the line this model updates.

Hey, you're not obligated to go out and buy a new iMac either. But do feel free to spread anti-iMac hype instead.

Problems exist for some users as they do with every new update. I'm not denying this. The problems are not, however, a product line-wide manufacturing flaw, sorry. My week 47 i7 is proof of that.

 

[TennisandMusic]

One of us actually owns one of the new machines. I do, therefore, feel sort of uniquely qualified to speak of its qualities and as yet non-existent dreaded sufferings.

I also owned a mid-2007 24" iMac prior to this one, the one that started the line this model updates.

Hey, you're not obligated to go out and buy a new iMac either. But do feel free to spread anti-iMac hype instead.

Problems exist for some users as they do with every new update. I'm not denying this. The problems are not, however, a product line-wide manufacturing flaw, sorry. My week 47 i7 is proof of that.

Can you post a pic of the test?

 

[Sir Cecil]

Can you take a picture of your screen with the gray bars being displayed?

LOL!!!!! Do you think he's lying just to make you think he's luckier than you?
Or do you think he's too stupid to notice the difference and needs your guidance?
I can just imagine you peering studiously at some 2 megapixel picture taken under flourescent lighting and from an off-center angle, and then proclaiming that YOU can see the yellow peril so it IS there whether he agrees or not.
Wake up and accept plenty of other people don't have this issue. And it's not because they are too blind to notice or can't be bothered to see it. I don't have it, many others don't have it and your daft campaign to tell us we're all color blind is pitiful.
Just exchange your machine and move on.
And if you have another bout of bad luck, try again.
And again.
Just like the way you keep asking people for photos of the test, again, and again and again, on more threads than just this one.
Sad.

 

[Sir Cecil]

Mine doesn't suffer from it. It's absolutely perfect. White screen and grey screen from top to bottom with no yellow, flickering, noisy HD, crashes or anything of the sort.

It's a beautiful computer, that EXCEEDS my expectations.

These are the kind of posts that the doom merchants hate. Expect a response suggesting you aren't smart enough to know the difference, or have lower standards than them!
Glad to hear your computer is excellent.
I have two friends whose new iMacs have no problems either. They are DELIGHTED with their purchases.

 

[TennisandMusic]

LOL!!!!! Do you think he's lying just to make you think he's luckier than you?
Or do you think he's too stupid to notice the difference and needs your guidance?
I can just imagine you peering studiously at some 2 megapixel picture taken under flourescent lighting and from an off-center angle, and then proclaiming that YOU can see the yellow peril so it IS there whether he agrees or not.
Wake up and accept plenty of other people don't have this issue. And it's not because they are too blind to notice or can't be bothered to see it. I don't have it, many others don't have it and your daft campaign to tell us we're all color blind is pitiful.
Just exchange your machine and move on.
And if you have another bout of bad luck, try again.
And again.
Just like the way you keep asking people for photos of the test, again, and again and again, on more threads than just this one.
Sad.

I just want to see proof that they exist, period. The only thing that is sad is your insistence that these are largely good machines despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I am actually returning my machine for a refund, as the proof is out there that these are defectively produced machines. As much as I want to like it there is not a single example of a machine produced outside of week 41 that is actually correct. Therefore the onus is on people who claim their machines are perfect, and that problems are overblown, to prove their claims. That's a pretty simple idea.

I don't like being mean, or rude, but you appear to be an overly zealous and foolish Apple fanboy, and are pretty much trolling these topics. I am sharing experiences, and looking for facts and proof. You are simply on some dumb crusade that really makes no sense.

So come on, let's see these perfect iMac's people, give us people with multiple defective systems some hope that we can again buy these machines! They are a great design. Just poorly implemented. There are a few claims of perfection here, without one single shred of supporting evidence. So come on, let's see it!

 

[TennisandMusic]

These are the kind of posts that the doom merchants hate. Expect a response suggesting you aren't smart enough to know the difference, or have lower standards than them!
Glad to hear your computer is excellent.
I have two friends whose new iMacs have no problems either. They are DELIGHTED with their purchases.

This makes no sense at all. Most of us have spent over 2000 dollars on these machines. Why would anyone WANT them to be bad, or WANT to say they are bad (and what on earth is a "doom merchant")? Do you think people really like to waste time and money, just so they have the right to complain? Your thinking is truly warped, or you just have your head in the sand, not wanting to believe the truth about these things.

 

[Sir Cecil]

This makes no sense at all. Most of us have spent over 2000 dollars on these machines. Why would anyone WANT them to be bad, or WANT to say they are bad (and what on earth is a "doom merchant")? Do you think people really like to waste time and money, just so they have the right to complain? Your thinking is truly warped, or you just have your head in the sand, not wanting to believe the truth about these things.

You say in an above post "there is not a single example of a machine produced outside of week 41 that is actually correct."
This is rubbish, unless you admit to discounting other people's reports of perfectly good machines as being lies, or the mistakes of idiots.
Having a no-problem screen myself, I don't attach any creedance to your statement whatsoever. It's YOU who is on some nutty crusade – instead of focusing on getting your iMac replaced with a better one, you are determined to disbelieve anyone who says they have a fine machine and ignore their input. You also seem keen to convince all and sundry that they will inevitably be receiving faulty machines too when their orders arrive, despite recounted evidence that that is NOT always the case.
This is as close to paranoia as it gets.

 

[iamthedudeman]

I just want to see proof that they exist, period. The only thing that is sad is your insistence that these are largely good machines despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary.

I am actually returning my machine for a refund, as the proof is out there that these are defectively produced machines. As much as I want to like it there is not a single example of a machine produced outside of week 41 that is actually correct. Therefore the onus is on people who claim their machines are perfect, and that problems are overblown, to prove their claims. That's a pretty simple idea.

I don't like being mean, or rude, but you appear to be an overly zealous and foolish Apple fanboy, and are pretty much trolling these topics. I am sharing experiences, and looking for facts and proof. You are simply on some dumb crusade that really makes no sense.

So come on, let's see these perfect iMac's people, give us people with multiple defective systems some hope that we can again buy these machines! They are a great design. Just poorly implemented. There are a few claims of perfection here, without one single shred of supporting evidence. So come on, let's see it!

Well most of the 21.5's are good. The problems seem to be with the 27's. My 21.5 is perfect. But my 21.5 with the ATI was not bad HD. Such is life.

You do know the people on these forums are the lowest of the minority of the people who actually buy macs. Such as you or I.

Do you know how many late 2009 imacs are sold? Are you claiming that there are no perfect machines?

That is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read on these forums. Bar none.

Of coarse there are alot of defective machines. More than there should be. People who have a good machine are not complaining. And most on these forums have way too much OCD. Handing in there machines three or four times. I would say allot of the defects are actually in these people's heads.

Such as yourself.....................................

 

[AppleFan360]

To the OP

I've had my 21.5" for several weeks now.

I've edited HD 1080p videos and burned them to Blu-Ray (using an external burner). The editing process was flawless with no crashes and no issues.

I've done photo editing in Adobe Photoshop 8. No issues.

Internet, E-mail, iMovie, Final Cut, etc. all run perfect.

I DON'T see the yellow tinge everyone is talking about. Sure it may be there but I sure as heck don't see it.

I DON'T see the screen flicker.

Personally, I don't see a reason why you should wait. The current iMac is fine and will serve you well on most tasks. I don't know about the 27" version as I don't have one but the 21.5" IMHO works just great.

Might as well jump in now. There will ALWAYS be something better around the corner. Also, especially with Apple computers, there is ALWAYS someone that will buy your old computer to help you upgrade.

If you keep waiting for "something better", you will never own a iMac.

 

[bossxii]

Well most of the 21.5's are good. The problems seem to be with the 27's. My 21.5 is perfect. But my 21.5 with the ATI was not bad HD. Such is life.

You do know the people on these forums are the lowest of the minority of the people who actually buy macs. Such as you or I.

Do you know how many late 2009 imacs are sold? Are you claiming that there are no perfect machines?

That is one of the most ridiculous posts I have ever read on these forums. Bar none.

Of coarse there are alot of defective machines. More than there should be. People who have a good machine are not complaining. And most on these forums have way too much OCD. Handing in there machines three or four times. I would say allot of the defects are actually in these people's heads.

Such as yourself.....................................

I have to agree with you 100%, I read these types of posts and you would think ONLY the people on forums with issues buy iMacs. Apple sells 3 million or so computers every quarter and something like 1.2m are iMacs. I'll toss out a guess that less than 5% of iMac owners ever bother even reading forums because they have a perfectly functioning machine.

Anyone stating as fact that ALL 27" iMac's had issues is clueless. Yes some of them have issues, and Apple clearly moved the shipments out to correct these issues. People need to open their eye's and think outside the tiny world of forums to the overall amount of iMac's currently out there. If 50% or even 30% of the 27" iMac's were being returned and reported bad, that would be all over the local news channels. The only way most people know about the problems is from the small percentage of people that visit forums.

 

[iDocism]

You say in an above post "there is not a single example of a machine produced outside of week 41 that is actually correct."
This is rubbish, unless you admit to discounting other people's reports of perfectly good machines as being lies, or the mistakes of idiots.
Having a no-problem screen myself, I don't attach any creedance to your statement whatsoever. It's YOU who is on some nutty crusade – instead of focusing on getting your iMac replaced with a better one, you are determined to disbelieve anyone who says they have a fine machine and ignore their input. You also seem keen to convince all and sundry that they will inevitably be receiving faulty machines too when their orders arrive, despite recounted evidence that that is NOT always the case.
This is as close to paranoia as it gets.

I thought you were "disappearing from this debate" ? If anyone is on a "nutty crusade" its you, you're all over this forum telling everyone they are over reacting, seeing things, or other insulting comments. If your iMac is so perfect then I'm sure you have better things to do... whats that, you have no life? You are not convincing anyone of anything other than you're a crack-pot.

 

[nuwonda]

One of us actually owns one of the new machines. I do, therefore, feel sort of uniquely qualified to speak of its qualities and as yet non-existent dreaded sufferings.

I also owned a mid-2007 24" iMac prior to this one, the one that started the line this model updates.

Hey, you're not obligated to go out and buy a new iMac either. But do feel free to spread anti-iMac hype instead.

Problems exist for some users as they do with every new update. I'm not denying this. The problems are not, however, a product line-wide manufacturing flaw, sorry. My week 47 i7 is proof of that.

Proof for now. Wait a bit. You have an ATI. ATI fails. Some sooner some later. It is inevitable. So... are there any iMAC NVIDIA with problems?

 

[Serif]

Well I had my eyes on a new iMac and had planned to buy one when they were released. I wanted the i7 version which meant I had to wait and I'm now glad of that since it stopped me buying immediately and allows me to bide my time until Apple have had a chance to sort out a few of the problems which I guess are unavoidable on a new model as opposed to a revision of an existing one.

In the meantime I've bought one of the new mac mini servers which in terms of hardware is essentially a minor bump to a tried and tested formula and works flawlessly. I'm now looking at the iMac again.

To the people advising not to buy Rev A / version 1.0 hardware, when would you consider it sensible to buy? Only after the next minor bump is introduced, or is it just a case of waiting a few months until things have settled down with the current model?