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robeddie

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Nice work OP!

Depending on the price I'd certainly buy one :)



If that's the case why not just build yourself an ATX PC (or buy one from a reputable vendor if you need truly pro level support/quick turnaround which even Apple doesn't offer) and be done with it?

Aesthetics may not matter to you, but I guarantee you they matter to a large portion of Apple's customer base, and yes that includes a lot of the people who buy "pro" machines (whether you'd classify them as real "pros" or not).

I'm not talking about the difference between a mansion and an outhouse here - we're talking subtle differences here - about a bezel that's a couple mm less wide than the previous iteration. Do you REALLY think that makes a difference in your experience with machine?

I can see you getting ready to hunker down for a week long edit of a complicated video, stressing about how you're going to get it all together, how to add you're own flair to it, digging through shots, but then: Every once in a while leaning back in your chair with a self-satisfied look on your face, when you think to yourself 'man, this is great ... the bezel on this iMac is a little thinner than the computer I used a couple years ago'.

REALLY?!?
 

Malus120

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Jun 28, 2002
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I'm not talking about the difference between a mansion and an outhouse here - we're talking subtle differences here - about a bezel that's a couple mm less wide than the previous iteration. Do you REALLY think that makes a difference in your experience with machine?

I can see you getting ready to hunker down for a week long edit of a complicated video, stressing about how you're going to get it all together, how to add you're own flair to it, digging through shots, but then: Every once in a while leaning back in your chair with a self-satisfied look on your face, when you think to yourself 'man, this is great ... the bezel on this iMac is a little thinner than the computer I used a couple years ago'.

REALLY?!?

A couple of points.

1. I'm not saying EVERYONE cares that much, just that some people, including some pros do. In the Pro's case it may not just be they themselves who appreciate it, as other people who use/view the environment.For example if the iMac's in a living room or an area that is often shown to clients in an office, the sleeker it is, the better it blends in/ gives the client a competent high tech image.
2. The other piece of this of course, is that not everyone who buys an iMac is a pro. I've certainly seen iMacs sell on aesthetics alone (and sometimes even go on to be used in Windows sadly because the user couldn't be bothered to learn macOS).
3. I'll be honest, I loved the sleeker design of the 2012-2015 iMacs vs the pre 2012 design. While I'd be willing to trade back some extra thickness for a better GPU, I can definitely see how its a delicate balance.
4. With the iMac I'd imagine that (not an engineer, just guessing), the thickness is a bigger barrier than the bezel.
5. Smaller bezels are really nice. Now that I'm using an actual monitor I realize just how weirdly large the iMac's bezels (and chin) are.

In summery I guess I'll just say that the iMac is, and has always been, an AIO design that puts aesthetics near the top of the priority list. As someone who used to avoid iMacs like the plague before components got small/cool/low TDP enough that they could have decent components, I feel your pain. And I think a lot of the frustration people have with the iMac is the result of both Apple letting the Mac Pro languish, AND not having another desktop slotted between the two (the mythical xMac). It really forces a lot of people into the iMac, for whom, in reality, its not an ideal choice. But expecting it to be/become something its not, and never has been feels like setting yourself up for disappointment IMO
 
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HealthyFruitSalads

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iMac Pro: The 2011 27" remove optical drive, make 2 standard hard drive bays removable from right side without opening main case, put graphics cards back on mxm cards make accessible for upgrading without opening main case, continue to keep current ram layout accessible without opening main case, include 5k display, update chips. The pcie SSD boot drive could remain in the main case, not frenquently changed. Improve EFI to UEFI compatibility so new graphics cards don't need to be flashed.

That would be an iMac Pro. Many people here want an iMac pro-sumer, which is how Apple got in all this hot water with the pro crowd. Pro is upgradable modular and high performance, not necessarily the most pretty. It can be pretty but not at the expense of functional.
Or make the lcd panel edge glass sealed by magnets like the 2009-2011 have done.
 

Georgio

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Glad to see Apple finally got round to the iMac Pro, I've been banging on about the obvious gap between the iMac and Mac Pro for professional users for years.
This will finally provide some decent horsepower assuming that it is thermally sorted. No one wants a Lambo-Mac that bursts into flame on idling.
 

macduke

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Glad to see Apple finally got round to the iMac Pro, I've been banging on about the obvious gap between the iMac and Mac Pro for professional users for years.
This will finally provide some decent horsepower assuming that it is thermally sorted. No one wants a Lambo-Mac that bursts into flame on idling.
Yeah, they said that it will be faster than the current Mac Pro, but at what price? And if they can get this thing that fast, the new Mac Pro should really be something else.

As for me, all I've ever really wanted is a couple extra cores and a higher end GPU for doing design and photography work with occasional video editing and gaming (mostly in Bootcamp). So I was hoping for something around 6 cores with a "nothing crazy" desktop GPU and space gray for $3499-3999. That was my budget. The high end iMac 27" might do, and I like that it has up-gradable memory. But now I'm wondering if I should wait for the six-core (Coffee Lake?) chips to come to the iMac. I remember seeing a tremendous increase in processing power when I went from a dual-core machine to a quad-core machine, so I'd like to see more cores as apps are more optimized for that nowadays.
 
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