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Yes, but the standard 1tb comes with a very small 32gb ssd, if they decide to keep the fusion drives they should at least put back the 128gb in it.

The starting price with SSD wouldn't be ridiculous. They are currently charging 100$ to replace the 1tb fusion with a 256gb SSD and 300$ for a 512gb SSD.

256Gb is a bit too small for many though. And Apple will have price points to hit. If they did go all SSD it would potentially create a Mac Mini sized gap below them in the range... ;)
 
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My 2017 i7 iMac almost never gets loud just browsing, watching movies or playing music -- provided I use Safari. If you are using Chrome, it's much less efficient, and it's conceivable in some cases the machine is under high computational stress and you were unaware of this.

I'm using Safari as well. I don't use Chrome, and don't have it installed at all. And I am not talking about 8K videos, since I never even tried to play those. What's the point if I don't have 8K screen? :)

But my PC with Ryzen/1080Ti isn't that loud. And if I just do regular stuff, it stays dead silent. And it sits on my desk.
My iMac 27 from 2013 never got so loud on regular stuff. Neither does MBP 2017.

And CPU temps on iMac 27 with i7 are too high. I have returned my iMac and judging by other people experiences, but also on other iMacs in a place I work, that was a right decision.
 
...My iMac 27 from 2013 never got so loud on regular stuff. Neither does MBP 2017...And CPU temps on iMac 27 with i7 are too high. I have returned my iMac and judging by other people experiences, but also on other iMacs in a place I work, that was a right decision.

I have a 2012, 2013, 2015 and 2017 i7 iMac 27, a 2015 and 2016 top-spec MBP and a 10-core Vega 64 iMac Pro. Except for the iMac Pro they are all loud if pushed really hard. The 2015 MBP is the worst -- its fans spin up at the slightest touch.

I did lots of side-by-side testing of the 2013 and 2015 iMacs in FCPX on 4k H264 video, including multi-day transcoding runs. I could not tell any significant difference in the noise. The 2017 is about the same but it processes H264 video about 2x faster than the 2015 model. The iMac Pro is very quiet, almost like the trash can Mac Pro but eventually its fans will spin up if pushed long and hard enough. But this doesn't happen for normal video or transcoding work.

If your 2017 i7 iMac was significantly hotter or louder than a 2013 i7 when running the same tasks, there was something wrong with the 2017 model. That is not representative of them, so you did the right thing to return or exchange it.
 
If your 2017 i7 iMac was significantly hotter or louder than a 2013 i7 when running the same tasks, there was something wrong with the 2017 model.

I do believe 2013 would also get very loud while transcoding 4K videos. But I don't edit videos, so really, I wouldn't know. All I know is that 2013 iMac was way less noisy during regular stuff, and during my own work (Unity, Visual Studio, Parallels + Windows + .NET).

That is not representative of them

Maybe it isn't. But maybe it is. I have seen few of i7 2017, and a few posts on this forum claiming the same thing I have experienced. Maybe there are good models, and bad models. We can't say for sure. Neither of us is right here, we simply can't know for sure.
 
It is a worry for perspective buyers to hear such differences in review.

Its definitely worth waiting to see what they do with the 2018 and if its not right then jump on a 2017 before they are discontinued.

In the mean time I bought a RX 580 8GB for my 5,1 mac pro hopefully it will give it a boost in life for a little while longer.
 
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