yes my iMac does detect the Samsung as a display but then thats about as far as it all goes. if i click on any lower res setting my mac blinks and changes but the tv sort of just sits there
You're setting you imac monitor instead of the samsung. If the "gather windows" doesn't bring up a second display preferences dialog, try changing the setting as they should be for the samsung (like you have been), and then turn on mirroring (click on the monitor icon in the menu bar to enable this). Once you get same display on both screens, you should then be able to click on the monitor icon and change the resolution for the imac.
Edit: just noticed:you only get the monitor icon in the menu bar if you have "show displays in menu bar" checked in the display preferences. Anyway, you can also turn on mirroring in the arrangement tab of the display preferences.