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iMessage and iCloud integration

Ok so my question is... When you close a conversation on your Mac, the conversation history pops back up when you message that person or they message you. Will this continue to be the case? There's a "delete conversation" button which actually deletes all of the conversation history, but I wonder if pressing that on the Mac is what it takes to delete the convo history across all devices.
 
Feenician said:
Just deleted a USPS tracking SMS from my iPad and watched my phone. Took about 2 seconds but it synced and disappeared from the phone.
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Interesting ... I wonder if this also happens with Messages on High Sierra beta.

I also wonder if the sync will happen with old messages or only new ones going forward.
 
motm95 said:
Interesting ... I wonder if this also happens with Messages on High Sierra beta.

I also wonder if the sync will happen with old messages or only new ones going forward.
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I can’t try High Sierra til later in the beta cycle, if at all during the beta. I can survive without either my iPad or iPhone for a bit while I fix/revert them but the MBP is the money maker. I would certainly think it would though.

As for your last point, I deleted all my messages before I started on both. I would imagine conflict resolution between the two devices would be a nightmare for initial sync if there is no master. Someone else might be able to tell you what happened on their devices.
 
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I'm not seeing iCloud Message syncing working at all - it just says "Last Sync: Never", but even manually triggering it doesn't seem to work (Mac, iPad and iPhone).

On the Mac, trying to turn it on briefly shows "Not available"

I assumed this was just not yet ready in b1, but sounds like others may have it working already?
 
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se99jmk said:
I'm not seeing iCloud Message syncing working at all - it just says "Last Sync: Never", but even manually triggering it doesn't seem to work (Mac, iPad and iPhone).

On the Mac, trying to turn it on briefly shows "Not available"

I assumed this was just not yet ready in b1, but sounds like others may have it working already?
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I had to initiate manual sync a few times on each device before getting the first successful sync (i.e. you'll see a date and time for Last Sync". Once that was done it seems to be working well.
 
Feenician said:
I had to initiate manual sync a few times on each device before getting the first successful sync (i.e. you'll see a date and time for Last Sync". Once that was done it seems to be working well.
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Hmm.. disappointingly still can't get it to work! Have manually deleted all iMessages from all devices on iOS 11, then initiated a sync.

iPad and iPhones just say "Syncing to iCloud" indefinitely (or falls back to "Last Sync: Never").
Desktop sys that it's unavailable!

I wonder whether this may not be supported in the UK?
 

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Not working for me either, but I'm wondering if it's because I'm not actually a registered developer and hence my iCloud/AppleID isn't configured for it.
 
Online iCloud iMessage sync will probably count against iCloud storage but we wil probably get a bump to 7.5-10 grab for free with the 11 launch.
 
Here is my experience with this. Right before iOS 10.3.2 released and i was on iOS 10.3.2 beta. I restored to iOS 10.3.1 in hopes of a jailbreak coming out. When i did I could not restore from my latest backup as it was from a newer build of iOS, so I just signed in with iCloud and let it sync what it could. I left my iPad on iOS 10.3.2 beta at this point so it still had all my message conversations. Fast forward to WWDC and iOS 11 beta. Still no jailbreak so I jumped on to iOS 11 beta on both my iPhone and iPad. Seeing as how my iPad had more of my messages history I told it to iCloud sync messages first. It took a couple tries to get it to do it but finally it suceeded. Then I told my iPhone to iCloud sync messages. Same thing took a couple tries before it did it. Now I have all of my messages including sms back on my iPhone. So excited for this feature.
 
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Here is my experience with this. Right before iOS 10.3.2 released and i was on iOS 10.3.2 beta. I restored to iOS 10.3.1 in hopes of a jailbreak coming out. When i did I could not restore from my latest backup as it was from a newer build of iOS, so I just signed in with iCloud and let it sync what it could. I left my iPad on iOS 10.3.2 beta at this point so it still had all my message conversations. Fast forward to WWDC and iOS 11 beta. Still no jailbreak so I jumped on to iOS 11 beta on both my iPhone and iPad. Seeing as how my iPad had more of my messages history I told it to iCloud sync messages first. It took a couple tries to get it to do it but finally it suceeded. Then I told my iPhone to iCloud sync messages. Same thing took a couple tries before it did it. Now I have all of my messages including sms back on my iPhone. So excited for this feature.
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I had a similar result with getting iOS 11 to sync and then erasing the install on the phone and setting up as a new device. I was able to sync up to the cloud again and all my messages were back. It was a relief :)
 
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So i activated two factor authentication and successfully turned on Messages on iCloud...on my two devices

Since updating to ios11 on my 7 plus stuffed up all my messages (all messages out of order and evrytime i would reboot it would revert to the same out of order chaos) i deleted all messages...

I done this knowing that on my second iPhone (iphone 6 updated to ios11) i had ‘copies’ of my messages/threads...so i sync those successfully and confirmed that iCloud Messages was showing a size of 1.9GB

Back on my 7 plus now (which is empty of messages at this stage) i hit sync thinking that the the messages would drop....but No.....isnt the sync two-way?
 
thewhitetower said:
So i activated two factor authentication and successfully turned on Messages on iCloud...on my two devices

Since updating to ios11 on my 7 plus stuffed up all my messages (all messages out of order and evrytime i would reboot it would revert to the same out of order chaos) i deleted all messages...

I done this knowing that on my second iPhone (iphone 6 updated to ios11) i had ‘copies’ of my messages/threads...so i sync those successfully and confirmed that iCloud Messages was showing a size of 1.9GB

Back on my 7 plus now (which is empty of messages at this stage) i hit sync thinking that the the messages would drop....but No.....isnt the sync two-way?
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Don’t rely on a beta, and especially a 1st developer beta, for integrity of any kind.

As to your question, I don’t know whether sync is master/slave or distributed. I haven’t been able to find anyone reliable information on that(though I didn’t look _that_ hard)
 
If you're on iOS 11, sign out and sign back in then try syncing, that worked for me (no guarantees, I hold no responsibility for any loss of data, had to download everything again myself). Still not working on macOS for me.
I've even tried keeping both devices active and online to see if that's what's causing it to not sync to my Mac but to no avail.
Since it's end-to-end encrypted, I'd expect some issues. Maybe the keys aren't being synced correctly?
 
cswifx said:
If you're on iOS 11, sign out and sign back in then try syncing, that worked for me (no guarantees, I hold no responsibility for any loss of data, had to download everything again myself). Still not working on macOS for me.
I've even tried keeping both devices active and online to see if that's what's causing it to not sync to my Mac but to no avail.
Since it's end-to-end encrypted, I'd expect some issues. Maybe the keys aren't being synced correctly?
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Thanks ...just tried signing in/out of iCloud account and then resyncing but no dice....ahh well...will have to wait for further betas to see if this corrects itself

At least I know I have them backed up in the cloud
 
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I am still fuzzy on how this is supposed to work. I finally managed to turn on two factor notification on both my iPad and iPhone. I was able to turn on messages on icloud. Now I have no messages currently showing on my iPad. All my messages are on my phone. So does this means that once it does work and sync, I will see all my iMessages on my iPad as well?
 
lsutigerfan1976 said:
I am still fuzzy on how this is supposed to work. I finally managed to turn on two factor notification on both my iPad and iPhone. I was able to turn on messages on icloud. Now I have no messages currently showing on my iPad. All my messages are on my phone. So does this means that once it does work and sync, I will see all my iMessages on my iPad as well?
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Exactly. I found that sending a message on the device with nothing in messages and then forcing a sync helped to populate it.
 
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bwhinnen said:
Exactly. I found that sending a message on the device with nothing in messages and then forcing a sync helped to populate it.
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Thanks. It actually seems to be working for me now. When I woke up my iPad and iPhone now show the same messages. And it shows up backed up on iCloud. So the feature is now working for me. It must have synced while I had both plugged in, and was knocked out last night.
 
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