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iMessage Major Problem that Apple can't fix!
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I have sold my previous iphones before, of course always wiped them out clean and updated them to their latest software update.
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I have better things to do than to take my time to register and make up a silly story.
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Yes I think I will do this, use my main Apple ID for purchases and create a brand new one for imessage. But, what I don't understand is that I already changed my apple id to a new email and new password WITH caps and numbers in it. He still was able to reply. THEN, I also went to my imessage settings and took off the apple id so that I don't receive message through my apple id, only through my phone number.... and that still didn't fix anything, he was able to reply. The last thing to do now is to change my phone number but this is terrible, and for all I know he could have been reading my convo with my wife and other buddies since iphone 4s launch.
This is all BS. Someone read/saw the Divorcing My Wife b/c of Find my Friends, and now they have some stupid idea and what attention.
And OP dont just say, "why would I create an account just to lie". It's the internet, it's all BS.
And OP dont just say, "why would I create an account just to lie". It's the internet, it's all BS.
where in this thread? his date says oct 11....dont know about the dude in the other thread, because that guy is BS too!
I wish there was a way I can prove it but there isn't, even I showed you my phone you would only see that I sent those messages when I didn't. The other thread with the "divorcing wife" sound like a bunch of BS. But who knows, all I'm saying is that somehow, someone is able to read my imessages and apple needs to have a way to either reset everything or somehow know where those messages are coming from because right now I'm clueless. If the apple genius can't do anything about it, I will call the police. Again, I'm married with a baby, I've been a macrumors reader forever, I don't ever register for any forums (except when WoW was popular), but this imessage thing is sad. And I'm not bashing apple because I love their products, I owned every iphone and NEVER bought a pc, always owned macs. In fact, apple can release toilet paper and apple tax it and I would buy it. The only thing that I don't have is the apple tv.
I guess with any new innovation, exploits will be uncovered - and later patched.
I just looked at the Settings > Messages screen on my iPhone and I do have an option at the very top to simply turn iMessage "OFF"
In your position, I'd probably do that and ask my wife to do the same. Revert back to good old fashioned SMS and leave it at that until you learn if others are having similar issues, if there's a patch/fix etc.
I just looked at the Settings > Messages screen on my iPhone and I do have an option at the very top to simply turn iMessage "OFF"
In your position, I'd probably do that and ask my wife to do the same. Revert back to good old fashioned SMS and leave it at that until you learn if others are having similar issues, if there's a patch/fix etc.
just a thought
This was sort of mentioned before, and this would explain it.
I had an iPhone 4, and I switched to an iPhone 4S. I did not sell the iPhone 4. I simply took the SIM card out of it, and put it in the 4S.
Whenever someone sends me an iMessage to my phone number, both phones receive it. Under the iMessage settings, the old phone still has my phone number for the "receive at" settings. There is no SIM card in the phone, and I have no way to remove that phone number from the iMessage settings.
So both phones get the iMessages sent to my phone number.
This might be the case for your old phone. If you wiped the old phone and restored it to factory settings, that may not be enough unless you took the SIM card out of it before doing the restore.
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Oh there's another thing, and this is just as likely. My wife had a google voice account. She didn't use it, and Google recently notified her that she will lose the google voice account due to inactivity. She lost the number, and it was given to someone that bought a cell phone.
Her google voice account is still getting this person's SMS messages. She gets an e-mail every time this new user gets an SMS.
This was sort of mentioned before, and this would explain it.
I had an iPhone 4, and I switched to an iPhone 4S. I did not sell the iPhone 4. I simply took the SIM card out of it, and put it in the 4S.
Whenever someone sends me an iMessage to my phone number, both phones receive it. Under the iMessage settings, the old phone still has my phone number for the "receive at" settings. There is no SIM card in the phone, and I have no way to remove that phone number from the iMessage settings.
So both phones get the iMessages sent to my phone number.
This might be the case for your old phone. If you wiped the old phone and restored it to factory settings, that may not be enough unless you took the SIM card out of it before doing the restore.
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Oh there's another thing, and this is just as likely. My wife had a google voice account. She didn't use it, and Google recently notified her that she will lose the google voice account due to inactivity. She lost the number, and it was given to someone that bought a cell phone.
Her google voice account is still getting this person's SMS messages. She gets an e-mail every time this new user gets an SMS.
This is what we did now, this is a fix for my wife and myself... BUT, anyone else with an iphone like brothers and sisters and coworkers, basicaly most people that I know ALSO need to turn off their imessage when they send me a text because what they send, the other guy can read if they have the imessage on regardless of wether I have it on or off. So the fix isn't that easy. I wish there was a kill switch where I could permamnantly take off imessage from any device related to my apple id or phone number.
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WOW! this may be it right here. See, I did restore the phone, BUT I inserted my sim card back on the phone and used the phone to make phone calls and so forth that day until the guy came when I sold it, I showed him the phone worked with my sim card since he didn't have a micro sim, I took my sim card out of the phone and erased just the phone calls I made and gave it to him. Possible, he hasn't activated his phone yet so he is getting my messages through the phone number because it problaby still on the phone. Maybe changing my number will be a fix after all.
I would definitely change your phone numbers, yours and your wifes, for sure. When you are done with that, reset all of your passwords just in case.
Also, for the sake of it, I believe you. It doesn't sound like a lie to me, just sounds like you really need some help. I sincerely hope you get it worked out. That's ridiculous that anyone would be able to view your messages and reply to them that way. Whether or not you put the sim back in the phone should NOT have anything to do with it. Your number is on a new phone and the phone you sold should have someone elses new sim card in it. I agree that is absolutely bogues that anyone would be able to do anything like that!
Also, for the sake of it, I believe you. It doesn't sound like a lie to me, just sounds like you really need some help. I sincerely hope you get it worked out. That's ridiculous that anyone would be able to view your messages and reply to them that way. Whether or not you put the sim back in the phone should NOT have anything to do with it. Your number is on a new phone and the phone you sold should have someone elses new sim card in it. I agree that is absolutely bogues that anyone would be able to do anything like that!
Yep, that's almost certainly it. He didn't have a micro sim, and probably doesn't have one now.
You know what is weird though? I made a test right now with my co-worker. I took her sim card and inserted on my phone. I restarted the phone and when I went to imessages... it said, received imessages through my phone number and not my co-workers number, SO, even after I inserted a different sim card, that information cannot be changed, at least I don't know how to change it. Also, the person I sold it to said he wasn't planning on activating it until much later. Maybe he can get the messages only when he's on wifi? I have to make a test on that on my phone when I get out of work, I will take out the sim card and have my brother send me an imessage when I'm connected to wifi and see if I get the imessage through ONLY my phone number and NOT my apple id.
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WOW! this may be it right here. See, I did restore the phone, BUT I inserted my sim card back on the phone and used the phone to make phone calls and so forth that day until the guy came when I sold it, I showed him the phone worked with my sim card since he didn't have a micro sim, I took my sim card out of the phone and erased just the phone calls I made and gave it to him. Possible, he hasn't activated his phone yet so he is getting my messages through the phone number because it problaby still on the phone. Maybe changing my number will be a fix after all.[/QUOTE]
I would def look into this possibility first. Track that guy down who bought your old phone. I wouldn't hint to him that you knew what was going on. Contact your local police, hopefully you'll get an officer who is familiar with iOS and can understand what is going on. Tell the police that you believe it is the person who bought your phone. Id go with the police to find this guy and check that phone.
Also, after changing any info on your account, make sure you delete the imessage thread you had previously started and start a fresh one.
I really hope this all works out for you. Keep us posted.
WOW! this may be it right here. See, I did restore the phone, BUT I inserted my sim card back on the phone and used the phone to make phone calls and so forth that day until the guy came when I sold it, I showed him the phone worked with my sim card since he didn't have a micro sim, I took my sim card out of the phone and erased just the phone calls I made and gave it to him. Possible, he hasn't activated his phone yet so he is getting my messages through the phone number because it problaby still on the phone. Maybe changing my number will be a fix after all.[/QUOTE]
I would def look into this possibility first. Track that guy down who bought your old phone. I wouldn't hint to him that you knew what was going on. Contact your local police, hopefully you'll get an officer who is familiar with iOS and can understand what is going on. Tell the police that you believe it is the person who bought your phone. Id go with the police to find this guy and check that phone.
Also, after changing any info on your account, make sure you delete the imessage thread you had previously started and start a fresh one.
I really hope this all works out for you. Keep us posted.
Yep - to me, that's a huge bug though. I'd submit a report to Apple on it. If there's no SIM in the iPhone, iMessage shouldn't accept messages sent to the phone's number any more. Changing your number will almost certainly fix it, but you've stumbled on an issue that I'll bet will eventually bite others in the derriere too.
I suggest this having no idea how it all works or if this is even possible....
But, since this other guy's phone thinks it is your phone (according to iCloud) can you not shut off your real phone temporarily to protect it, and then use your iCloud login to wipe his phone? If you can, would it even help?
But, since this other guy's phone thinks it is your phone (according to iCloud) can you not shut off your real phone temporarily to protect it, and then use your iCloud login to wipe his phone? If you can, would it even help?