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watchthisspace

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Just too "blocky" but to each his own if they like it....just have a hard time seeing what is so great about it

Understandable, when I saw some photos next to the Galaxy S3, I realised that it is a big device.

I guess a lot of people are drawn to it because it's not another iPhone, or Android device, plus it's got some very impressive technology in it, which I hope will make it take off *fingers crossed* Too bad they haven't mentioned pricing, let alone a release date.
 

Bkasm

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Jul 27, 2010
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The Nokia Lumia 920 is 10.7mm thick which is way too thick. Nokia calls this their flagship, high-end smartphone. Yet it's over 1 mm thicker than the iPhone 4/4S which is 2 year old design. Not to mention the glossy coating (yuck) and colors (yellow, red). While I like the WP8 UI and I really like Nokia's engineering, they need to slim down a little. Also, their camera tech is about the only thing that's significantly improved versus their older Lumia devices. Yes, the CPU/GPU is better but that's not really that exciting. I'm going to pass on this, the horrid color choices and glossy coating are the big turn-offs.

Let me ask you this, do you put a case on your iPhone or other device you may use? If yes, then what are you complaining about size wise? If not, as said before this phone is thinner than the original iPhone. A phone that almost everybody agreed on at the time, was very solid and comfortable to hold/carry.

People need to get over their infatuation with thinness in phones, and quit nitpicking. There was actually an article about how many people are complaining that the iP5 is too thin.

Color wise, to each their own. But if a color spectrum from red, yellow, gray, white, and black doesn't suit your eye; then I'm not entirely sure what you're looking for. Not to mention the black and gray are rumored to be matte. As well as a tease in a Nokia video that Cyan might be available too.

i think this phone looks and feels like crap

Really? Where were you able to hold and feel this device? Please let me know so I can go check it out too. :rolleyes:
 
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SnowLeopard2008

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Let me ask you this, do you put a case on your iPhone? If yes, then what are you complaining about size wise? If not, as said before this phone is thinner than the original iPhone. A phone that almost everybody agreed on at the time, was very solid and comfortable to hold/carry.

People need to get over their infatuation with thinness in phones, and quit nitpicking. There was actually an article about how many people are complaining that the iP5 is too thin.

Color wise, to each their own. But if a color spectrum from red, yellow, gray, white, and black doesn't suit your eye; then I'm not entirely sure what you're looking for. Not to mention the black and gray are rumored to be matte. As well as a tease in a Nokia video that Cyan might be available too.

Whether I put a case or not on my phone is completely irrelevant to the engineering team at Nokia. The key in your argument is "at the time". Things change over time. I don't put a case on my iPhone 4 (waiting on my iPhone 5 to be delivered). And comparing to the first iPhone is a pretty weak argument. I mean, any phone in the last 10 years was thinner than those very first brick-shaped cellphones but that doesn't mean anything.

As for colors, I didn't know the Lumia 920 came in gray, white or black. I think I read the initial announcement (the day of their media event) as only yellow and red and both were glossy. So my mistake there, I welcome additional colors because yellow and red are disgusting in my opinion. Matte finish is even better. If a matte cyan version came out, then I'd probably get one.

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Wow it a whole mm thicker? How will we ever hold it?

BTW, that is just a smidge thinner than the first Gen iPhone and over a mm thinner than the iP3 & 3GS. Those two were 12.3 mm thick.

Did you own either of those?

I dont get the infactuation with thinness.
Everyone in here always said the iPhone felt solid because of its weight, well now it is very light and some reviewers say it feels cheap but im sure everyone in here will say it feels solid as a rock.

Comparing the Lumia 920 to the first iPhone is pretty weak. It's over 5 years old. The very first cellphones were brick sized. It doesn't mean anything.

The iPhone feels solid not because of weight alone but because of the materials used. Metal is solid. Plastic is not. Glass looks very classy. Also, the frame felt very solid. Some Android phones are made of cheap flexible plastic that doesn't feel too solid. Yes, the iPhone is light but weight alone is not why I (keyword: I) think the 4/4S felt solid.
 

SlCKB0Y

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However, the risk is so high and if Microsoft doesn't get out of their 2-3% market share with W8P, it's pretty much the end for Nokia.

^^ This. Nokia have bet everything on the success of Windows 8. Bad idea...

They have already been shafted bigtime by MS during this current relationship. Why on earth did MS announce months ago that no existing WP7 phones would be able to upgrade? Especially when they didn't already have a release date for WP8?

You can bet that wasn't good for the then-current Nokia WP7 line. Terrible in fact.

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And comparing to the first iPhone is a pretty weak argument. I mean, any phone in the last 10 years was thinner than those very first brick-shaped cellphones but that doesn't mean anything.

I think you're missing the point. They are emphasizing just how thick the new Lumia is given it's roughly the same thickness as 5 year old technology.
 

Bkasm

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Jul 27, 2010
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Whether I put a case or not on my phone is completely irrelevant to the engineering team at Nokia. The key in your argument is "at the time". Things change over time. I don't put a case on my iPhone 4 (waiting on my iPhone 5 to be delivered). And comparing to the first iPhone is a pretty weak argument. I mean, any phone in the last 10 years was thinner than those very first brick-shaped cellphones but that doesn't mean anything.

It's millimeters people. Let's not pass up a phone that can be genuinely special and shake up the market because it's a few millimeters thicker than the iP5. You won't notice after awhile, or even care for that matter. I promise.
 

SnowLeopard2008

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It's millimeters people. Let's not pass up a phone that can be genuinely special and shake up the market because it's a few millimeters thicker than the iP5. You won't notice after awhile, or even care for that matter. I promise.

So? I doubt it will shake up the market. Apart from the camera tech, there is nothing that is really special or unique to it. Faster CPU/GPU? Every new smartphone has that. Design? Same as previous. Screen? It's a huge improvement no doubt but the iPhone has had retina-class displays for 3 iterations.

In a few aspects, it's actually a step backward. Like the glossy finish. Thickness.
 

Vegastouch

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Jul 12, 2008
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Comparing the Lumia 920 to the first iPhone is pretty weak. It's over 5 years old. The very first cellphones were brick sized. It doesn't mean anything.

Its not weak. The 3 and 3GS were thicker than the first one and they still sell the 3GS. Sorry you dont like the facts but thats what they are...facts! The point is, 1 MM isnt crap. It is about as thick as an ordinary paper clip.

The iPhone feels solid not because of weight alone but because of the materials used. Metal is solid. Plastic is not. Glass looks very classy. Also, the frame felt very solid. Some Android phones are made of cheap flexible plastic that doesn't feel too solid. Yes, the iPhone is light but weight alone is not why I (keyword: I) think the 4/4S felt solid.

Thats you, and most here will say it is solid when they said a lighter weight phone feels cheap but of course now its different. And most of those Android phones are made of Polycarbonate and the flex of it is a good thing. Better to be flexible than rigid. Those break more easily....like the plastic they put on the iP3 & 3GS. That was crap plastic.

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Hmm it was a nokia and could have sworn it was out on display at the ATT. Very easily may have been mistaken but looked similar to what is posted here

Maybe I was holding the old model

Must have been because the new ones arent going to be out til November.
 

Bkasm

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Jul 27, 2010
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So? I doubt it will shake up the market. Apart from the camera tech, there is nothing that is really special or unique to it. Faster CPU/GPU? Every new smartphone has that. Design? Same as previous. Screen? It's a huge improvement no doubt but the iPhone has had retina-class displays for 3 iterations.

In a few aspects, it's actually a step backward. Like the glossy finish. Thickness.

Basically everything you said can be applied to the iPhone 5 as well. In the end it all depends how good Windows 8 is. Apple's iOS, though it works well, is starting to feel severely dated. I'm also pretty sure the screen on the Lumia will be superior to the iPhone.

As for the "steps backward." That's just a matter of personal taste. Plenty of people don't mind the gloss or the thickness.
 

SnowLeopard2008

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Jul 4, 2008
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Basically everything you said can be applied to the iPhone 5 as well. In the end it all depends how good Windows 8 is. Apple's iOS, though it works well, is starting to feel severely dated. I'm also pretty sure the screen on the Lumia will be superior to the iPhone.

True and the Lumia screen is superior on paper. Not sure about real life.
 

flameproof

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Jan 14, 2011
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Yea now. We didn't see phones have retina-class displays until after 4S.

Can't see why that plays any role whatsoever for buying a phone today.

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True and the Lumia screen is superior on paper. Not sure about real life.

I only had a Lumia 800 for testing. Compare to the iPhone 4 I didn't notice any difference. Could be that the Lumia is a bit brighter in daylight. iPhone 5 has pretty much the same screen.
 

SnowLeopard2008

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Can't see why that plays any role whatsoever for buying a phone today.

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I only had a Lumia 800 for testing. Compare to the iPhone 4 I didn't notice any difference. Could be that the Lumia is a bit brighter in daylight. iPhone 5 has pretty much the same screen.

It plays a role because the rest of the industry was playing catchup to the iPhone 4. Lumia 800 and 920 have different PPIs and panel technologies. Nokia now uses IPS instead of the disgusting AMOLED.
 

flameproof

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Jan 14, 2011
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It plays a role because the rest of the industry was playing catchup to the iPhone 4. Lumia 800 and 920 have different PPIs and panel technologies. Nokia now uses IPS instead of the disgusting AMOLED.

Screen looks good, so who cares about the technology or who had it first?

If first is important, then go for Motorola, they had already mobile phones out when Apple started in 1980 or so.
 

SnowLeopard2008

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Screen looks good, so who cares about the technology or who had it first?

If first is important, then go for Motorola, they had already mobile phones out when Apple started in 1980 or so.

IPS is vastly superior to AMOLED. And solely being first doesn't mean much. But having a retina-class display about 2 years after Apple already put one on the market isn't going to shake up the market. It's not special or unique anymore.
 

b166er

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Apr 17, 2010
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I keep hearing the 10/21 date being thrown around. I wonder if that's a preorder or an actual launch or what. I'm really looking forward to trying one of these out.
 

THE JUICEMAN

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Oct 3, 2007
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The Nokia Lumia 920 is 10.7mm thick which is way too thick. Nokia calls this their flagship, high-end smartphone. Yet it's over 1 mm thicker than the iPhone 4/4S which is 2 year old design. Not to mention the glossy coating (yuck) and colors (yellow, red). While I like the WP8 UI and I really like Nokia's engineering, they need to slim down a little. Also, their camera tech is about the only thing that's significantly improved versus their older Lumia devices. Yes, the CPU/GPU is better but that's not really that exciting. I'm going to pass on this, the horrid color choices and glossy coating are the big turn-offs.

I wish it was thinner too. However I think IMO it will be much more comfortable in the hand with its rounded back. And from what I have read the camera technology along with the witless charging is what made it thicker and heavier.

As far as gloss I would be getting black which is matte they have a grey which is matte too.
 

snow blind

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Mar 3, 2011
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IPS is vastly superior to AMOLED. And solely being first doesn't mean much. But having a retina-class display about 2 years after Apple already put one on the market isn't going to shake up the market. It's not special or unique anymore.
You realize Apple didn't engineer the screen, right? They just sourced a part before their competitors because of the industry pull they have.
 

blackfox

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I personally am really excited about the 920. It will probably be the first phone I buy unsubsidized. I really like the design, screen technology, camera technology and the 3 microphones (to record up to 140db). I could do without the yellow color (wish the cyan was still available).

What intrigues me mostly, however, are the Nokia apps. The augmented reality app, the maps/driving/public transit app, and the Nokia music app (bye, spotify). The latter even lists gigs in the area. It all seems pretty intergrated and seamless...at least in theory.

As for WP8, I am cautiously optimistic. WP7.5 is decent (I've has a windows phone for about 8 months), and WP8 seems to build on a solid idea. There is tighter intergration with windows 8, which should help app development a lot. There aren't a bunch of windows phones, but there are a bunch of PCs out there.

Personally, I don't like too many apps on my phone. This Nokia could prove to be an excellent tool - through navigation, access to music, fast web access, and great photo and video capabilities. For me, that's enough.

The new iPhone is impressive though. It isn't a flashy update, but it is a functional one (save for the maps issue). I have all mac equipment with the exception of my phone and love them. I was just curious about windows phone, and I really like where they've gone and might be headed. Your experience may vary...but competition is good for everyone.

*edit* Upon further research, perhaps Nokia music will not replace spotify/pandora - but it's nice.
 
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rillrill

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Jul 27, 2011
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did they announce a price on unsub 920's? this is probably my next device, unless google can beef up their nexus line. also, when is this hitting the US?
 

Faux Carnival

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Aug 1, 2010
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I don't understand people hating live tiles. I think live tiles are the greatest innovation in mobile device industry.

They do exactly a mobile device has to do. Give you information without going into the app. Get the phone out of your pocket and with a glimpse, you see all your texts, emails, missed calls, profile updates, weather and what not... Then put it back in your pocket. Convenient. Plus, the design is flawless. Clean, undersandable, simple.

On the other hand, it is still 73C on your app icon. Enjoy the 5th row by the way.
 

Renzatic

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On the other hand, it is still 73C on your app icon. Enjoy the 5th row by the way.

Not on my iPhone. I bought the Fahrenheit app.
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