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Griffin Elan Convertible Leather flip-top case

I just bought the leather flip top case and within seconds after closing the case my i-pod touch screen went blank. Coincidence, I think not.
 
I've been having issues with my iPod Touch... but not because of magnets.

I have this case, and I really like it because its funky. No magnets, velcro instead.

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I just bought the leather flip top case and within seconds after closing the case my i-pod touch screen went blank. Coincidence, I think not.

Are you sure you didn't put it in the case - shiny side up?

That would make a difference.....:D:D
 
Leather Flip top case

OK, I'm wrong, it's not the case. I took the ipod and put it back in the case and ran the magnets over it numerous times, no problems. I ran the magnets over it outside of the case, no problems. I kept the case and am using it now. I have no clue as to why it did it, but I can't duplicate the problem.
 
OK, I'm wrong, it's not the case. I took the ipod and put it back in the case and ran the magnets over it numerous times, no problems. I ran the magnets over it outside of the case, no problems. I kept the case and am using it now. I have no clue as to why it did it, but I can't duplicate the problem.

glad it is working ok.

maybe when you were putting into the case you pressed both buttons in some sort of strange way that confused the system.
 
If anyone has seen the mythbusters episode about the credit cards they'll know that magnets don't affect them as much as popular belief leads people to think. That being said, I took a magnet of the same exact type and through my ipod case attached it to my iPod touch. No effect whatsoever. If you ask me, I think the issue is a faulty batch of iPods, because this one's just fine. I was actually surprised nothing happened when I subjected it to such magnetic power. You may say it was a dumb move but I know a lot about magnets. I do know that these magnets are a good way to render an iPod Mini/Video/Classic hard drive completely useless.. but as for flash based equipment, you're pretty safe, definitely from the tiny magnets in those cases. My $0.02
 
MAGNETS DO Affect your IPOD TOUCH! Please read this!

Well I am sorry guys ... the the magnets DO affect the ipod touch and we have proven it. I had a brand new ipod touch... and it worked perfectly... I bought the Incipio Kickstand Case (http://www.myincipio.com/category/1_mp3_accessories.device.apple_ipod.device.1_ipod_touch_8gb_16gb/)

and after I received it in the mail and put my ipod in it ... my ipod would NOT turn on. I was of course really freaking out. I finally got it to turn on after taking it out of the case. So I played with it for awhile and all was fine... I put it back in and within 1/2 hour it did the same thing. ...

So then I thought well maybe its just my ipod and I asked my daughter if she would try her ipod in it... she gave me a look... but she said ok. Well after 10 minutes her ipod was still ok.. so she let it sit and we checked it an hour later and sure enough it would not turn on or do ANYTHING! She never had any issues until this.

I am NOT saying all cases with magnets will do this to your ipod and it does not look like it permanently hurt it. But who wants to take that risk when they are so expensive?? Not I.

I should also note that Incipio does not advertise they have magnets in the case.



If anyone has seen the mythbusters episode about the credit cards they'll know that magnets don't affect them as much as popular belief leads people to think. That being said, I took a magnet of the same exact type and through my ipod case attached it to my iPod touch. No effect whatsoever. If you ask me, I think the issue is a faulty batch of iPods, because this one's just fine. I was actually surprised nothing happened when I subjected it to such magnetic power. You may say it was a dumb move but I know a lot about magnets. I do know that these magnets are a good way to render an iPod Mini/Video/Classic hard drive completely useless.. but as for flash based equipment, you're pretty safe, definitely from the tiny magnets in those cases. My $0.02
 
Well I am sorry guys ... the the magnets DO affect the ipod touch and we have proven it. I had a brand new ipod touch... and it worked perfectly... I bought the Incipio Kickstand Case (http://www.myincipio.com/category/1_mp3_accessories.device.apple_ipod.device.1_ipod_touch_8gb_16gb/)

and after I received it in the mail and put my ipod in it ... my ipod would NOT turn on. I was of course really freaking out. I finally got it to turn on after taking it out of the case. So I played with it for awhile and all was fine... I put it back in and within 1/2 hour it did the same thing. ...

So then I thought well maybe its just my ipod and I asked my daughter if she would try her ipod in it... she gave me a look... but she said ok. Well after 10 minutes her ipod was still ok.. so she let it sit and we checked it an hour later and sure enough it would not turn on or do ANYTHING! She never had any issues until this.

I am NOT saying all cases with magnets will do this to your ipod and it does not look like it permanently hurt it. But who wants to take that risk when they are so expensive?? Not I.

I should also note that Incipio does not advertise they have magnets in the case.
Yet I got my sister that case with her iPod for her birthday in November, and all is well...
 
(i really don't want to go stronger than the electro magnets because they can erase hard drives, etc).

Most magnets have no effect on solid state hard drives, including the flash hard drive in an iPhone or Touch. I say most because theoretically a magnet could effect a flash drive but it would have to be pretty strong. The common example is that for a magnet to be powerful enough to delete data on a flash drive, the magnet would also be powerful enough to suck the iron right out of your blood.
 
JFYI,
I've had mine in a DLO Hipcase (with two magnets on bottom of flap) for about three months with NO adverse affects........
 
I purchased a Griffin Elan Convertible back in February and had the same problem (Ipod Touch locks up when in case, fine when out). So, I called Griffin and talked to a service rep (side bar: Griffin has the most amazing customer service ever: no waiting, you talk to an American who speaks English, and they are very courteous). He said that it seems that a few of their models had shipped with magnets that were too strong and cause this problem. He offered to let me send it in and they would test it and replace it. So, I sent mine in, and a couple weeks later he responded via email and said he had tested my case on their Ipod for several days, but hadn't had any trouble. Still, he said he would send me a new case which he had also tested and hadn't had any trouble.

After I got the new case -- which did seem to have weaker magnets -- I put my Ipod Touch in it and, sure enough, no trouble... but only for a few days. After several days I started having the same problem again (note that this was different than the first case, in which I had the problem immediately). The trouble has increased in frequency since then.

Based on what I've read here, and from talking to the service rep, it seems like some Touch's are sensitive to magnets and some aren't. Why that is, is beyond me, but I plan to go to my local Apple store when I get a chance to take this up with them. It kind of bothers me that my Ipod has this issue when others don't; it makes me wonder what the long term effects could be. When I find out, I'll post an update.

On a side note, I, personally, would appreciate it if those who have not had this problem not be so demeaning as some comments further up on this post have been. Just because one does not have a problem that someone else reports does not mean the problem does not exist, and putting down people for that is pointless, rude, and childish. Different Ipods are manufactured in different places and probably with different standards from factory to factory; taking an experience from one Ipod and applying it to all others is short-sighted.
 
I tried to recreate the problem the past month and it didn't crash. However, when I connected the ipod this weekend, after a few moments it stopped responding.
It only occurs when the case is closed and connection with itunes is established.
So when my ipod is connected to my pc, I keep the case open, so the magnets can't interfere.
I never had any problems with the magnets when the ipod is in use; only when connected to the pc.
 
Umm magnets, unless really powerful don't have, a long range of effect. I'm waving a pretty strong magnet across my iphone and its doing nada.

Could you put the magnet on top of the button and drop iPhone/magnet combo on the floor from about 4 ft and report back the results?

Thanks!
 
Umm magnets, unless really powerful don't have, a long range of effect. I'm waving a pretty strong magnet across my iphone and its doing nada.

I attach my iPod touch to my hip every day with a high powered magnet and nothing has happened so far... except....

I purchased a Griffin Elan Convertible back in February and had the same problem (Ipod Touch locks up when in case, fine when out). So, I called Griffin and talked to a service rep (side bar: Griffin has the most amazing customer service ever: no waiting, you talk to an American who speaks English, and they are very courteous). He said that it seems that a few of their models had shipped with magnets that were too strong and cause this problem. He offered to let me send it in and they would te... ... weaker magnets -- I put my Ipod Touch in it and, sure enough, no trouble... but only for a few days. After several days I started having the same ... ...some aren't. Why that is, is beyond me, but I plan to go to my local Apple store when I get a chance to take this up with them. It kind of bothers me that my Ipod has this issue when others don't; it makes me wonder what the long term effects could be. When I find out, I'll post an update.

On a side note, I, personally, would appreciate it if those who have not had this problem not be so demeaning as some comments further up on this post have been. Just because one does not have a problem that someone else reports does not mean the problem does not exist, and putting down people for that is pointless, rude, and childish. Different Ipods are manufactured in different places and probably with different standards from factory to factory; taking an experience from one Ipod and applying it to all others is short-sighted.

My honest opinion is that the magnet is not doing this to anyone. The only way to test this hypothesis would be to play the same song on the same ipod with teh same setup for 4 or 5 days and see if it messed up. Seems like the magnet issue is not the REAL issue.

Please dont read this comment as my lack of sympathy, because it really does suck to have a $400 gadget screw up on you.

Good luck,
Arisian
 
I've been having issues with my iPod Touch... but not because of magnets.

I have this case, and I really like it because its funky. No magnets, velcro instead.

http://ipod-touch-cases.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/ipodtouchleatherfoliocasepic1.jpg

What case is that?

Before I look like a blundering idiot, I DO know that solid state drives are far more magnet resistant than hard drives (hence why there's no magnetic iPod Classic or iPod Video cases). However, an iPod isn't just a solid state drive. There's more to it than that... maybe another device inside the iPod is malfunctioning due to the magnets.

Now my own horror story...
I too had a Griffin Convertible. Worked beautifully, looked nice, and i like the fact that its a profile case. After a few days, however, (4 to be precise) my iPod would periodically freeze in mid-app and then return to the homescreen. The device would also periodically crash. I narrowed it down to the case and, upon taking it out and restarting it, my iPod worked like a charm. Just to be sure, I put it back in, and noticed problems again. Thankfully, its still under warranty, so I may just return it. I also emailed a Griffin rep to let them know, but I'm assuming that by now they have picked up on this problem. I haven't done anything to my iPod recently besides update it with newer podcasts (I haven't even added any apps) so I'm pretty set on the magnets being, in some shape or form, a problem.

I'll let you know what Griffin tells me when they do.

Wow, that was a really fast response time.

Their response was as follows:

"I am sorry this has happened. The Griffin Elan Convertible for iPod Touch has been fully tested, both by our Quality Assurance team and by Apple, and the case has been approved for use with the iPod Touch.

We have also heard the reports of this happening, but have never been able to reproduce the issue with any of the cases customers have sent us. The conclusion seems to be that problem will only occur with specific iPod Touch's. Because this happens with your iPod Touch, a replacement Elan Convertible would probably encounter the same issue. Your case does have a one year warranty, however, and if you would like, we would be more than happy to exchange your case for any iPod Touch case we make. If you want to do this, please call us at 1-800-208-5996 and we will be glad to help you. We are open 9am-6pm CST Monday through Thursday, and 9am-5pm CST on Fridays.

Have a great day.

Whit"


This leads me to think that maybe there is some variant in an iPod component. Regardless, I'm getting a new case.
 
Magnets & the Ipod Touch

You know its really irritating for people to act as if people who had problem with magnets in cases are stupid. I have proved its SOME cases with magnets, I mean come on, no problems, get a case with magnets and your touch will not turn on.. take it out and hook it up to a computer and do a hard reset and its ok... until you try and put it in a case again and there is a problem again! Then have your daughter with a touch .. who never had a problem with her touch try it and after an hour her touch will not turn on...

IT's THE MAGNETS and U guess if you are willing to risk your $400-$500 new ipod then hey go for it.

I am NOT saying its all cases with magnets casuse the problems because the DLO's seem ok... and I just got one that has the mag that positions in the mid of the case and its ok, this was off ebay, if you want the link let me know... it really is a nice case... but I had the incipico kickstand and it did have an affect on my ipod touch. And Incipico admitted they had other complaints.. and they did not post the review I placed on this case.. what does that tell you... now they only have the brown one available (I bought the black one and its no longer sold)... I bet they will not be selling any more of these unless its redesigned.

Take this for what its worth... me and all the others saying that some magnets affect the ipod touch... but stop being so annoying and calling us liars when we have tested it with and without the magnet case... sheesh... we are NOT STUPID!
 
One more thing...
Has anyone else noticed PROLONGED effects, even after removing the iPod? My iPod crashes less, but it still crashes from time to time and won't stop till I reboot it.
 
I have the same problem!!!

My god I can't believe it. I bought a new iPod touch a couple of weeks ago & then went & downloaded the January software update & a Griffin leather case (the same as yours) for it. Then I noticed it started freezing after I'd left it in standby for a while - sometimes I flipped the lid & saw the white apple logo, just like it was rebooting in response to me opening the case. Most times it was just dead & I had to hard reboot it. Today I've been taking it around with me without the case to see if that could have been something to do with it - and it's been fine! I would never have believed it. It can only be those magnets, however unlikely it sounds. I'm going to take the case back (if I can get the packaging out of the bin) to see if I can get a refund!
 
Adding to the claims and counter claims on this one, I have used a generic Milante leather case with magnetic closure with an iPhone for a full year with no adverse effects.

Without some controlled experimentation that ensures the lockups are correlated, I must side with the camp that believes they are unrelated.

Anyone out there with multiple touch devices and the time and discipline to run a controlled experiment?
 
Most magnets have no effect on solid state hard drives, including the flash hard drive in an iPhone or Touch. I say most because theoretically a magnet could effect a flash drive but it would have to be pretty strong. The common example is that for a magnet to be powerful enough to delete data on a flash drive, the magnet would also be powerful enough to suck the iron right out of your blood.

Maybe the poster is Magneto?
 
I changed the case & now it works

Ok, I've changed my case from this one (with magnets :mad:):

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to this (without a magnet in sight :)):

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and now it's working perfectly. It was worth the extra £3 and also the grovelling in the bottom of the bin to retrieve the plastic packaging so I could take it back.

For all you doubters, the touch screen works because "Capacitive sensors behind the glass sense when the electrical field is disturbed" - http://www.ipodobserver.com/story/31942. Surely then, flapping a couple of magnets around while opening & closing the case lid will send some seriously disturbing signals to the capacitive sensors, therefore producing the screwed-up symptoms I was experiencing.

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But it causes one to wonder... would an interference with an input device really cause software crashes? Thats like me taking my mouse and smashing it with a hammer. Sure, it won't work anymore, but shouldn't the computer still be fine?

Eh I might just restore mine and take it to a genius bar somewhere :D
 
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