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PS2. How hot does your CPU get for example loading gmail or some other CPU intensive site ( max temp )?

Best regards,
voidRunner

You’ve given me more to think about — in particular on the use of different fan design.

The highest temps, whilst running on mains, I’m generally able to get the CPU; GPU Heat Pipe(1); and Skin Proximity is whenever I’m compiling or running macports upgrades. In a room averaged at 24–25°C, the highest figures I tend to see, respectively, are 67°C; 71°C; and 41°C. Sometimes, I can get the former two to peak, briefly, at 68°C and 72°C, but I have never been able to get the Skin Proximity (the sensor touching the underside of the bottom case) to exceed 42°C. This is good because it’s at higher temperatures when extended skin exposure can result in second-degree burns.

I have noticed, unsurprisingly, how all of these peak sensor temps are affected for each degree of change in room temperature (i.e., a 2°C-cooler room yields sustained peaks of 65–66°; 69–70°C; and 39°C, respectively).

Our differing goals for the dissipation of the heat sources (the CPU and GPU) are interesting: I approached the task to make having the bottom case not burn my bare legs whilst using it as a laptop. This meant getting the passive thermal dissipation to do more work. Your approach has been to improve on the active cooling by doing a slight re-design/augmentation of the fans.

(Sidebar: I think I have one of those unibody MacBook fans from a parted A1342. I should have another look at it.)
 
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bobnugget

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Digging through my (blurry) repair pics on my A1139 (first pic) and A1138 (second pic), I realize they use fans supplied by SEI, not Sunon.

Even so, comparing them next to the repair pics of the A1261 (third pic), which do use Sunon, the general construction appears to be of similar brushless, “maglev” construction, and the steps to refurbish them ought to be similar to what I described.

I imagine Delta’s fans are made to similar specifications, as the technical needs required of them by Apple would be more or less identical.
I've got one of the earliest 17" intels, and it comes with slightly more power hungry SEI fans - 5V 0.38A M9-RF1.
One of these whines - this was a fairly common fault with early intel MacBooks.
I was actually looking for a pic of the machine that I got to salvage the screen from, but sadly can't find any. The previous owner had dremelled two holes in the case under the fans for increased airflow :D
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I've got one of the earliest 17" intels, and it comes with slightly more power hungry SEI fans - 5V 0.38A M9-RF1.
One of these whines - this was a fairly common fault with early intel MacBooks.
I was actually looking for a pic of the machine that I got to salvage the screen from, but sadly can't find any. The previous owner had dremelled two holes in the case under the fans for increased airflow :D
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You might be able to eliminate the whine with some high-speed lubricating oil — the kind for lubricating power tools. Here in Canada, I’ve used this to rehabilitate SEI and Sunon fans in my MBPs and my PowerBook G4s, but any comparable type oil where you’re located really helps with brushless, magnet-based fans in our laptops:

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vddrnnr

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Hi @B S Magnet,

My fans also have a high pitched whine when rotating at higher speeds so
I think I may try your suggestion.
How/Where did you apply the lubricating oil?

Best regards,
voidRunner
 
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Hi @B S Magnet,

My fans also have a high pitched whine when rotating at higher speeds so
I think I may try your suggestion.
How/Where did you apply the lubricating oil?

Best regards,
voidRunner

When you open the fan casing, you should be able to gently pull the fan blade piece from the motor piece. After thoroughly cleaning out the spindle hole, inside the motor area (I like to use PCB foam-based swabs with a sharp tip, wetted with 99 per cent isopropyl alcohol), I add a drop of the lubricant to the spindle hole. (This can sometimes trap a tiny pocket of air inside the spindle hole, but that pocket will be pierced by re-assembly anyway.) Next, I drop in the fan blade piece (with the spindle) and give it a few gentle, manual spins, followed by (optionally) blowing air at the blades to move them).

That’s really all I do. Ever since starting to do this with the refurbishing of my laptop fan blades in late 2021, I’m finding the lubricating oil holds up remarkably well. None so far have required a re-application of oil.

One word of note, though: if you try to do this on more recent fan assemblies from Sunon (such as those for unibody MBPs and later), Sunon use some kind of proprietary design and assembly which makes removing the fan piece from the motor piece unfeasible without damaging the fan altogether. Older Sunon fans, Delta Electronics, and SAS fans, though, don’t tend to have this design.
 
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vddrnnr

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Hi @B S Magnet,

Applied the lubricant oil just now.
Fan whine has reduced a lot :)
At 2000rpm no sound / no whine at all.

Best regards,
voidRunner
 
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