Inception (Opinions please)

[Apple OC]

Jessica, your being ridiculous as well. You misinterpreted his comment as saying that formal education is worthless, just as he misinterpreted your statement as being purely condescending. And if he is so desperately in need of a reality check, then let the success or failure of his freelance work give him that.

Just by the fact you would say something like "You're going to go real far in life kid, real far", at the end of your statement right after talking about maturity shows that your being just as defensive as he is. This is a goddamn forum, you don't need to defend your qualifications to strangers.

Both of you get off your high horses.

Amen ... you nailed it ... some people just can't help themselves

 

[Messy]

I'm guessing people have said stuff about the use of type before while I know that Blue Velvet and THX1139 always seem to hit the "design nail" right on the head.

I do apologies for any repeats...

1) You are tooling, this is NOT DESIGN
2) The use of type is bad
3) Again this is TOOLING
4) Knowing how to emulate is not design and will never (hopefully) be considered as design.
5) Kerning.
6) I'm guessing this was a PSDTUTS tutorial?

@Messy I don't know where you're getting your idea of the design industry but you're wrong, very wrong. THX1139 was correct is his response, semantics aside good design knowledge can't always be self taught.

I would also recommend getting healthy dose of respect for any industry before making flippant uneducated comments about it.

No.

 

[THX1139]

No.

You should just have your mom crit your stuff - then you'll be happy.

 

[ezekielrage_99]

You should just have your mom crit your stuff - then you'll be happy.

Again Tooling ≠ Design

If it's a tutorial or upskilling in an application it's clearly not design it may have the "elements" of design, why don't people seem to understand this factor? All he's done is copied a tutorial, nothing to critique here.

I've had many of creative CVs come across my desk with the notion that if I know software I therefore know design. Taking two paracetamol does have elements of medical science but it don't make me a Doctor...

 

[ezekielrage_99]

No.

I'm sorry I mean Abduzeedo Tutorial

 

[Mutinygraphiks]

Why do people always critique by being complete douches, its unethical to take out your pent up frustrations on someones "Design". Yet instead of trying to help them out, you tear them down? Thats some great Critique skills, as being a Graphic Designer for 10+ years his work has potential, needs some work but is a great start on something, bad idea for a project piece but overall a decent scheme.

 

[THX1139]

Why do people always critique by being complete douches, its unethical to take out your pent up frustrations on someones "Design". Yet instead of trying to help them out, you tear them down? Thats some great Critique skills, as being a Graphic Designer for 10+ years his work has potential, needs some work but is a great start on something, bad idea for a project piece but overall a decent scheme.

It's because anyone who wants honest crit needs to show up without an ego and be open to suggestions. The OP had very little of either.

 

[Mac Kiwi]

Play around with the extrude nurbs a bit more......you will get a better bevel on those letters.


The phong angle could do with being reduced some as well.

 

[Messy]

You should just have your mom crit your stuff - then you'll be happy.

Urghh come on THX, ive come to respect your posts generally on the forums and now you say something like this to a 26 year old guy. I mean come on bro.

I'm sorry I mean Abduzeedo Tutorial

Nope. His technique was completely different to mine, personally i dont like using the 3D function in CS5 and prefer to use a dedicated 3D program for stuff like that.

Play around with the extrude nurbs a bit more......you will get a better bevel on those letters.


The phong angle could do with being reduced some as well.

Yea actually thought about this long after it was done, as well as extruding parts of the top of the lettering to give a bit more depth to it.



http://theaaronp.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d2ya4bk

http://theaaronp.deviantart.com/gallery/#/d35n4l5

Another example of my work.

Whilst i totally accept that there are people here who have superior knowledge than me, and that some of the stuff i say may be considered 'bad advice' im not a complete idiot, and do have, whether you choose to accept it, some talent, *some*.

Mainly the advice given in this somewhat bumpy thread has been good, the ones here who have taken the time to explain certain aspects, giving their experience, explaining aspects like Kerning etc but some people here really need to get off their internet warrior armchairs.

Is the type bad? Sure, from a professional designer point of view yea, sure, cool, for someone who works in an office, and who has had no training and self taught everything, i dont think overall its THAT bad. Seriously.

This whole thing has been over analysed and whilst some of you are giving good advice, seriously you are, and im listening, some of you need to get a life and stop jumping on the bandwagon and using any opportunity to bust someones balls.