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Lazeran

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My drive wouldn't let me partition my drive so I just took a risk and installed it over Yosemite.

SMOOTH.

Granted I have a non-retina MBP with hd4000 and never really had lag except under load in mission control... but all the animations are just faster and smoother. Mission Control layout is fantastic now. I believe it was the blur that slowed it down so much, maybe the app icons too? I'm not sure but they're both gone and it makes a big difference.

Scrolling feels faster too, it was smooth before but I think they just sped it up.

What can you say if you compare mavericks and snow yosemite?
 

lobo1978

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still ****** UI lag and low frame rate transitions on iMac 2011. Nothing new from federighi. god i hate that guy works.

Asclepio - I have analyzed your posts at Macrumors and it seems you are either very frustrated and unhappy person or a f*** paid troll.

Have a nice day!
 
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blahbrah

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Does anyone know how these are running on early 2011 13" MBPs? Debating on whether or not to sign up for the Public Preview but I'm also going into grad school so I want the snappiness to be worth stability compromises.
 
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SlCKB0Y

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Yosemite caused my laptop to use swap .... and it has 8gb. And I was just web browsing using Safari. That's something that shouldn't be defended.

So far, it hasn't happened yet with El Capitan.

I wouldn't defend that, but I would argue that isn't a typical experience from what i've seen.
 

Apple_Robert

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Does anyone know how these are running on early 2011 13" MBPs? Debating on whether or not to sign up for the Public Preview but I'm also going into grad school so I want the snappiness to be worth stability compromises.
I installed on a late 2011 13" about 1hr ago, and so far so good. Experience in Safari and the OS itself appears to be smoother, not that there were big problems prior to. Rendering of webpages is faster.
 

Michael Goff

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I wouldn't defend that, but I would argue that isn't a typical experience from what i've seen.

Weird that you have a year older laptop than me and it doesn't happen to you. I've even clean-installed Yosemite to try to get rid of it. :\ Oh well, on to 10.11 and hope that it doesn't happen.
 

SlCKB0Y

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Weird that you have a year older laptop than me and it doesn't happen to you. I've even clean-installed Yosemite to try to get rid of it. :\ Oh well, on to 10.11 and hope that it doesn't happen.

I had a 2011 Macbook Pro as well and noticed that Mavericks and Yosemite both cached a lot but never ended up with performance issues related to swapping.

Possibly something you were running had a memory leak?
 

FrancoisC

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Pretty sure current game performance won't change, as they will still use opengl. When devs make games using metal, there you'll see better results!
 
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Michael Goff

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I had a 2011 Macbook Pro as well and noticed that Mavericks and Yosemite both cached a lot but never ended up with performance issues related to swapping.

Possibly something you were running had a memory leak?

OneDrive
Safari
Sometimes Chrome
ITunes
 

mitlun

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No, its really not, you just don't understand OS X memory management.
Assuming u are talking about how Unix utilise the memory, I found that Yosemite consumed much more than previous versions. It is gonna be history 2 months after anyway.
 

smithrh

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I wouldn't defend that, but I would argue that isn't a typical experience from what i've seen.

I ran into this very scenario all the damn time, and I wasn't happy about it, nor the lectures from people who thought they knew what I was running into (but clearly did not).

Sometimes it's just no fun at all having an Apple issue most other people don't have, you get called out (incorrectly) a lot.
 

SlCKB0Y

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I ran into this very scenario all the damn time, and I wasn't happy about it, nor the lectures from people who thought they knew what I was running into (but clearly did not).

Sometimes it's just no fun at all having an Apple issue most other people don't have, you get called out (incorrectly) a lot.

I'm not saying no one had an issue, but I am saying that its not a typical experience. There are also other potential causes besides the OS.
 

Asclepio

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Asclepio - I have analyzed your posts at Macrumors and it seems you are either very frustrated and unhappy person or a f*** paid troll.

Have a nice day!


I'm unhappy and frustrated with apple products and software, this still an apple forum. Since steve jobs dead apple became a cluster**** of try hard to be cool and nothing else. Yesterday keynote was surreal.
I still using a mac with snow leopard (iMac 2011) and iPhone 4s with iOS 6 and believe me they are way way better than yosemite/el capitan and the abomination that is the current iOS, and yes i have iPhone 6 and an iMac 2014 at work to test them, but we are very close to switch.
Sales are on top because having an iPhone/apple watch is a new "relative cheap" status symbol for avarege-low working class.
 
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Itzamna

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I'm unhappy and frustrated with apple products and software, this still an apple forum. Since steve jobs dead apple became a cluster**** of try hard to be cool and nothing else. Yesterday keynote was surreal.
I still using a mac with snow leopard (iMac 2011) and iPhone 4s with iOS 6 and believe me they are way way better than yosemite/el capitan and the abomination that is the current iOS, and yes i have iPhone 6 and an iMac 2014 at work to test them, but we are very close to switch.
Sales are on top because having an iPhone/apple watch is a new "relative cheap" status symbol for avarege-low working class.


In what way are Snow Leopard and iOS 6 better than the current versions? If you prefer them, fine, it's your personal opinion, but that doesn't make them better or worse.

I could say that both current OS X and iOS are 10x better than any previous versions, it's my opinion, not a fact, and it is worth the same of your opinion.

If you have specific reason for saying that great, if not you have no valid arguments to state that. ;)
 
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iCore24

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OMG!!!! My laptop was lagging since the day I got it. 2012 15" rMBP. I reformatted 20 times. I just updated to El Capitan (not even a clean install) and my laptop is buttery smooth for the first time! Its amazing. I am so shocked. There are still some issues loading pages in Safari, but if its THIS smooth in beta 1, the full release is going to be mind blowing!!!!
 

PurrBall

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Great to hear. I also have a 2009 Imac (but base model + RAM maxed out).
Did you run Yosemite on this machine prior and how does it compare to 10.11?
Yes, I did, and 10.11 is an improvement. It's not as pleasant as it runs with 10.6, but it is quite usable with transparency on now.
 
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Asclepio

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In what way are Snow Leopard and iOS 6 better than the current versions? If you prefer them, fine, it's your personal opinion, but that doesn't make them better or worse.

I could say that both current OS X and iOS are 10x better than any previous versions, it's my opinion, not a fact, and it is worth the same of your opinion.

If you have specific reason for saying that great, if not you have no valid arguments to state that. ;)

For both OSX and iOS:

STABILITY
STABILITY and STABILITY.
Few or no Bugs
Better and intuitive UI design (yes outdated but still)
No Lags
"Smooth" "fluid" user experience. (especially on iOS side)
Rock solid 60 fps Animations.
No wi fi problems.
Way better battery life.
Better gamma settings (that doesn't kill your eyes).

I think most people don't have "old" hardware and software to compare to the new ones, so they say they are happy "because safari don't lag as much as in the previous version of yosemite"
 
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Itzamna

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For both OSX and iOS:

STABILITY
STABILITY and STABILITY.
Few or no Bugs
Better and intuitive UI design (yes outdated but still)
No Lags
"Smooth" "fluid" user experience. (especially on iOS side)
Rock solid 60 fps Animations.
No wi fi problems.
Way better battery life.
Better gamma settings (that doesn't kill your eyes).

I think most people don't have "old" hardware and software to compare to the new ones, so they say they are happy "because safari don't lag as much as in the previous version of yosemite"


Again, that's your opinion... That's not facts. ;) For example, I've never had stability problems. Be it with Leopard or Yosemite. And my battery life remained the about the same trough the OS X and iOS versions. Every point that you make can be counterargumented based on ones experience.
 
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Asclepio

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Again, that's your opinion... That's not facts. ;) For example, I've never had stability problems. Be it with Leopard or Yosemite. And my battery life remained the about the same trough the OS X and iOS versions. Every point that you make can be counterargumented based on ones experience.

wait, do you use apple products or you just stare at them?
 

Taz Mangus

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I'm unhappy and frustrated with apple products and software, this still an apple forum. Since steve jobs dead apple became a cluster**** of try hard to be cool and nothing else. Yesterday keynote was surreal.
I still using a mac with snow leopard (iMac 2011) and iPhone 4s with iOS 6 and believe me they are way way better than yosemite/el capitan and the abomination that is the current iOS, and yes i have iPhone 6 and an iMac 2014 at work to test them, but we are very close to switch.
Sales are on top because having an iPhone/apple watch is a new "relative cheap" status symbol for avarege-low working class.

I am running 10.10.3 on a 2011 iMac and Yosemite runs great on it. No UI lag and no WiFi issues. Not sure what issues you were having running Yosemite on your 2011 iMac.
 
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