No, no it doesn't. Native support is no good if a file is unable to be played back smoothly.
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No, no it doesn't. Native support is no good if a file is unable to be played back smoothly.
Bough the Pro (€ 9,99) on Apple TV 4 and connected it to my Plex Media Server (Mac mini OS X 10.10.5 server):
Forced DTS over HDMI.... but:
• Lots of lagging (un-watchable) when DTS is enabled over HDMI with some of the .MKV-movies I have.
• My DTS-audio (music) libraries cannot bee "seen". Every folder says "Nothing to see here".
• I couldn't connect over SMB to the OS X server.
Not a good start.
I'll be trying more over the weekend. If no improvement, I'll be trashing it and try the iTunes refund option here in NL.
Still waiting for VLC then.
Forced DTS over HDMI.... but:
• Lots of lagging (un-watchable) when DTS is enabled over HDMI with some of the .MKV-movies I have.
• My DTS-audio (music) libraries cannot bee "seen". Every folder says "Nothing to see here".
• I couldn't connect over SMB to the OS X server.
Not a good start.
I'll be trying more over the weekend. If no improvement, I'll be trashing it and try the iTunes refund option here in NL.
Still waiting for VLC then.
Infuse interface is very good, amazing work guys !
I'm alone but I'll do my best to keep my app as a good alternative to infuse app
). You can contact me to request beta access if you want to test this feature before the update
I'm alone but I'll do my best to keep my app as a good alternative to infuse app
My app "NAStify Player" will allow this in next update (which sould come before the end of the month
). You can contact me to request beta access if you want to test this feature before the update 
Disappointed to say the least.
- Slow
- Media within their own folders don't get thumbnails.
- DTS doesn't play correctly, just static (Anthem MRX)
As I had the chance to beta test both, I can say this: they're both similar in what they can do (i.e. play the common formats such as mp4 and mkv), but they're also similar in what they CAN'T play (mts, ts, high bitrate videos, interlaced stuff, etc.).
At this point I'm not buying either but for those interested I guess the lowest price wins.
It only passes the file unaltered if its supported by the ATV4s native player, which only supports H264 L4.1 profile videos. MPEG2s from an OTA PVR or DVD will get transcoded. Deinterlaced material, as the OP mentioned, gets transcoded, Even a Bluray using VC1 gets transcoded. Even with unlimited. So yes there is quality loss. And if you are lucky you won't get hit by the buffering issue Plex sees when it sends unlimited (but setting it to 20Mbps fixes it).
The problem isn't with Plex, its with the native player Apple uses. Infuse uses its own renderer, but I am guessing its all software decoded, nothing is offloaded to the GPU (except for maybe supported formats) hence struggling trying to transcode stuff on the fly.
DVD files being transcoded is not really a big deal when it plays back high-bitrate 1080p .mkv files without issue, which is something that Infuse doesn't do. It is not transcoding those as my Plex server is running on a very humble laptop, which wouldn't cope with the task.
Hmm, we haven't seen anything like this here. There are a few other passthrough options we're working to track down, so you may think about joining the discussion on our forum.
http://firecore.com/forum/topic/13646
You should see similar performance when using UPnP/DLNA or other options.
Not at this time, but it's something we may add in the future.
We've resolved a handful of quirks in the 4.0.1 update which will be out in the next few days. We'd love to learn a little bit more about the problematic videos if you have a chance to send us a quick note.
http://firecore.com/contact
Not yet, but it's something we'll likely add in the future.
This would be the username/password combo for your Mac - though you'll first want to ensure SMB is enabled. More info on doing this can be found here. https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204445
Also, if you're using an iCloud ID as your Mac's login, you'll need to first create a separate 'Sharing Only' account and use that username/password combo for Infuse.
Check to ensure SMB is enabled on your Mac. More details here.
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT204445
Thanks for the suggestions.
If you have a sec, would you mind sending in a few details about your videos? We're working on a fix for one specific playback issue, so it would be good to know if this covers you file(s) as well. http://firecore.com/contact
The 4.0.1 update will provide about 10x faster performance for metadata fetching and browsing.
Unfortunately, DVD files are not supported at this time, but may be added in the future.
The 4.0.1 update will provide about 10x faster performance for metadata fetching and browsing.
The 4.0.1 update will have a number of performance improvements.
Infuse supports single movie folders - can you provide a bit more info about what's in the folders?
We're also working to track down a few passthrough related issues - though they seem to be receiver specific. More info here http://firecore.com/forum/topic/13646
De-interlacing isn't supported at this time, but the other files should be working. If you have a sec to drop us a note with a few more details we'd sure appreciate it.As I had the chance to beta test both, I can say this: they're both similar in what they can do (i.e. play the common formats such as mp4 and mkv), but they're also similar in what they CAN'T play (mts, ts, high bitrate videos, interlaced stuff, etc.).
At this point I'm not buying either but for those interested I guess the lowest price wins.
http://firecore.com/contact
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Well, 95% of my videos is h.264 with 4.1, that's what is usually is used for blurays. And I haven't had any issue yet regarding buffering. I tried infuse yesterday but the navigation on plex is much better imho, especially with a split library on more than one HDD. Infuse has a great feature tho with the subtitles, that's really well done. I wish plex had this.
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There's no one magic bullet for ATV4 yet... I have hopes for MRMC though, but Ive used Kodi (or its predecessors) since the Xbox 1 version, so I might be biased.
For my ATV3 though, Plex and Plexconnect is all there is.
Thanks!
How did you purchase Pro on Apple TV - via In-App Purchase or standalone paid app? Whichever option you chose on Apple TV, you'll want to use the same on iOS in order for your purchase to transfer.I've bought the pro version on the apple tv. But now I have to pay again on my iPhone.
Great!
On iOS, you'll want to ensure you're logged in with the same Apple ID and download the free version and your Pro features should be restored automatically.
If the purchase prompt does appear, you can tap the 'Restore' button.
I bought Infuse Pro on IOS - actually bought twice - because first was in-app purchase but didn't carry over when I switched my accounts to family sharing, so I bought the Pro version. I got it to be an XBMC/Kodi alternative for IOS.
Since then, I have switched from Kodi and use Plex. Athough I don't see a use for Infuse to replace my main library I would like to use it to play files not in my main Plex library. On IOS in Infuse I disabled all metadata fetching and used list view but I see list view doesn't seem an option on the AppleTV (unless I missed something). Also seems I have to add a folder as a favorite and cannot just navigate to a share and play a file like I can in IOS (again, am I missing something?).
Since then, I have switched from Kodi and use Plex. Athough I don't see a use for Infuse to replace my main library I would like to use it to play files not in my main Plex library. On IOS in Infuse I disabled all metadata fetching and used list view but I see list view doesn't seem an option on the AppleTV (unless I missed something). Also seems I have to add a folder as a favorite and cannot just navigate to a share and play a file like I can in IOS (again, am I missing something?).
Glad to hear about the planned updates and the quick feedback here
Every movie (and television programme) is in a separate folder to allow collections of artwork, extras, etc.
To be honest, I'm only really interested in quick navigation and decent playback of MKV's directly from SMB shares, with support for fast navigation and DTS.
Anything else is perfectly provided by Plex, which has fantastic meta data maintenance, offline sync, huge multiplatform support etc etc.
I do think there is a big market though for those who don't want the type of server setup Plex requires or who want native playback of HD sound.