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This thread makes Monty Python look like a lightweight. I'm not sure what is more humorous: the original post or the extensive technical analysis of the OP.

For what it's worth, maybe there's a business opportunity out there for sound insulated RAID arrays.
 
Namjins said:
Nailed it!

http://tinyurl.com/ncth4o7
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Good one ....

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pertusis1 said:
This thread makes Monty Python look like a lightweight. I'm not sure what is more humorous: the original post or the extensive technical analysis of the OP.

For what it's worth, maybe there's a business opportunity out there for sound insulated RAID arrays.
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RAID with SSD is on its way up, as is fibre optic networking and large cloud storage. The Mac Pro is responding to what will become mainstream .... Such as shrubbery and ni ni ni
 
-hh said:
PS:

"Which part of this design isn't asking people to rethink computing?"

... well when not even Samsung is willing to copy your design ...
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Samsung is emerging on a timeline far shorter than Apple's. Currently they have recruited a team between 2010-2013 which includes some of the top talent affiliated with European HiFi equipment. They are still hiring actually and have several development labs in different locations around the world. I think they spent something close to 30M in the first year.

Safe to say that entertainment might be the core product. Differentiated by simple things like personal library support and supporting almost all digital streaming formats.
 
It's funny, because new Mac Pro is the same case, as was the first iPad.

Total revolution, that noone understand it.








;)
 
pastrychef said:
What does this have to do with:



:confused::confused:
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I think I'm going to pick random threads and posts, then quote random sentences within those posts... Then ignore what I quoted and start talking about something totally unrelated, like how awesome hotpockets are.

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pertusis1 said:
For what it's worth, maybe there's a business opportunity out there for sound insulated RAID arrays.
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I've already thought about it...simply use an old Daisy Wheel Printer sound enclosure box design (and watch your thermal management):

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...unfortunately, because there isn't much of a Daisywheel printer market anymore, the price for this product has gone up ... the ones on the above website are in the $400 range.

But that's also what Pawn Shops, eBay and Freecycle are for ;-)


-hh
 
-hh said:
I've already thought about it...simply use an old Daisy Wheel Printer sound enclosure box design (and watch your thermal management):

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...unfortunately, because there isn't much of a Daisywheel printer market anymore, the price for this product has gone up ... the ones on the above website are in the $400 range.

But that's also what Pawn Shops, eBay and Freecycle are for ;-)


-hh
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Mine is a Chobham/Kevlar armour plating kit for the 1-5,1 Mac Pro to stop small arms fire and RPG's penetrating the case while you're transcoding with Final Cut Pro. Ideal for Syrian and Afghani video professionals.
 
Gav Mack said:
Mine is a Chobham/Kevlar armour plating kit for the 1-5,1 Mac Pro to stop small arms fire and RPG's penetrating the case while you're transcoding with Final Cut Pro. Ideal for Syrian and Afghani video professionals.
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LOL!

As I recall, Chobham armor is reactive armor, i.e. it explodes. I don't think I want to be close to your Mac when it comes under fire.

Correction: I just looked it up. Chobham is composite armor. I'm getting old.
 
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MiJuConcept said:
RAID with SSD is on its way up, as is fibre optic networking and large cloud storage. The Mac Pro is responding to what will become mainstream .... Such as shrubbery and ni ni ni
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Sure, it's been just around the corner for quite a few years now .
Well, SSD RAID is of course common, but while SSD prices have fallen significantly recently, they are not anywhere near to what was predicted some years ago . And the price can go back up in a matter of ours, unlike HDD's .

Fibre optic networks are what they are, no movement towards mainstream there (nMP not equipped for that anyways), and cloud storage (web based and off-site, for xTBs) just won't happen .

But thanks for opening an (other?) account on MR just to applaud Apple and the nMP; never happened before . ;)
 
slughead said:
I think I'm going to pick random threads and posts, then quote random sentences within those posts... Then ignore what I quoted and start talking about something totally unrelated, like how awesome hotpockets are.
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I've never figured out how to evenly heat a hot pocket.

Of course I don't eat hot pockets anymore, so problem solved.

I'm sure though if you stuff a hot pocket right in the Mac Pro thermal core you could get pretty good cooking action going on there.
 
goMac said:
I've never figured out how to evenly heat a hot pocket.

Of course I don't eat hot pockets anymore, so problem solved.

I'm sure though if you stuff a hot pocket right in the Mac Pro thermal core you could get pretty good cooking action going on there.
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The trick is 50% power for twice the time. Make sure you're using their cardboard reflecty dingus which probably doesn't do anything. Also, letting it rest for a couple minutes helps the heat disperse. Use liberal amounts of Sriracha (which I hope we're all stockpiling, after the terrible news from California.
 
barmann said:
Sure, it's been just around the corner for quite a few years now .
Well, SSD RAID is of course common, but while SSD prices have fallen significantly recently, they are not anywhere near to what was predicted some years ago . And the price can go back up in a matter of ours, unlike HDD's .

Fibre optic networks are what they are, no movement towards mainstream there (nMP not equipped for that anyways), and cloud storage (web based and off-site, for xTBs) just won't happen .

But thanks for opening an (other?) account on MR just to applaud Apple and the nMP; never happened before . ;)
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The concept can have a very eclectic origin. These moments almost never get published in forums. But somewhere out there is a girl or a boy that dreams of one day designing a better technology and may want some ideas on the simplicity and complexity of starting from scratch and going in a whole new direction. John Ive said he will change the world at a very young age - why discourage that type of thinking.

Another reason why we seldom hear of concepts is that the military is the largest consumer of innovation. We all agree on that and that has been the case since records were kept.

Fast forward ten years and imagine how Apple has taken account of what will change in the lifespan of the nMP. There is no denying that people who perform specialised roles with enormous storage may feel constrained. But the era of the furniture sized, energy guzzling computer appears to have its place in the past. It is almost a contradiction but not quite.

Similarly in small markets like the UK and Australia and Singapore, the Internet comes to your house via optic cable (under construction in US and AU - so networking and data are changing radically too. Not enough to change the behaviour of the top 20% of users but enough to change the vast majority and put significant pressure on inane things such as high end NAS prices.

So that 12 year old who sees a Mac Pro for the first time this XMas will be old enough to design its replacement by the time it needs replacing. We felt inclined to share the story knowing that it would get lampooned by die-hard fans. Think Different.

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koyoot said:
It's funny, because new Mac Pro is the same case, as was the first iPad.

Total revolution, that noone understand it.


;)
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I suppose we can always come back to this in 5 years and see what happened.
 
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I appreciate the forward thinking design of the 2013 Mac Pro, but where is the apple made Thunderbolt 2 brake-out box with four HDDs or PCIe-SSDs?

Just like the Apple USB SuperDrive, which was released alongside the first MacBook Air, this would ease the transition for the next 10 years.

Let me give you some design brief /inspiration for this one :) http://goo.gl/yUBcLY
 
Foamsoup said:
I appreciate the forward thinking design of the 2013 Mac Pro, but where is the apple made Thunderbolt 2 brake-out box with four HDDs or PCIe-SSDs?

Just like the Apple USB SuperDrive, which was released alongside the first MacBook Air, this would ease the transition for the next 10 years.

Let me give you some design brief /inspiration for this one :) http://goo.gl/yUBcLY
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I was wondering the same thing. Somehow makes me wonder if the chip maker is causing issues. I heard that Panasonic just sold two of its chip factories. Unprecedented moves - I don't recall the last time Japan sold anything.

So we have to sit and wait while they fight over thunderbolt chip prices.

A friend of mine built a glass monolith like the 2001 movie monolith. He heated the oil inside with a computer and made it into a lava lamp using computer CPU heat. But speaking of monoliths. there is a prototype of a MacBook Air with no screen, no keyboard and no battery....... It was a response to having a laptop which doesn't have laptop hardware problems. It could actually fit into a box with those proportions.

Wait till you see the R2-D2 version of the nMP with stickers and legs stuck to the side.
 
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MiJuConcept said:
And not a Turing test ?
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Only in that the majority of your posts have done nothing to convince me that you are, in fact, a human (turing tests have nothing to do with markov chains, and that response is the kind of non-sequitorial thing I'd expect from a chat bot).

In fact, the majority of what you've posted reminds me of the run-on banter from SCIgen. You are not an insider, since you are not affiliated with Apple in any way. I have no idea what european hi-fi equipment has to do with anything, and that story about your buddy building a "glass monolith" (the Monoliths from 2001 and 2010 were not glass) that was filled with oil and turned into a lava lamp is somewhat absurd (and what that has to do with Macbooks, I have no idea).

I'm surprised this thread hasn't been sent to the wasteland already.

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ScottishCaptain said:
Only in that the majority of your posts have done nothing to convince me that you are, in fact, a human (turing tests have nothing to do with markov chains, and that response is the kind of non-sequitorial thing I'd expect from a chat bot).

In fact, the majority of what you've posted reminds me of the run-on banter from SCIgen. You are not an insider, since you are not affiliated with Apple in any way. I have no idea what european hi-fi equipment has to do with anything, and that story about your buddy building a "glass monolith" (the Monoliths from 2001 and 2010 were not glass) that was filled with oil and turned into a lava lamp is somewhat absurd (and what that has to do with Macbooks, I have no idea).

I'm surprised this thread hasn't been sent to the wasteland already.

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Yeah, makes you wonder. I remember some threads were very funny back before I finally joined MR. Kinda strange for a tech forum!
 
ScottishCaptain said:
Only in that the majority of your posts have done nothing to convince me that you are, in fact, a human (turing tests have nothing to do with markov chains, and that response is the kind of non-sequitorial thing I'd expect from a chat bot).

In fact, the majority of what you've posted reminds me of the run-on banter from SCIgen. You are not an insider, since you are not affiliated with Apple in any way. I have no idea what european hi-fi equipment has to do with anything, and that story about your buddy building a "glass monolith" (the Monoliths from 2001 and 2010 were not glass) that was filled with oil and turned into a lava lamp is somewhat absurd (and what that has to do with Macbooks, I have no idea).

I'm surprised this thread hasn't been sent to the wasteland already.

-SC
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I suspect it already is in a wasteland.
 
MiJuConcept said:
I suppose we can always come back to this in 5 years and see what happened.
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I suppose you didn't understanded what i was pointing at.


I RELLY do think that Mac Pro is a complete revolution. People are still strugling to understand the idea of Future computer.


Computer that is part of Internet-of-Things idea, which "Mobile Revolution" is just start.

I do understand the concernes about the design and being completely uncompatibile backwards in terms of way people thought about "workhorses". But thats part of revolution ;).
 
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