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Intel Mac's beating M1 / M1 Pro / M1 Max at their own game ....

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How the hell are Intel MAC's better at running ARM mobile apps than the M1 / M1 Pro / M1 Max machines.

And I don't buy Apple their statement that it is up to the developers because with an Intel MAC, you can pretty much run every ARM mobile app out there on Android.
 
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Ah, that old violin. I honestly don't get why anyone would care. Regardless, Apple's decision to give the app developers control over this stuff makes perfect sense to me, it's about trust and quality of user experience. As a dev, I would probably be seriously upset if my publisher suddenly decided to run my apps on platforms I never intended to support.
 
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These threads are so weird. Apple Silicon is so far ahead of x86 (good for computing in general, good for Apple in particular), and yet there's still a slice of Apple users who are determined to try and find ways to undermine that progress. Intel Macs running Android apps is so niche it's not even a thing to consider.
 
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Aggedor said:
These threads are so weird. Apple Silicon is so far ahead of x86 (good for computing in general, good for Apple in particular), and yet there's still a slice of Apple users who are determined to try and find ways to undermine that progress. Intel Macs running Android apps is so niche it's not even a thing to consider.
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And why not? People who own a M1 / M1 Pro / M1 Max probably also have iOS devices like a 12.9 M1 iPad Pro.

With my previous machines, if I was too lazy to grab my 12.9 M1 iPad Pro, I could simply access the same app from my Intel MAC by launching the Android version.

I cannot do that on my 16" M1 Max MBP.
 
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These threads are so weird. Apple Silicon is so far ahead of x86 (good for computing in general, good for Apple in particular), and yet there's still a slice of Apple users who are determined to try and find ways to undermine that progress. Intel Macs running Android apps is so niche it's not even a thing to consider.
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Fully agreed, plus those vague, clickbaity titles (like here) make it even worse.
 
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Why not? Does that Android app has weird 32-bit dependency to prevent you run it from an Android emulator?
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The tools I used are not supported for M1 (yet). Maybe in the future it will.

Apple was promoting us with the ability to run iOS apps on M1 machines. But it is very lackluster and certaintly not an improvement over what we had on Intel Mac's with Android apps.
 
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UBS28 said:
Apple was promoting us with the ability to run iOS apps on M1 machines. But it is very lackluster and certaintly not an improvement over what we had on Intel Mac's with Android apps.
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This is ultimately the developer's decision to not let you run a specific app on a Mac, and Apple is enforcing that decision to make sure macOS does not behave like a "jail-broken iOS". This makes sense for Apple and the developers, but the end result is losing (the majority of) apps the end users can run. The ability is there, and Intel Macs cannot do this.
 
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UBS28 said:
The tools I used are not supported for M1 (yet). Maybe in the future it will.
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I'm using the one comes with Android Studio. It is native and does arm64 virtualization directly(no arm to x86 emulation like we used to have on Intel Macs), therefore the performance of it is pretty well. Apps will run properly if it does not have 32-bit dependencies(otherwise it will crash due to no 32-bit execution state support in M1). The problem is that Android Studio is such a bloatware if the only useful function to you is the emulator, but it is the only one that works WELL afaik.
 
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Gnattu said:
I'm using the one comes with Android Studio. It is native and does arm64 virtualization directly(no arm to x86 emulation like we used to have on Intel Macs), therefore the performance of it is pretty well. Apps will run properly if it does not have 32-bit dependencies(otherwise it will crash due to no 32-bit execution state support in M1). The problem is that Android Studio is such a bloatware if the only useful function to you is the emulator, but it is the only one that works WELL afaik.
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Many thanks. I will try this one out and see if it works.
 
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UBS28 said:
And why not? People who own a M1 / M1 Pro / M1 Max probably also have iOS devices like a 12.9 M1 iPad Pro.

With my previous machines, if I was too lazy to grab my 12.9 M1 iPad Pro, I could simply access the same app from my Intel MAC by launching the Android version.

I cannot do that on my 16" M1 Max MBP.
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I don't understand what you are saying. I can run iOS apps on my M1 MBA.
 
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Got to be honest, I find mobile apps to be so restrictive compared to their desktop equivalents, using one on my computer is probably the last thing I'd want to do. But i guess we all have different needs and expectations.
 
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